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10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973
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10/28/2016 2:04:13 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

Ah, Trump says it, it must be true!
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.
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10/28/2016 2:30:14 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Yet another reason I left the current incarnation of the Republican Party.

20 years ago I'd say really dumb things like an unwanted pregnancy is akin to cancer. I was so pro choice it was ridiculous. Life changed that dogmatic stance.

Is there though a truly middle ground? There is always a better alternative than abortion. Yet abortion must always be an option. The polarization disgusts me.
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10/28/2016 2:36:00 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:30:14 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Yet another reason I left the current incarnation of the Republican Party.

20 years ago I'd say really dumb things like an unwanted pregnancy is akin to cancer. I was so pro choice it was ridiculous. Life changed that dogmatic stance.

Is there though a truly middle ground? There is always a better alternative than abortion. Yet abortion must always be an option. The polarization disgusts me.

The battle lines were set in concrete more than 30 years ago, and haven't moved an inch. At this point, its all a battle or bad rhetoric and misunderstanding.
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10/28/2016 2:42:26 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:36:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:30:14 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Yet another reason I left the current incarnation of the Republican Party.

20 years ago I'd say really dumb things like an unwanted pregnancy is akin to cancer. I was so pro choice it was ridiculous. Life changed that dogmatic stance.

Is there though a truly middle ground? There is always a better alternative than abortion. Yet abortion must always be an option. The polarization disgusts me.

The battle lines were set in concrete more than 30 years ago, and haven't moved an inch. At this point, its all a battle or bad rhetoric and misunderstanding.

You've indicated how this has personally effected your family. Can you think of a middle ground? Me, I'd shoot westboros on site. That is wrong. I'd also shoot on site 'my body my choice' without extrapolating that to all arguments that encompass this position.

Honestly I stated in prior post: there is no altruistic answer. Abortion should be an option but maybe not the default choice?
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10/28/2016 2:58:24 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
"There is always a better alternative than abortion. "
That's right, sterilization . If we would just use the technology we now have, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, so there would be no need for abortion.
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10/28/2016 3:01:14 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:42:26 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:36:00 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:30:14 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Yet another reason I left the current incarnation of the Republican Party.

20 years ago I'd say really dumb things like an unwanted pregnancy is akin to cancer. I was so pro choice it was ridiculous. Life changed that dogmatic stance.

Is there though a truly middle ground? There is always a better alternative than abortion. Yet abortion must always be an option. The polarization disgusts me.

The battle lines were set in concrete more than 30 years ago, and haven't moved an inch. At this point, its all a battle or bad rhetoric and misunderstanding.

You've indicated how this has personally effected your family. Can you think of a middle ground? Me, I'd shoot westboros on site. That is wrong. I'd also shoot on site 'my body my choice' without extrapolating that to all arguments that encompass this position.

Honestly I stated in prior post: there is no altruistic answer. Abortion should be an option but maybe not the default choice?

No. I have spent a lifetime looking, and I sure cant find it. There simply is no proper middle ground.

If you believe - in your heart of hearts - that abortion is wrong, I expect you to do everything you can to stop it. It would be discussing if you didn't. If you feel... well... A little more like me, then you live in a real world. A world that is more complex than any bumper-sticker can describe.
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10/28/2016 3:18:45 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:58:24 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
"There is always a better alternative than abortion. "
That's right, sterilization . If we would just use the technology we now have, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, so there would be no need for abortion.
Just because a woman doesn't want to have a child at that given time (rape, isn't financially prepared, etc.) and resorts to abortion doesn't mean that she never wants children.
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10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance
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10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?
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10/28/2016 5:02:01 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

They are in a sense ripping the baby out of the womb. Unless you think smashing it and cutting it to pieces and then sucking it out is a better way of putting it
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10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life

A small percentage of abortions are late term

Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons

Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
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10/28/2016 5:07:15 PM
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"If you believe - in your heart of hearts - that abortion is wrong, I expect you to do everything you can to stop it. "
Yes and to stop it one needs to use sterilization. Making abortion illegal does not stop abortion. The pregnant woman can just go to a place where abortion is legal.
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10/28/2016 5:12:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 3:18:45 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:58:24 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
"There is always a better alternative than abortion. "
That's right, sterilization . If we would just use the technology we now have, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, so there would be no need for abortion.
Just because a woman doesn't want to have a child at that given time (rape, isn't financially prepared, etc.) and resorts to abortion doesn't mean that she never wants children.

She shouldn't be allowed to get one. If she makes a mistake she should own up to it and give it up for adoption at least
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10/28/2016 5:16:54 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

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10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.
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10/28/2016 5:25:49 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 5:12:22 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 3:18:45 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:58:24 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
"There is always a better alternative than abortion. "
That's right, sterilization . If we would just use the technology we now have, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, so there would be no need for abortion.
Just because a woman doesn't want to have a child at that given time (rape, isn't financially prepared, etc.) and resorts to abortion doesn't mean that she never wants children.

She shouldn't be allowed to get one. If she makes a mistake she should own up to it and give it up for adoption at least
I can see that point of view. (Sure, I don't agree with it, but that is neither here nor there.) However, what if she doesn't make a mistake? What if it is a case of rape, incest, or something along those lines? Would you define that as a mistake, or would you accept it in that case?
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10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson

If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
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10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.
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10/28/2016 5:56:51 PM
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At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

I think all hospital birthing rooms should have guillotines placed between the mothers legs. Get the bugger right as it pops it's head out! That's what the Supreme Court said we could do! Right?!
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10/28/2016 6:00:43 PM
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At 10/28/2016 5:56:51 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

I think all hospital birthing rooms should have guillotines placed between the mothers legs. Get the bugger right as it pops it's head out! That's what the Supreme Court said we could do! Right?!

You are on fire recently.
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10/28/2016 6:06:34 PM
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At 10/28/2016 6:00:43 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:56:51 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

I think all hospital birthing rooms should have guillotines placed between the mothers legs. Get the bugger right as it pops it's head out! That's what the Supreme Court said we could do! Right?!

You are on fire recently.

I don't think it's necessarily a good thing that I'm being so active, but thank you anyways lol.
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10/28/2016 6:25:28 PM
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At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

If you want a good description of it, Ben Shapiro describes it better.
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10/28/2016 6:39:13 PM
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At 10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Just because I support the constitution doesnt mean I support all of it

And yes abortion is killing
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10/28/2016 6:49:11 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 6:39:13 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Just because I support the constitution doesnt mean I support all of it
Really? A "cafeteria" constitutionalists?


And yes abortion is killing
Sure it is. However, you are implying (saying) that doctors preform caesarean, then "kill" the baby. This is absurd. Does not happen.

I have said before, ill say again, pro-life actively works make life suck for all. This comes from basic lack of understanding, unwillingness to look at realities and dogma. Chase this "late term" canard for another half century if you please, but stop pretending your efforts do anything but break sh1t. Not one pro-life "initiative" has done a dam bit of good for society, and it sure as hell does not reduce abortion.
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10/28/2016 7:06:12 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 6:49:11 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 6:39:13 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Just because I support the constitution doesnt mean I support all of it
Really? A "cafeteria" constitutionalists?


And yes abortion is killing
Sure it is. However, you are implying (saying) that doctors preform caesarean, then "kill" the baby. This is absurd. Does not happen.


I have said before, ill say again, pro-life actively works make life suck for all. This comes from basic lack of understanding, unwillingness to look at realities and dogma. Chase this "late term" canard for another half century if you please, but stop pretending your efforts do anything but break sh1t. Not one pro-life "initiative" has done a dam bit of good for society, and it sure as hell does not reduce abortion.

So hoe could you ever support killing an innocent child
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10/28/2016 8:31:58 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 7:06:12 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 6:49:11 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 6:39:13 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Just because I support the constitution doesnt mean I support all of it
Really? A "cafeteria" constitutionalists?


And yes abortion is killing
Sure it is. However, you are implying (saying) that doctors preform caesarean, then "kill" the baby. This is absurd. Does not happen.


I have said before, ill say again, pro-life actively works make life suck for all. This comes from basic lack of understanding, unwillingness to look at realities and dogma. Chase this "late term" canard for another half century if you please, but stop pretending your efforts do anything but break sh1t. Not one pro-life "initiative" has done a dam bit of good for society, and it sure as hell does not reduce abortion.

So hoe could you ever support killing an innocent child

How can you support forcing a women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term?

Simply put - Pro-life insists on putting the fetus above the woman right to control her body, and that is nonsense. They wrap the entire debate in emotional black male. Well, around half of all fertilized eggs die spontaneously. Somewhere in 15 to 20 out of every 100 will have a miscarry well after the month of pregnancy. Disposing of unwanted or nonviable fetuses is.. mundane.
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10/28/2016 10:04:36 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
If people were sterilized those half of fertilized eggs wouldn't exist and there would be no miscarriages.
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10/28/2016 10:27:23 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/28/2016 8:31:58 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 7:06:12 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 6:49:11 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 6:39:13 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:45:33 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:31:01 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:19:49 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:07:11 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 5:01:46 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 4:59:02 PM, Reformist wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:16:36 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/28/2016 2:02:21 PM, U.n wrote:
"If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby," - Trump

"You can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb as late as one or two or three days prior to birth," - Trump

Liberals: ripping unborn babies out of vaginas since 1973

The conservative and pro-life willful ignorance of "late term abortion" is astonishing.

Please explain our ignorance

What do you think a POTUS can do about "late term abortions"?

What percentage of abortions are "late term" and why?

Where do you think you can get a "late term" abortion?

Do you really think the OP is being fair in the description?

POTUS can appoint supreme court justices who will be pro life
Just getting SCOTUS judges does not overturn either of the two landmark cases.


A small percentage of abortions are late term
Yup. <1%. Within that small percentage, the medical reasons jump from single digits to the teens, and depending on reporting, more than 20%.


Late term abortions can be done at an abortion clinic for menial reasons
Not really. While elective late term abortions are only available in nine states, medical exception must be available. "Mental" health was discussed in Dol Bolton, however, it is never been tested.


Yes abortions, especially late term abortions involve smashing and cutting yhr baby and then sucking it out or partial birth abortions where they crush thr skull
There is really no such thing as "partial birth". Not from a medical perspective. This notion that doctors are preforming what amounts to cesarean and then killing are bunk, and completely illegal in every state.

Elective late term abortions are an issue created by the very pro-life forces that have limited access and education. Where elective later abortions are preformed, most come from women who have to travel long distances to clinics, have no access to healthcare, did not know they were pregnant. Basically, if you want to jump up-and-down about the every small number of elective later term abortions, look right in the mirror. Its pro-life fault.

Again you can still overturn cases such as pleassy vs Ferguson
Stacking the supreme court (yea, you guys LOVE to talk about constitutionality our of both sides our your mouth) doesn't even come close to "fixing" your issue. If you were to accomplish your goal, you would make life hell for poor women trying to access care, and middle-class and wealthy women would have no disruption of service.

Basically, yet again, pro-life works extra hard to make life suck for everyone involved.


If thry make a mistake thry just cant kill it
What? No. No, you can't kill. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Just because I support the constitution doesnt mean I support all of it
Really? A "cafeteria" constitutionalists?


And yes abortion is killing
Sure it is. However, you are implying (saying) that doctors preform caesarean, then "kill" the baby. This is absurd. Does not happen.


I have said before, ill say again, pro-life actively works make life suck for all. This comes from basic lack of understanding, unwillingness to look at realities and dogma. Chase this "late term" canard for another half century if you please, but stop pretending your efforts do anything but break sh1t. Not one pro-life "initiative" has done a dam bit of good for society, and it sure as hell does not reduce abortion.

So hoe could you ever support killing an innocent child

How can you support forcing a women to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term?

Simply put - Pro-life insists on putting the fetus above the woman right to control her body, and that is nonsense. They wrap the entire debate in emotional black male. Well, around half of all fertilized eggs die spontaneously. Somewhere in 15 to 20 out of every 100 will have a miscarry well after the month of pregnancy. Disposing of unwanted or nonviable fetuses is.. mundane.

55 million american babies have died since roe v wade
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