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10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this
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10/4/2016 8:41:02 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

Blm was designed with the full intent of dividing your country. If you study it for a godd 15 minutes, it reaks of muruna.
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10/4/2016 8:46:53 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
http://brennerbrief.com...

http://www.islam-watch.org...

http://www.danielpipes.org...

"Black lives matter" is simply a front for radical Islam per muruna and taqiya. These aren't typically the descendents of American slavery. These are the descendents of Islam.

BLM was created to divide blacks against blacks and blacks against whites in an effort to divide America and send it into confusion per a group of Islamic techniques call muruna, tawriya, taqiya, and kitman. Your country took the bait.

http://truthuncensored.net...

http://vladtepesblog.com...

http://m.huffpost.com...

http://m.townhall.com...

http://shoebat.com...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com...

http://www.truthrevolt.org...

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://usawatchdog.com...

http://www.dailywire.com...

https://adarapress.com...

http://m.washingtontimes.com...

http://www.thetribunepapers.com...

http://freedomoutpost.com...

So...then you look at African Americans that you know are your normal African American who's fathers were actual products of American slavery, and they think BLM is nuts, get attacked by BLM, or are "concerned" about its tactics, or are labeled names.

http://www.ibtimes.com...

http://hypeline.org...

https://m.youtube.com...

http://bluelivesmatter.blue...

http://www.newsbusters.org...

http://www.salon.com...

Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim
QUOTE:

"What the West does not understand about Islamism is that Jihad is very systematic. It has stages. If Muslims have the upper hand, then Jihad is waged by force. If Muslims do not have the upper hand, then Jihad is waged through financial and political means. Since Muslims do not have the upper hand in America or Europe, they talk about peace in front of you while supporting Hamas and Hezbollah in the back room. The whole idea of Islam being a peaceful religion emanates from that silent stage of Jihad."

"to this very day, Muslims do not view peace treaties in the same way that most people understand a "peace-treaty." To the Muslim mind, treaties are not binding agreements, but rather opportunities to grow stronger or buy time or to appear peaceful while preparing for war. But make no mistake, making peace treaties with the infidels simply for the sake of peace is never the ultimate goal. The only goal of Islam is victory over the whole world."

https://www.goodreads.com...

http://shoebat.com...
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Mikal
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10/4/2016 8:47:06 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:41:02 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

Blm was designed with the full intent of dividing your country. If you study it for a godd 15 minutes, it reaks of muruna.

I think you are trying to say a *part* of the movement is disruptive and can be perceived as divisive. The movement itself was not designed to be divisive, but was designed to push for and achieve equal rights.
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10/4/2016 8:47:40 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

I'm not sure what you mean by proper training for the police, and not to be an insult but much like blm you keep mixing racism and cops, so which is the problem since black cops were part of a few of these "controversies" youtube search Ben Shapiro Black Lives Matter and watch a couple of those, he pretty much sums it all up pretty well.
you call it false narratives, but they are in fact lies, so let's call it what it really is.
Mikal
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10/4/2016 8:54:26 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:47:40 PM, kevin24018 wrote:

you call it false narratives, but they are in fact lies, so let's call it what it really is.

It's a euphemism in a sense. A lie is a direct lie, but you can lie unintentionally and create false facts. I think the narrative that cops hate blacks is inflated by the media. It's not the black community yelling it (other than a minority of them). They see the media killing cops, assume cops hate them, and blah blah.

It's a endless cycle that is caused by inherent racism.
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10/4/2016 9:06:02 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:47:06 PM, Mikal wrote:
At 10/4/2016 8:41:02 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

Blm was designed with the full intent of dividing your country. If you study it for a godd 15 minutes, it reaks of muruna.

I think you are trying to say a *part* of the movement is disruptive and can be perceived as divisive. The movement itself was not designed to be divisive, but was designed to push for and achieve equal rights.

Yeah. It looks it.
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10/4/2016 9:27:57 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

I think you have framed it up very well. The Movement for Black Lives Matters went way too far with their platform they published. It is unfortunate as it is very far left and just detracts from key issues such as the impacts from subconscious bias and criminal justice reform.

It seems to me that both sides under appreciate inherent bias and it's role in the mess.
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10/5/2016 12:24:05 AM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 9:27:57 PM, slo1 wrote:

I think you have framed it up very well. The Movement for Black Lives Matters went way too far with their platform they published. It is unfortunate as it is very far left and just detracts from key issues such as the impacts from subconscious bias and criminal justice reform.

It seems to me that both sides under appreciate inherent bias and it's role in the mess.

This post is out of your character...did you get hacked?
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10/5/2016 11:24:38 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

If a white group acted and did what blm has done they'd be?

1)Labeled racists and a hate group.

2)Tossed out of liberal Political rallies rather than given the mic.

3)Not pandered to in order to whore for votes.
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10/6/2016 2:50:16 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

Can we just stop making this a black vs white thing? You wouldn't think it, but its making America more racist. Thank you.
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10/6/2016 3:59:56 PM
Posted: 2 months ago
At 10/6/2016 2:50:16 PM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 10/4/2016 8:18:53 PM, Mikal wrote:
I'm still fundamentally at odds with this movement because of the continuous false narrative that is being paraded around as an aspirational religious gospel for the black community. The narrative that "cops hate blacks" is not true. I am however quite sure that blacks are targeted at a higher rate per capita than whites or other races as far as incarceration, arrests, and shootings. This is not hate inspired by any means and goes back to proper training and inherent bias and racism. How the media portrays African American culture, and how people perceive it plays a huge part in this. If you are walking down an alley at night and you see a white teen, and then walk down another alley and see a burly black man, more people in other races are often more scared of the burly black man.

"Stanford psychology researchers Rebecca Hetey and Jennifer Eberhardt found that when white people were told about these racial disparities, they reported being more afraid of crime and more likely to support the kinds of punitive policies that exacerbate the racial disparities."



In short, the problem is causing the problem. When blacks are in jail at 3 times the rates of Caucasians it gives rise to another false narrative, and that is blacks are inherently more violent. Now I'm not just basing this off arrests or who is in jail, I'm quite sure blacks are objectively more violent than whites on a per capita scale. This can be based on poverty, cultural upbringing, treatment of the culture in general, etc. There are a lot of reasons that the African American community can be violent. They feel like they are being mistreated (which they have been and still are) and that leads to more crime. It also leads to segregation and poverty which in turn causes more crime.

I said all that to point out the issue. The issue behind this entire "cops hate blacks" thing, is training and perception. When you hear all these stats about how barbaric "blacks" are, then you are far more likely to react in a way where you feel as if you are protecting yourself. The reality is a white can kill just as many people as a burly black man, and everyone sees in color, not motivation.

Police need to be retrained in the art of their duty, which is to serve. You sign up to serve and risk your life. You risk your life for all races whether it be White, Black , Asian, etc. Your duty is to make sure citizens come home alive before you do. Don't be so quick to pull a trigger based on the preconceptions

Both sides are creating false narratives

Cops don't hate Blacks, they are just inherently biased like everyone else. They need to be trained to overcome that and serve the way they are meant to serve. They need to learn that their lives come after the lives of the people they serve. It's a military type force that is on our own soil, that however does not change the principal behind service which is to serve before all else.

Blacks are objectively more violent because of a variety of reasons, all which stem from segregation and racism. We as a country can change that when we stop judging based on skin. Once we are able to fix the false narrative, that can change an nations percpetion which is the route cause of all of this

Can we just stop making this a black vs white thing? You wouldn't think it, but its making America more racist. Thank you.

they started it! j/k

it is making thing worse, not sure who could show that it's not, it at the very least isn't making it better, though they try to justify and claim that it is.