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Fernyx
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10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM
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After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.
kevin24018
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10/4/2016 5:44:11 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

the democrats don't have much to recover from....they have accepted a criminal (bad one at that) as their leader,
3rd party depends, Johnson was a has been that never was, though I like Austin Petersen from the little I knew about him, 3rd party is basically a bridge between the 2, however when one is closer to the middle they really can't show how different they are generally speaking, so it's very difficult for 3rd party being a kind of new thing to gain any attention and traction, especially if the left or right look more moderate, since those are mainstream they will normally get the support over the 3rd.
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10/4/2016 5:44:14 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

I think the Dems will recover a whole lot faster. The GOP will have to have a massive change in the next 10 years or it would have to disolve.
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Artaxerxes
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10/4/2016 5:48:00 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.
I don't particularly believe that the Democrats are really in need of recovery. They selected the established candidate for their nominee, so nothing too strange is occurring. The Republicans are being reformed by Trump, for better or worse. How well this reform will be received or how long it will take is beyond measure currently. The Democrats would be experiencing the same thing had they selected Bernie.
Stymie13
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10/4/2016 5:59:09 PM
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To build on Kevin's thoughtful response... a third party may grow to replace either/or in time. Momentum and disgust is growing amongst the constituency. It won't be this election cycle and probably not the next. However the frustration is passing tipping points.
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10/4/2016 6:08:04 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

I think it depends upon who wins. If Hillary, the hatred for her will heal all rifts in the Republican party. That would be a boon for the right wing media.

If Trump wins, I think it will further highlight the schism in the party, unless the establishment can keep check on Trump via Pence.

I will say this, I see better opportunity for the Bernie revolution to incorporate into the Democratic party and move it left than the Trump movement fundamentally changing the Republican party. The schism in the Republican party predates Trump. I see him more of an anomaly that joined many together on immigration and law and order, which allowed the social and trade policy move to left to be ignored.

As far as 3rd party, I think the 7-10 percent support for Libertarian is an anomaly due to the Trump and Bernie effect.

It would have been much better to see Trump run as 3rd party and force a case where there is not an electorial college majority thus force the House to vote for President. That would have created more viability for 3rd party and it would have done more to raise anti establishment passions..
BrendanD19
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10/4/2016 6:12:04 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

I think the democrats will recover quicker since I suspect they will win more down ticket races. Already a number of GOP officeholders have endorsed or joined the Libertarians. The Bernie Sanders campaign has also allowed for growth of progressive third parties like the Greens and Socialist Alternative.
Fernyx
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10/4/2016 9:17:34 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:48:00 PM, Artaxerxes wrote:
At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.
I don't particularly believe that the Democrats are really in need of recovery. They selected the established candidate for their nominee, so nothing too strange is occurring. The Republicans are being reformed by Trump, for better or worse. How well this reform will be received or how long it will take is beyond measure currently. The Democrats would be experiencing the same thing had they selected Bernie.

But they also had the scandals with the DNC leaks and a push for more radical beliefs with the entrance of Sanders.
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10/4/2016 9:22:26 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

The Democrats. The media will spin the narrative in whatever direction the next liberal administration needs the false spint to go. Since most people are uninformed, they'll believe whatever the liberal plantation czars tell them to believe, like that Hillary dorlesn't have Parkinsons.
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Genius_Intellect
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10/4/2016 10:00:10 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

I doubt either party will recover. Trump and Hillary trashed their respective parties to secure their nominations. The Republicans are buffoons and the Democrats are corrupt, and they can't hide it anymore.
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10/4/2016 10:18:33 PM
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At 10/4/2016 5:44:11 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/4/2016 5:35:32 PM, Fernyx wrote:
After this election which party (democrat and republican) will recover quicker. Also will this create growth for 3rd party candidates.

the democrats don't have much to recover from....they have accepted a criminal (bad one at that) as their leader,
3rd party depends, Johnson was a has been that never was, though I like Austin Petersen from the little I knew about him, 3rd party is basically a bridge between the 2, however when one is closer to the middle they really can't show how different they are generally speaking, so it's very difficult for 3rd party being a kind of new thing to gain any attention and traction, especially if the left or right look more moderate, since those are mainstream they will normally get the support over the 3rd.

Because most Bernie supporters will still vote Clinton, I'd say the GOP will do the most changing and the DEMs the least changing. Expect more candidates like Hillary.