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The Incompetence/Stupidity of Gary Johnson

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10/26/2016 5:22:58 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
2016 has been the holy grail for 3rd parties. Both parties nominated candidates with the highest disapproval ratings of any candidates in either party's history. Both parties nominated two of the most scandal-prone candidates in history (though there is the opinion the some scandals are completely overblown over nothing) which have dogged both of them throughout the race. Both parties have drifted further from the center than ever before, leaving the door wide open for any half-rational person to slip in and make a run for the presidency

And Gary Johnson could not have f*cked it up any worse than he already has.

Let us recap shall we?

1) he put himself and the party in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons

The Libertarian party has not been given the spotlight by the media quite too often, making it so that when they DO get the opportunity to get their message out, its all the more critical that they dont mess it up. Johnson though has done exactly that, every time, without fail. The first time he made headlines was with his 'Aleppo' fail, a fail that showed he does not know much about the Syrian conflict at best, and not knowing anything about foreign affairs at worst. Most people would have assumed it was the former, giving Johnson the benefit of the doubt, but then Johnson doubled down on stupidity only a few weeks later.

Johnson, when asked to name the world leader he respects the most, failed to list ANYONE. Not a single leader in the world. You have to be a special type of stupid to not be able to name a single foreign world leader when you are running for a position that primarily deals with working with foreign leaders..... Johnson could have used the excuse that he didnt really like any world leader, but then the pundit asking the question changed the question to have him name anyone. Anyone at all. And Johnson was too stupid to even do THAT right....... His VP named someone right off the bat, but Johnson instead only gave the answer 'The ex president of Mexico'...... When he was asked which one he was referring to, Johnson failed to name someone, getting caught in his own lie that anyone with more than 6 brain cells could have gotten around.

To so desperately rail about how the media shuts you out of the race only to then royally f*ck up any appearances you DO manage to land only proves what everyone has been saying about third party campaigns all along: They dont get the spotlight not because of some conspiracy against them, they simply dont get the spotlight because they suck as candidates. This election could not have been easier to at least get your foot in the door and make a good name for yourself, yet Johnson managed to find a way to fail anyways.

2) His failure to secure support from any respected politician

There are very few notable people who would even consider endorsing a third party campaign over a Dem or Rep campaign, but when a third party candidate fails to secure anyone with actual weight, then thats a problem....... Gary Johnson's biggest endorsement in the 2016 race is, I sh*t you not, comedian Larry the Cable Guy https://reason.com...

On top of having someone who portrays a redneck idiot be your most famous endorsement, Ron Paul, who every libertarian fuckboy has heaped praise on at one point and probably still do, thinks that Jill Stein is a better option than Gary Johnson. Paul went on to say in an interview that he doesnt event think Johnson truly stands for liberty in the race http://www.mediaite.com...

When the guy whose feet that libertarian supporters would throw themselves at doesnt even think Johnson is the best THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE in the race, that only stands as a testament to Johnson's incompetence. Even RAND Paul, who was next in line to inherit the Libertarian fanbase from his daddy, endorsed Trump over Gary Johnson when his own campaign for president failed (badly) http://www.redstate.com...

Even Jesse Ventura preferred Bernie Sanders over Johnson before Bernie rejected his endorsement, and Venture endorsed Johnson 4 years earlier in 2012. http://theweek.com...

To fail to secure endorsements from some of the most famous libertarian/libertarian-leaning politicians as a libertarian nominee in a race like 2016 is perhaps the biggest choke in the history of politics. It only shows how incompetent Gary Johnson is when he cant accomplish the election equivalent of kicking a PAT, and failing to do so 6 or 7 times in a row.

3) His own Vice President lost hope in him

When Gary Johnson picked Bill Weld as his VP, the two pegged themselves as a 'Libertarian Dream Team'..... Turns out that dream has turned into a nightmare, since Bill Weld has already given up on the presidency and has basically endorsed Hillary instead http://talkingpointsmemo.com... Bill Weld acknowledges that the Johnson will fail to win the presidency with weeks to go, and has dedicated himself to railing against Trump, which amounts to an endorsement of Hillary Clinton since he gave up on Trump and his own running mate.

To have your own VP say 'f*ck it, im out' and instead become an unofficial clinton surrogate shows you how bad Johnson is as a candidate..... In this election where the two major parties are the most hated nominees ever nominated, Johnson's own VP has abandoned Johnsons campaign and has pretty much endorsed a main party candidate.....

So much for the alleged 'Libertarian Dream Team' right?http://www.politico.com...

This election has proven how incompetent and borderline retarded Gary Johnson is as a candidate...... Johnson was given the most open race in modern US history to appeal to the electorate, and at every possible chance found a way to somehow f*ck it up..... He made himself and his party look stupid in the media, he failed to secure endorsements from the few people who libertarians heap praise on, those same people have opted to endorse nobody and stay out of the race completely than give Johnson a courtesy-endorsement, and to top it off, Johnson's own VP candidate which to Johnson made a 'Libertarian Dream Team' abandoned him and his campaign to become an unofficial surrogate for Hillary.

Gary Johnson is an incompetent loser who doomed the Libertarian Party's greatest chance ever to make strides to becoming a formidable party. Not only has he failed to bring positive light to the Libertarian Party in a race that made it stupidly easy to do so, he managed to torpedo the party off screen to leave it in complete shambles. The Libertarian Party squandered some of the best years theyve ever seen to make themselves a respectable party, and they only have Gary Johnson to blame for it
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10/26/2016 6:56:17 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
None of that even compares to this. At best, it was a absurd attempt at getting publicity. At worst, he doesn't even understand why what he's doing is horribly wrong. It may be the stupidest thing any politician has done during an interview, and I'm saying this with full knowledge of Donald Trump.

I'm no longer a Libertarian, but I still respect Ron Paul. I'm honestly embarassed that I supported this guy in 2012 after the Republican primary race was over.
I'm becoming less defined as days go by, fading away, and well you might say, I'm losing focus, kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself.
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10/26/2016 7:01:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I almost forgot about this too. I'm not sure which is worse.
I'm becoming less defined as days go by, fading away, and well you might say, I'm losing focus, kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself.
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10/26/2016 7:01:46 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/26/2016 6:56:17 PM, Subutai wrote:
None of that even compares to this. At best, it was a absurd attempt at getting publicity. At worst, he doesn't even understand why what he's doing is horribly wrong. It may be the stupidest thing any politician has done during an interview, and I'm saying this with full knowledge of Donald Trump.

I'm no longer a Libertarian, but I still respect Ron Paul. I'm honestly embarassed that I supported this guy in 2012 after the Republican primary race was over.



I saw that clip on John Oliver's show. WTF was he doing there? Did someone dare him to do that?
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10/26/2016 7:08:20 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
It's going to take a while for the libertarian minority of the right wing to heal from this. Gary Johnson was an utterly idiotic "progressive" libertarian who handled the election in a laughable manner, and has demonstrated himself to be clueless about things. I agree with most of the OP.
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10/26/2016 7:22:45 PM
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At 10/26/2016 5:22:58 PM, imabench wrote:

Why are you hammering a candidate that doesn't matter?
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10/26/2016 7:45:52 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/26/2016 6:56:17 PM, Subutai wrote:
None of that even compares to this. At best, it was a absurd attempt at getting publicity. At worst, he doesn't even understand why what he's doing is horribly wrong. It may be the stupidest thing any politician has done during an interview, and I'm saying this with full knowledge of Donald Trump.

I'm no longer a Libertarian, but I still respect Ron Paul. I'm honestly embarassed that I supported this guy in 2012 after the Republican primary race was over.



Oh god I had forgotten about the tongue thing XD

Its like I said though that every opportunity he had to shine the media on the libertarian party, he found a way to screw it up
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10/26/2016 7:47:10 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/26/2016 7:22:45 PM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 10/26/2016 5:22:58 PM, imabench wrote:

Why are you hammering a candidate that doesn't matter?

Because this was supposed to be the election where he could have made himself matter. The stars could not have aligned any better to allow for the rise of a third party to national prominence, and Johnson still managed to f*ck it up.
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10/26/2016 8:09:28 PM
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I will be voting for Gary Johnson even though I largely agree with your analysis. I supported John McAfee in the Libertarian primary and voted Rand Paul in the Republican primary. I agree with Darrell Castle the most and I like Evan McMullin.

But, I have to vote Johnson as the best performing alternative to corrupt killer Hillary and con-man Don the authoritarian.
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10/26/2016 9:13:25 PM
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You left out the time when Gary Johnson said he was so "Grateful that nobody got hurt" in the New York City and Minnesota attacks. You know, that attack that left more than 30 people maimed and injured.

http://thehill.com...
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10/26/2016 9:57:08 PM
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At 10/26/2016 7:08:20 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
It's going to take a while for the libertarian minority of the right wing to heal from this. Gary Johnson was an utterly idiotic "progressive" libertarian who handled the election in a laughable manner, and has demonstrated himself to be clueless about things. I agree with most of the OP.
It's painful to watch. And Johnson's actually a hardcore European social democrat than when it comes to spending.

"When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year. [...] Federal spending during the time Johnson was in office grew at an average annual rate of 4.49 percent. Late Clinton and early Bush weren"t as successful in their efforts to fight spending cuts as they might have been, but Johnson makes them look like Coolidge, and federal spending since then has grown at an average annual rate of 4.56 percent."
http://www.nationalreview.com...
https://ricochet.com...
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10/26/2016 10:55:43 PM
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At 10/26/2016 9:57:08 PM, NHN wrote:
At 10/26/2016 7:08:20 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
It's going to take a while for the libertarian minority of the right wing to heal from this. Gary Johnson was an utterly idiotic "progressive" libertarian who handled the election in a laughable manner, and has demonstrated himself to be clueless about things. I agree with most of the OP.
It's painful to watch. And Johnson's actually a hardcore European social democrat than when it comes to spending.

"When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year. [...] Federal spending during the time Johnson was in office grew at an average annual rate of 4.49 percent. Late Clinton and early Bush weren"t as successful in their efforts to fight spending cuts as they might have been, but Johnson makes them look like Coolidge, and federal spending since then has grown at an average annual rate of 4.56 percent."
http://www.nationalreview.com...
https://ricochet.com...

I was always skeptical of him, but the more I look into it, I can say that Gary Johnson is a libertarian in name only. He seems to be among the bunch of "social libertarians" whom have a heavy emphasis on issues such as legal drugs, but has economic views questioning his identity as a libertarian.

I sincerely hope the Libertarian party doesn't take a turn for the worse, and become fiscally left wing.
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10/26/2016 11:21:31 PM
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At 10/26/2016 9:57:08 PM, NHN wrote:

"When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year.

7.3% a year for 8 years amounts to almost a 60% increase in overall spending over the course of 8 years.......

The only president in modern history who comes even close to matching that was LBJ, who averaged 5.7% a year, and the only president who has exceeded 7% increase a year was FDR, who libertarians dont exactly view as a national treasure.

Bill Weld, Johnsons VP on the Libertarian ticket, was governor of Massachusetts from 1991 to 1997....... In 1991 they spent about $30 billion, by 1997 it was $37.5 billion, which is only an increase of about $1 billion per year, which averages to 3% or 4%..... HALF THAT OF JOHNSON.

1991 = http://www.usgovernmentspending.com...
1997 = http://www.usgovernmentspending.com...

Johnson is not even as Libertarian as his own VP, who abandoned him to become a surrogate for Hillary. Its not that Johnson is failing to bring centrist voters towards the libertarian cause, he cant even preserve people who are more libertarian than himself to stick to the party.
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10/26/2016 11:23:42 PM
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At 10/26/2016 10:55:43 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 10/26/2016 9:57:08 PM, NHN wrote:
At 10/26/2016 7:08:20 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
It's going to take a while for the libertarian minority of the right wing to heal from this. Gary Johnson was an utterly idiotic "progressive" libertarian who handled the election in a laughable manner, and has demonstrated himself to be clueless about things. I agree with most of the OP.
It's painful to watch. And Johnson's actually a hardcore European social democrat than when it comes to spending.

"When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year. [...] Federal spending during the time Johnson was in office grew at an average annual rate of 4.49 percent. Late Clinton and early Bush weren"t as successful in their efforts to fight spending cuts as they might have been, but Johnson makes them look like Coolidge, and federal spending since then has grown at an average annual rate of 4.56 percent."
http://www.nationalreview.com...
https://ricochet.com...

I was always skeptical of him, but the more I look into it, I can say that Gary Johnson is a libertarian in name only. He seems to be among the bunch of "social libertarians" whom have a heavy emphasis on issues such as legal drugs, but has economic views questioning his identity as a libertarian.

I sincerely hope the Libertarian party doesn't take a turn for the worse, and become fiscally left wing.

The only future they Libertarian Party has is one that doesnt include Gary Johnson..... He failed to hit 1% of the vote in 2012, he'll be lucky to end up with 4% of the vote in 2016, which means his ceiling will forever be in the low single digits....... Johnson needs to move on from the libertarian party, otherwise the Green party might reclaim the title of 'THE' third party in America
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10/26/2016 11:29:30 PM
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At 10/26/2016 11:23:42 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/26/2016 10:55:43 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 10/26/2016 9:57:08 PM, NHN wrote:
At 10/26/2016 7:08:20 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
It's going to take a while for the libertarian minority of the right wing to heal from this. Gary Johnson was an utterly idiotic "progressive" libertarian who handled the election in a laughable manner, and has demonstrated himself to be clueless about things. I agree with most of the OP.
It's painful to watch. And Johnson's actually a hardcore European social democrat than when it comes to spending.

"When Johnson took the tiller in New Mexico in 1995, the budget stood at $4.397 billion. When he left in 2003, it had grown to $7.721 billion, an increase of 7.29 percent a year. [...] Federal spending during the time Johnson was in office grew at an average annual rate of 4.49 percent. Late Clinton and early Bush weren"t as successful in their efforts to fight spending cuts as they might have been, but Johnson makes them look like Coolidge, and federal spending since then has grown at an average annual rate of 4.56 percent."
http://www.nationalreview.com...
https://ricochet.com...

I was always skeptical of him, but the more I look into it, I can say that Gary Johnson is a libertarian in name only. He seems to be among the bunch of "social libertarians" whom have a heavy emphasis on issues such as legal drugs, but has economic views questioning his identity as a libertarian.

I sincerely hope the Libertarian party doesn't take a turn for the worse, and become fiscally left wing.

The only future they Libertarian Party has is one that doesnt include Gary Johnson..... He failed to hit 1% of the vote in 2012, he'll be lucky to end up with 4% of the vote in 2016, which means his ceiling will forever be in the low single digits....... Johnson needs to move on from the libertarian party, otherwise the Green party might reclaim the title of 'THE' third party in America

He's polled quite well for a third party candidate, but his stupidity didn't let him properly take advantage of the fact that both of the two main candidates aren't very popular (even among their own party base).

Double digits are definitely overly-optimistic none the less.
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10/27/2016 12:51:17 AM
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At 10/26/2016 7:01:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
I almost forgot about this too. I'm not sure which is worse.



He's like the Michael Scott of politics.
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10/27/2016 2:00:22 AM
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At 10/27/2016 12:51:17 AM, n7 wrote:
At 10/26/2016 7:01:22 PM, Subutai wrote:
I almost forgot about this too. I'm not sure which is worse.



He's like the Michael Scott of politics.

That is so true
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10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM
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At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**
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10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM
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At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment. Run back to your basement.
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10/27/2016 6:42:05 AM
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At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

The only politics you're capable of is on DDO and even that is a joke of an attempt.
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10/27/2016 2:12:32 PM
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At 10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Its good that you acknowledge your own stupidity. Admitting it is the first step.
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10/27/2016 2:33:39 PM
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Another example: he set up his campaign office in Utah, realizing they hate Trump. But then be goes crazy and insults the Mormons, and now Evan McMullin, who entered the race two months ago, ate all his support and might even win Utah.
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10/27/2016 5:29:07 PM
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At 10/27/2016 2:12:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Its good that you acknowledge your own stupidity. Admitting it is the first step.

If that's the case you have many more steps to go.
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10/27/2016 6:00:50 PM
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At 10/27/2016 5:29:07 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 2:12:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Its good that you acknowledge your own stupidity. Admitting it is the first step.

If that's the case you have many more steps to go.

Actually im the one smart enough to see the folly of donating and supporting third parties.... Its idiots like you who cant seem to take the hint, nor ever will take the hint
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10/27/2016 9:41:55 PM
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At 10/27/2016 6:00:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:29:07 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 2:12:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Its good that you acknowledge your own stupidity. Admitting it is the first step.

If that's the case you have many more steps to go.

Actually im the one smart enough to see the folly of donating and supporting third parties.... Its idiots like you who cant seem to take the hint, nor ever will take the hint

And I'm smart enough to see how supporting the status quo results in getting sh!t candidates like Clinton and Trump. Your cynicism is BS and is what truly keeps this country in the gutter. Have fun losing to another troll in the mock DDO election.
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10/27/2016 9:47:52 PM
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At 10/27/2016 9:41:55 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 6:00:50 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:29:07 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 2:12:32 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 6:40:38 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/27/2016 5:38:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/27/2016 12:28:29 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

Long live the Progressive Independent Party!

^ Found the dumba**

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Its good that you acknowledge your own stupidity. Admitting it is the first step.

If that's the case you have many more steps to go.

Actually im the one smart enough to see the folly of donating and supporting third parties.... Its idiots like you who cant seem to take the hint, nor ever will take the hint

And I'm smart enough to see how supporting the status quo results in getting sh!t candidates like Clinton and Trump. Your cynicism is BS and is what truly keeps this country in the gutter. Have fun losing to another troll in the mock DDO election.

I'm sick off reading this crap. You've exchanged insults. Others read this too. Be done with it, or switch to a more private method of humiliating yourselves.
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10/28/2016 12:34:37 AM
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At 10/27/2016 9:41:55 PM, Bennett91 wrote:

Have fun losing to another troll in the mock DDO election.

LOL. The presidency was abolished dumbfuck, I succeeded in ending it XD

Thank you though for showing how truly ignorant you are, it only reinforces my point about how third party efforts only lure idiots like you to their ranks XD
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10/28/2016 12:41:47 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
Gary Johnson is profoundly stupid. People who supported him exercised bad judgment, but no worse judgment than Trump supporters. I acknowledge that at one point before Mike Pence was named as Trump's VP that I entertained supporting Trump. Clearly, I am not infallible. I make that disclosure because I don't want to be accused of hypocrisy for denigrating Johnson and his supporters.

I already miss Obama.
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