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10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with
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10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.
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10/11/2016 5:00:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

You should condone what he did--they were not only blocking a roadway, they threatened him multiple times. If they didn't want to get run over, they shouldn't have stood in the road and certainly shouldn't have threatened a driver.
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10/11/2016 5:02:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 5:00:48 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

You should condone what he did--they were not only blocking a roadway, they threatened him multiple times. If they didn't want to get run over, they shouldn't have stood in the road and certainly shouldn't have threatened a driver.

True. I'm not sure of what happened in the protest, were they illegally blocking the streets? If so, then I agree he was well within his rights.
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10/11/2016 5:19:57 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



Here's a news story on the issue:
http://www.kolotv.com...

Apparently the driver is being cooperative with the police
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10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...
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10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.
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10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."
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10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged
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10/11/2016 6:05:11 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged

he was just one of them and one of them was actually a cop, though I think he just stood by and watched and didn't do anything, so yeah I want a vehicle with spikes and stuff like the Mad Max movies!
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10/11/2016 6:07:59 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 6:05:11 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged

he was just one of them and one of them was actually a cop, though I think he just stood by and watched and didn't do anything, so yeah I want a vehicle with spikes and stuff like the Mad Max movies!

Everybody who participates in a mob beating like this should be publicly hanged.

Imagine the outpouring of sympathy for the condemned if something like this happened. "HE ONLY SMASHED HIS HEAD AGAINST THE CONCRETE THREE TIMES, HE DIDNT KILL NOBODY!" Where would the sympathy for the victims be?

Such a sick society. Burn it down.
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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10/11/2016 6:08:53 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 6:05:11 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged

he was just one of them and one of them was actually a cop, though I think he just stood by and watched and didn't do anything, so yeah I want a vehicle with spikes and stuff like the Mad Max movies!

With giant speakers and a doof warrior?

https://www.youtube.com...
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10/11/2016 6:19:52 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 6:07:59 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:05:11 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged

he was just one of them and one of them was actually a cop, though I think he just stood by and watched and didn't do anything, so yeah I want a vehicle with spikes and stuff like the Mad Max movies!

Everybody who participates in a mob beating like this should be publicly hanged.

Imagine the outpouring of sympathy for the condemned if something like this happened. "HE ONLY SMASHED HIS HEAD AGAINST THE CONCRETE THREE TIMES, HE DIDNT KILL NOBODY!" Where would the sympathy for the victims be?

Such a sick society. Burn it down.

agreed, there was damage done to that whole family, imagine the trauma of the wife and child, they never fill the full sentence but only a fraction of it, so why was it the minimum for this guy, cause he cried, cause he was black?
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10/11/2016 6:21:29 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 6:08:53 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:05:11 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:58:34 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:52:28 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:43:48 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 5:41:45 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:59:32 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
"I'll tear you out of your car you little fvck"

While I don't condone what this guy did... I can't blame him. The protesters literally said they were going to hurt him and were surrounding his car.

after what had happened to this guy, yeah I'd run over someone who threatened me.
http://nypost.com...

I remember that incident.

wonder if he bought a gun after that, here's some justice for everyone "Justice Maxwell Wiley sentenced Robert Sims to 3"/S22; years for attempted gang assault, the minimum allowed under law."

He should've been hanged

he was just one of them and one of them was actually a cop, though I think he just stood by and watched and didn't do anything, so yeah I want a vehicle with spikes and stuff like the Mad Max movies!

With giant speakers and a doof warrior?

https://www.youtube.com...

lol who can make such a crappy remake and think that it's good, wow
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10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.
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10/11/2016 7:04:01 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.

Then don't block a roadway and threaten drivers
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10/11/2016 7:06:17 PM
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At 10/11/2016 7:04:01 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.

Then don't block a roadway and threaten drivers

I don't threaten anyone, but sometimes we have a permit to block the street.
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10/11/2016 7:23:53 PM
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At 10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.

You protest?
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10/11/2016 7:36:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 7:06:17 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 7:04:01 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.

Then don't block a roadway and threaten drivers

I don't threaten anyone, but sometimes we have a permit to block the street.

you mean they close the road so you can protest, you can't just stand and block traffic legally right? I would find it very difficult to believe you can get a permit to shut down traffic like that.
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10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM
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Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?
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10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM
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At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.
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10/11/2016 8:25:03 PM
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At 10/11/2016 7:06:17 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 7:04:01 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 6:46:03 PM, BrendanD19 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



I would much rather that I not be run over by a car when I am protesting.

Then don't block a roadway and threaten drivers

I don't threaten anyone, but sometimes we have a permit to block the street.

There is a large difference between being legally granted a permit to protest and deciding that you have the right to shut down a major road.

If there are legal protests on roadways they are typically on under-utilized roads that are cordoned off by the police in advance. You are never going to be legally allowed to shut down a major highway, and if someone gets hit by a car trying to do that it is richly deserved.
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10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM
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At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.

lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved

nice sig
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10/11/2016 8:34:02 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.

lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved

nice sig

oh good I thought it was just me, yeah I didn't see that at all, if they did come back that would have been the very first part of the article(s)
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10/11/2016 8:37:01 PM
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At 10/11/2016 8:34:02 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.

lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved

nice sig

oh good I thought it was just me, yeah I didn't see that at all, if they did come back that would have been the very first part of the article(s)

It's possible that PCP is right and it just wasn't in that article.

If he's right, it changes nothing. The driver has the right to drive on a public roadway and they do not have the right to block it. They certainly have no grounds for complaint when they threaten to drag him out of his car and beat him, as protestors have been known to do. Sorry that he didn't want to end up like this guy
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10/11/2016 8:50:00 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 8:37:01 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:34:02 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.

lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved

nice sig

oh good I thought it was just me, yeah I didn't see that at all, if they did come back that would have been the very first part of the article(s)

It's possible that PCP is right and it just wasn't in that article.

If he's right, it changes nothing. The driver has the right to drive on a public roadway and they do not have the right to block it. They certainly have no grounds for complaint when they threaten to drag him out of his car and beat him, as protestors have been known to do. Sorry that he didn't want to end up like this guy



yeah and some of those nuts were grabbing the truck and being dragged by it, why, to ask him for his insurance? to me that proves their violent intentions.
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10/11/2016 8:53:54 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

It's far more wrong to threaten lives. The consequences are much more harsh for that.
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10/11/2016 8:57:27 PM
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At 10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.


It's in the video is the article. He drove by at first shouting profanities. Then he comes back 4 minutes later.

lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved


I'm not saying their right to do so, and obviously it's condemnable, but coming back to a crowd you successfully avoided the first time only to provoke them some more...not the best idea. And you lose your "self-defense" defense in doing so. It's pretty obvious guy was looking for a fight, just as the protestors were.

I don't get to run my car through protestors merely for blocking the street, no matter how annoying. I don't get to claim self defense if I avoid them, come back, provoke them with a truck, etc.

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10/11/2016 9:07:59 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/11/2016 8:57:27 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:28:10 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:23:51 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 10/11/2016 8:13:21 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Isn't this the guy who drove by 4 minutes earlier threatening the protestors, then came back around and tried to go through them?

Actually it is.

http://www.usatoday.com...

Dude drove by earlier and then *came back* for some more. So it's the not the case that he "literally" did nothing wrong.

Where does it say that? I can't find it in the article. I see video evidence of the group threatening him multiple times before he left. He also told them to get out of the way, which they didn't.


It's in the video is the article. He drove by at first shouting profanities. Then he comes back 4 minutes later.

Now I see it. The video completely vindicates him of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

He yells at them driving past while they're still on the sidewalk. No wrongdoing. Then he comes back after they have blocked the roadway. He honks to warn them that he intends to drive through AS IS HIS RIGHT, and THEY approach HIM and begin threatening him and hitting his truck. With about 50 seconds left to go you see somebody attempt to open his door. What do you think would've happened if his door was unlocked?



lol they're blocking a roadway, threatening the driver, and refusing to move aside to let him go peacefully. If they get hit by a car, it's richly deserved


I'm not saying their right to do so, and obviously it's condemnable, but coming back to a crowd you successfully avoided the first time only to provoke them some more...not the best idea. And you lose your "self-defense" defense in doing so. It's pretty obvious guy was looking for a fight, just as the protestors were.

You do not lose your self defense argument. First of all, there isn't any evidence that he came back to provoke them into a violent. Perhaps he turned around because he wanted to see the protest again--I would certainly want to do this. But at that point they're blocking the roadway and he can't get through.

It doesn't matter if he drove by to yell at them again. He has the right to do that. He has the right to drive on a damn road. They are the ones who chose to block the road, threaten someone trying to get through, and damage his car.


I don't get to run my car through protestors merely for blocking the street, no matter how annoying. I don't get to claim self defense if I avoid them, come back, provoke them with a truck, etc.


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10/11/2016 9:48:18 PM
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At 10/11/2016 4:45:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
The driver in this video did literally nothing wrong.

Actually, scratch that, there was one instance of wrongdoing. He stopped to begin with



To me, in this situation, "Literally Nothing wrong" would be that the Driver pulled up, couldn't go through, started reversing to go around, was attacked, and panicked while trying to avoid either him or the passenger being injured; and pulled through.

Looking at the Video, however, this doesn't appear to be what happened; although neither you, nor I can tell what happened prior to this.

From the start, it appears that this guy wants to get through; regardless of whether it's an illegal protest or not; the right course of action, frustrating as it would be, is to turn around and go the other way. Indeed, this is what some of the protesters right at the start are shouting to him.

While I reserve judgement, as it appears things started prior to filming, I suspect the driver instead of acting like this, is instead attempting to drive through. This fits in the general pattern of the drivers actions at the start of the video.

After this shouting from the protestors, and before any threats are issued to the driver, he revs the engine and pulled forward. While I can't tell what is in the Drivers head, the most obvious reason for this abnormal driving behavior, is that he is trying to intimidate the protestors into moving out of the way so he can get through.

Don't get me wrong, if they are illegally blocking the road; the protestors are wrong, but you wait for the police to clear them out, or go around; it is not acceptable to try and intimidate or force your way through with a car, because slowing down your day is not a justification for actions that can potentially injure someone, like it or not.

So, given that you have pedestrian protestors, blocking the road; you have a driver in a midsize truck intentionally trying to intimidate pedestrians, and trying to force his way through with people in front of them.

As a cyclist, one that does his best to be respectful and accommodating for drivers that may be stuck behind me, I have had impatient trucks behind me that have done the same thing to me; for the same reasons. While that situation is slightly different, the noise, seeing a truck lurch towards you while you are standing (or cycling) in front of it scares the sh*t out of you, and while I'm British, and we don't do that sort of thing, a combination of the scare, and understanding that the person in the truck trying to bully you, and risking injuring you, REALLY gets you angry.

The correct action from the protestors, is probably to let him through to avoid injury; but given what just happened; potentially in addition to what happened before the filming (potentially the reason why the filming started in the first place); I can completely understand the protestors at that point getting angry. The drivers actions, understandably escalated the situation.

That's when the protestor on the passenger side starts swearing "I'll f*ck" you up; it's very difficult to pick out who said what; what the driver or passenger said. On the driver side, the guy looks angry, but not belligerent.

At this point, a rational, normal human being would put that truck in reverse, and back out. Indeed, still at this point, some of the protestors still suggest this is what they should do: "Just back it up... Go around".

Instead, the driver doesn't seem scared by the protesters, but seems pissed off only that there are people in his way, hoots his horn, and uses a hand gesture to suggest they move out the way.

One of the protestors; one who is not by the car; say something along the lines of "I'll tear you out of that car, you little f*ck", and starts to move around to the front of the car; you can hear a "I'll f*ck you up", a couple of times, and it's unclear whether this is passenger side protestor, or the guy leaning towards the drivers side.

At this point, again, the driver has the opportunity to put the car into reverse and get out of the situation; and that should be an obvious action as the protesters are blocking the front of him.

Now, the problem is that we can't see what happened; it's possible that someone did something to the driver or passenger, it is completely unclear; or it is possible the driver simply became fed up and decided to drive through; either are possible.

What is pretty clear from this video, however; is that the driver was acting threateningly, and belligerently with how he pulled his car up; while it is speculative, I suspect he was frustrated that his path was blocked (which is okay), and decided that rather than to suck it up, he was intent to force his way through (which is not). In doing that, he significantly escalated the situation, understandably, pissing the protestors off.

Other than that, the situation is unclear; it's possible that he was hit by one of the protestors, or possible that he simply drove through them; it's very unclear from the video, and difficult to really to say from the footage that is there.

The protestors may or may not have been legally in the road due to protest; and if not, most assuredly did something wrong. But the nature of what they did wrong, is illegally slowing down a driver. That crime is not in and of itself a personal assault, nor warrants being run down.

The driver, contrary to your statement; was responsible for his own belligerence, escalating the situation, and not reacting like a normal person, and reversing away, or escaping the situation at an earlier point; and as at least in part responsible for the situation.

Other than that, I can't comment; at worst, the driver intentionally ran down people in front of him. You could argue that the shouting was "threatening", to me yes, but it's difficult to say that for the driver as, quite honestly he didn't seem that bothered initially, there didn't seem to be an immediate threat of harm that to me would warrant trying to escape, but to be honest it's not clear from the video.

At best, the driver acted belligerently, escalated the situation and kept doing so until someone attacked him, and instead of reversing (which would be the natural instinct if people are going to the front of the car) pulled forward.

Given the drivers behavior, I suspect it's more likely closer to the former, than the latter; although it's very difficult to tell from the footage.

Either way, the driver must necessarily accept at least some responsibility for what happened, and as his actions either directly, or indirectly lead to injury and could have potentially resulted in one, or more peoples death.

Depending on what actually happened, the protestors (especially the ones that were directly threatening, of which I counted 2, and possibly 3), would also be in part responsible.

So no. You said the driver did "literally nothing wrong". No. The driver was an utter douche.