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10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There"s never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this 'homeland of the free.')

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I"m the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a 'homeland of the free.'

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain"
All, all the stretch of these great green states"
And make America again!

#Trump2016
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
PetersSmith
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10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?
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10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
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10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.
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"The two most important days in your life is the day you were born, and the day you find out why."
~Mark Twain

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"Don't believe everything you read on the internet just because there's a picture with a quote next to it."
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10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
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10/3/2016 3:23:38 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

I mean, up until you put that hashtag at the end, it sounded a lot like a left-sympathetic poem to me. Histories of oppression, capitalist exploitation, popular uprising, etc. Those are all fairly standard talking points for "radical" left-leaners.
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10/3/2016 3:38:17 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:23:38 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

I mean, up until you put that hashtag at the end, it sounded a lot like a left-sympathetic poem to me. Histories of oppression, capitalist exploitation, popular uprising, etc. Those are all fairly standard talking points for "radical" left-leaners.

It also draws on tradition and an idealist nationalism, typical of Harlem Renaissance figures who never really followed the same 'white' left which most are familiar with. Black feminism, for example, often saw motherhood as something intensely valued because it was something which had been systematically denied to them, while the modes of feminism born among bourgeois white woman saw it as a prison to be escaped from. Above all else, it is a populist, nationalist, idealistic anti-elite poem, and in an election in which Goldman Sachs has literally banned donations to the Republican candidate from its top employees, while funding the Democratic candidate to the hilt, it's pretty clear which side the message resonates with. The fact of the matter is that both parties have abandoned the working class in all but rhetoric for a long time. Trump is a candidate who broke through an intense media firewall which had banished serious populist policies from public discussion for decades, while his parallel on the 'left' was summarily crushed beneath the neo-liberal establishment heel.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
Emmarie
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10/3/2016 3:59:56 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:38:17 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:23:38 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

I mean, up until you put that hashtag at the end, it sounded a lot like a left-sympathetic poem to me. Histories of oppression, capitalist exploitation, popular uprising, etc. Those are all fairly standard talking points for "radical" left-leaners.

It also draws on tradition and an idealist nationalism, typical of Harlem Renaissance figures who never really followed the same 'white' left which most are familiar with. Black feminism, for example, often saw motherhood as something intensely valued because it was something which had been systematically denied to them, while the modes of feminism born among bourgeois white woman saw it as a prison to be escaped from. Above all else, it is a populist, nationalist, idealistic anti-elite poem, and in an election in which Goldman Sachs has literally banned donations to the Republican candidate from its top employees, while funding the Democratic candidate to the hilt, it's pretty clear which side the message resonates with. The fact of the matter is that both parties have abandoned the working class in all but rhetoric for a long time. Trump is a candidate who broke through an intense media firewall which had banished serious populist policies from public discussion for decades, while his parallel on the 'left' was summarily crushed beneath the neo-liberal establishment heel.
+1 and great choice of the poem as well.
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10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/3/2016 5:29:47 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:23:38 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

I mean, up until you put that hashtag at the end, it sounded a lot like a left-sympathetic poem to me. Histories of oppression, capitalist exploitation, popular uprising, etc. Those are all fairly standard talking points for "radical" left-leaners.

I don't mean that you don't have a point here, just clarifying that when I say 'American Left' I mean the 'neo-liberal establishment' which represents the left politically, not the more traditional leftist policies, and only seek to point out that the only place where populist, anti-elite, anti-capitalism is punching through in meaningful ways is via Trump, who took heat during the primary for questioning the fetishization of the free market, capital gains tax rates, and the benefits of globalist policy when surrounded by a what amounts to a wage vacuum. Trump doesn't make a structural, complete critique of Capitalism, but he is breaking with orthodoxy in significant ways.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
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10/3/2016 10:14:36 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 5:29:47 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
[...] Trump doesn't make a structural, complete critique of Capitalism, but he is breaking with orthodoxy in significant ways.
No, he doesn't. In fact, Trump's only coherent message on the economy falls in line with roaring '20s Republican Calvin "the business of America is business" Coolidge, who set high tariffs on imported goods to protect American industry. Tariffs and across-the-board tax cuts do not constitute a "critique of capitalism" in any way.
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10/3/2016 12:51:27 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Why would you not give credit?
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10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.
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10/3/2016 2:16:25 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 12:51:27 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Why would you not give credit?

Because I didn't think that you guys thought so highly of me that you would assume that I wrote it, lol.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
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10/3/2016 2:18:21 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:16:25 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 12:51:27 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Why would you not give credit?

Because I didn't think that you guys thought so highly of me that you would assume that I wrote it, lol.
We don't, beta-fail.
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10/3/2016 2:32:08 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There"s never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this 'homeland of the free.')

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I"m the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a 'homeland of the free.'

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain"
All, all the stretch of these great green states"
And make America again!

#Trump2016

Clinton is so reaked with scandal and corruption that now they are focused on Trump foing something legal and within the law. Now that is rich. Lmao
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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10/3/2016 2:46:07 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 10:14:36 AM, NHN wrote:
At 10/3/2016 5:29:47 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
[...] Trump doesn't make a structural, complete critique of Capitalism, but he is breaking with orthodoxy in significant ways.
No, he doesn't. In fact, Trump's only coherent message on the economy falls in line with roaring '20s Republican Calvin "the business of America is business" Coolidge, who set high tariffs on imported goods to protect American industry. Tariffs and across-the-board tax cuts do not constitute a "critique of capitalism" in any way.

As I said, he breaks with orthodoxy, which holds that capital gains tax rates are not to be questioned, that GDP growth is grand even when the benefits accrue disproportionately to the upper classes, that immigration didn't affect native citizen unemployment. It isn't a critique of capitalism, but of an elitist status quo which is so out of touch that the National Review published an article saying that the working class should die off.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
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10/3/2016 2:52:04 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:18:21 PM, NHN wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:16:25 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 12:51:27 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Why would you not give credit?

Because I didn't think that you guys thought so highly of me that you would assume that I wrote it, lol.
We don't, beta-fail.

Lol, if you want to use dogs in rut as your explanatory model for human behavior, be my guest. Just try to avoid humping my leg in the process.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
- G. K. Chesterton -
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10/3/2016 4:35:07 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:46:07 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 10:14:36 AM, NHN wrote:
No, he doesn't. In fact, Trump's only coherent message on the economy falls in line with roaring '20s Republican Calvin "the business of America is business" Coolidge, who set high tariffs on imported goods to protect American industry. Tariffs and across-the-board tax cuts do not constitute a "critique of capitalism" in any way.
As I said, he breaks with orthodoxy, which holds that capital gains tax rates are not to be questioned, that GDP growth is grand even when the benefits accrue disproportionately to the upper classes, that immigration didn't affect native citizen unemployment.
You seem unable to distinguish between his primary and presidential campaigns, as well as the debate performance. His antics aside, Trump is no longer any different from any Republican candidate since Reagan: tax cuts, gun rights, pro-life, harsher law enforcement, Southern strategy, appoint strict constructionist/originalist Supreme Court justices, boost defense, etc. Trump just isn't very good at delivering these talking points in a debate format.

And surely you must have noticed that the Trump campaign is transforming into a "compassionate conservative" Pence candidacy. The VP debate will confirm this. What you saw as an alternative to the status quo was Trump's ability to absorb memes from the Sanders campaign ("the system/game is rigged") and turn them to his advantage. But the primary is over.

It isn't a critique of capitalism, but of an elitist status quo which is so out of touch that the National Review published an article saying that the working class should die off.
Please provide a link; I'm amused by their ludicrous justifications. National Review, The Weekly Standard, Frontpage Mag, etc. are all going out with a whimper.

Lol, if you want to use dogs in rut as your explanatory model for human behavior, be my guest. Just try to avoid humping my leg in the process.
Feel free to interpret any kind of canine libidinal investment in that "beta-fail" remark. It was directed at your persistent floridness (re: Gingrich http://latimesblogs.latimes.com...).
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10/3/2016 4:41:42 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.

A Nation supporting a unifying culture of law, order, and fairness that includes non-whites. It's 2016 man, wake up.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/3/2016 4:49:10 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.

The elites and the donkey supporters of elitists that happen to have white skin need to GTFO, and go ruin Canada or a random Eurotrash country. This country can't afford to tolerate those whites anymore.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/3/2016 9:04:53 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 4:41:42 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.

A Nation supporting a unifying culture of law, order, and fairness that includes non-whites. It's 2016 man, wake up.

You mean like the 2016 Trump says he wants Jews, not Black, to count his money or that a judge can't be impartial on a case because he is of Mexican heritage?
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10/3/2016 9:06:13 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed--
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There"s never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this 'homeland of the free.')

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek--
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean--
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I"m the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home--
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a 'homeland of the free.'

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay--
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again--
The land that never has been yet--
And yet must be--the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME--
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose--
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath--
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain"
All, all the stretch of these great green states"
And make America again!

#Trump2016

You are nothing but a deplorable. (Bronto scampers off into the weeds)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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10/4/2016 12:15:57 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/3/2016 9:04:53 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:41:42 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.

A Nation supporting a unifying culture of law, order, and fairness that includes non-whites. It's 2016 man, wake up.

You mean like the 2016 Trump says he wants Jews, not Black, to count his money or that a judge can't be impartial on a case because he is of Mexican heritage?

Mexican aint a race, and Jews are good with money.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/4/2016 12:26:09 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/4/2016 12:15:57 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 9:04:53 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:41:42 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 12:58:43 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/3/2016 4:18:31 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:07:31 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:03:05 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 3:00:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:52:59 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/3/2016 2:38:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:

Did you make this all by yourself?

Lol, no, it's a fitting poem.

Apparently made by a black man in the Harlem Renaissance. Ironic really.

Yep. Makes you sad to think how far the American left has fallen, that this sort of nationalism is now often frowned upon.

Kudos

What-evs. This poem is in direct violation of white first Nationalistic thought. It should start with:

Assimilate you non white f'ers or get out.
Assimilate or we will put our boot on your neck until you do.

A Nation supporting a unifying culture of law, order, and fairness that includes non-whites. It's 2016 man, wake up.

You mean like the 2016 Trump says he wants Jews, not Black, to count his money or that a judge can't be impartial on a case because he is of Mexican heritage?

Mexican aint a race, and Jews are good with money.

Pea pods ain't a race neither.
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10/4/2016 12:28:09 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/4/2016 12:26:09 AM, slo1 wrote:

Pea pods ain't a race neither.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is that you knocked out on the ground?
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/4/2016 3:38:40 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/4/2016 12:28:09 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/4/2016 12:26:09 AM, slo1 wrote:

Pea pods ain't a race neither.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is that you knocked out on the ground?

Thanks for sharing criminal activity on YouTube, but I fail to see how it relates to the poem being directly against you white first policies.
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10/4/2016 4:00:00 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/4/2016 3:38:40 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/4/2016 12:28:09 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/4/2016 12:26:09 AM, slo1 wrote:

Pea pods ain't a race neither.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is that you knocked out on the ground?

Thanks for sharing criminal activity on YouTube, but I fail to see how it relates to the poem being directly against you white first policies.

Because it's about culture not color, but that doesn't resolve your dissonance, so continue to play that card till the deck runs out.
I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
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10/4/2016 1:01:09 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 10/4/2016 4:00:00 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/4/2016 3:38:40 AM, slo1 wrote:
At 10/4/2016 12:28:09 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 10/4/2016 12:26:09 AM, slo1 wrote:

Pea pods ain't a race neither.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is that you knocked out on the ground?

Thanks for sharing criminal activity on YouTube, but I fail to see how it relates to the poem being directly against you white first policies.

Because it's about culture not color, but that doesn't resolve your dissonance, so continue to play that card till the deck runs out.

Keep telling yourself that the US and Trump is colorblind and focused on honoring the multitudes of cultures. Where is this sudden push for multiculturalism from you and skep coming from?