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MattTheDreamer
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11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...
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11/3/2016 12:06:47 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I will say though, that this entire business leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It kinda feel's like they're sidestepping the will of the people.
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11/3/2016 1:01:13 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...

There aren't any plans to vote in Parliament prior to the appeal to Supreme Court right?
MattTheDreamer
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11/3/2016 1:03:53 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/3/2016 1:01:13 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...

There aren't any plans to vote in Parliament prior to the appeal to Supreme Court right?

I believe so, although I doubt they will win on appeal.
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11/3/2016 4:50:30 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

'Getting on the bad side' of the people who mistakingly voted to leave should actually be the least of their concerns. The point is that a Brexit would do considerable harm to the U.K economy in the long term; in addition to the long and complicated political process of actually getting out--the best thing the U.K could do is remain or have a re-vote.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...
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11/3/2016 4:54:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/3/2016 4:50:30 PM, Emilrose wrote:
At 11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

'Getting on the bad side' of the people who mistakingly voted to leave should actually be the least of their concerns. The point is that a Brexit would do considerable harm to the U.K economy in the long term; in addition to the long and complicated political process of actually getting out--the best thing the U.K could do is remain or have a re-vote.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...

There's a real price to pay to have controlled borders and protection of the culture of a nation. I don't think the UK can pay that price.
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11/3/2016 5:23:15 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
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11/4/2016 12:14:47 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/3/2016 12:05:44 PM, MattTheDreamer wrote:
The British Government was defeated in the High Court today as it ruled that MPs must be given a vote in parliament before Article 50 is triggered.

They are planning on an appeal, but as of now it seems like it will be taken to a vote in parliament. Of course, the remainers are rejoicing while the brexiteers are angry, feeling that their democratic vote now means nothing and instead the majorly remain MPs will block it. Some have even called for a general election before this vote; or, in more extreme fashion, a revolution.

However the pound has risen as a result of this decision so it's not all bad news.

Honestly, I can't disagree with the ruling. It's part of our constitutional law that such a thing must be put to a vote. I just hope that MPs take the decision of the 52% into account when they vote.

May has continued to state that Article 50 will be triggered in March, and it seems to me that MPs on either side wouldn't want to get on the bad side of the 52% if they want to stay in power.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
https://www.theguardian.com...

In a parliamentary system, MP's represent a riding, a specific area. An MP can assume their position with any majority vote over half the population. There are always many who didn't vote for them. The referendum was a truly democratic vote and of course the losing side doesn't agree with democracy- in this case. Supreme court judges are appointed and do not represent the people at all. The British don't have a constitution and rely on common law precedent. These judges are setting a very dangerous precedent by giving the finger to the people of Britain. Shame on them.