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11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.
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11/4/2016 3:54:03 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

Voting for Stein is throwing your vote away. It is impossible for her to win the election.
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11/4/2016 4:10:17 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

What state to you live in?

If you live in a swing state or a state moderately up for grabs, You can vote Clinton this time and then freely vote against her in the next election. Supporting her this year doesnt obligate you to supporting her 4 years from now, but 4 years could be a lot worse if Trump becomes president

If you live in a state like California or Wyoming where its almost guaranteed who will win the state, then f*ck it, vote for whoever you want since it doesnt really matter who you would vote for at this point
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11/4/2016 4:35:36 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 4:12:44 AM, YYW wrote:
Only a stupid person votes for Stein over Hillary.

And its not about policy or that a third party can't win. It's stupid because she is sooo not a primtime POTUS candidate. Well, that AND she can't win AND her policy is not in line with the majority, so....

I can't stand this notion that people cant support anyone that is not "pure" enough for them. Yea I supported Sanders. Never thought he would get as far as he did. Would have loved him over Clinton, but I don't demand that everyone must be as liberal or more then I am to deserve my vote.
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11/4/2016 4:36:24 AM
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At 11/4/2016 4:35:36 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/4/2016 4:12:44 AM, YYW wrote:
Only a stupid person votes for Stein over Hillary.

And its not about policy or that a third party can't win. It's stupid because she is sooo not a primtime POTUS candidate. Well, that AND she can't win AND her policy is not in line with the majority, so....

I can't stand this notion that people cant support anyone that is not "pure" enough for them. Yea I supported Sanders. Never thought he would get as far as he did. Would have loved him over Clinton, but I don't demand that everyone must be as liberal or more then I am to deserve my vote.

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11/4/2016 4:55:06 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 4:10:17 AM, imabench wrote:
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

What state to you live in?

If you live in a swing state or a state moderately up for grabs, You can vote Clinton this time and then freely vote against her in the next election. Supporting her this year doesnt obligate you to supporting her 4 years from now, but 4 years could be a lot worse if Trump becomes president

If you live in a state like California or Wyoming where its almost guaranteed who will win the state, then f*ck it, vote for whoever you want since it doesnt really matter who you would vote for at this point

That was one of the most thought out responses I've heard. That makes sense. My state is a semi-swing state. In the sense, its not neck and neck, but we can't guarantee which candidate will win.
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11/4/2016 5:55:11 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 4:55:06 AM, Stupidape wrote:
At 11/4/2016 4:10:17 AM, imabench wrote:
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

What state to you live in?

If you live in a swing state or a state moderately up for grabs, You can vote Clinton this time and then freely vote against her in the next election. Supporting her this year doesnt obligate you to supporting her 4 years from now, but 4 years could be a lot worse if Trump becomes president

If you live in a state like California or Wyoming where its almost guaranteed who will win the state, then f*ck it, vote for whoever you want since it doesnt really matter who you would vote for at this point

That was one of the most thought out responses I've heard. That makes sense. My state is a semi-swing state. In the sense, its not neck and neck, but we can't guarantee which candidate will win.

Lucky. Nothing against democrats but I haven't liked any of their offerings lately and my state is true blue, so my vote is pretty much useless along with the rest of the minority.
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11/4/2016 1:43:41 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

Vote for whoever you want. The notion that you have to vote majority party or you are throwing away your vote is capital R retarded.
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11/4/2016 3:38:45 PM
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At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Drumpf winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

What state do you live in?
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11/4/2016 3:40:19 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 1:43:41 PM, Robkwoods wrote:
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Drumpf winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

Vote for whoever you want. The notion that you have to vote majority party or you are throwing away your vote is capital R retarded.

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11/5/2016 5:52:28 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 1:43:41 PM, Robkwoods wrote:

The notion that you have to vote majority party or you are throwing away your vote is capital R retarded.

Not to anyone who knows how the electoral college works or how the electoral college just about completely shuts out third party candidates from getting any points in the final tally
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11/5/2016 5:39:00 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

One of Trump or Clinton will win the election. If you have no opinion at all of these two, vote for anyone you wish.

However, if you do care which one of these two wins (and they have very different ideals so I assume most people would care), I would vote for Clinton. You are free to advocate, promote, and voice your opinion that Jill Stein is better. You are free to protest anytime you wish. You do not have to protest in the voting booth. You should help our democracy choose the best option.
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11/5/2016 5:42:13 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 4:35:36 AM, TBR wrote:
At 11/4/2016 4:12:44 AM, YYW wrote:
Only a stupid person votes for Stein over Hillary.

And its not about policy or that a third party can't win. It's stupid because she is sooo not a primtime POTUS candidate. Well, that AND she can't win AND her policy is not in line with the majority, so....

I can't stand this notion that people cant support anyone that is not "pure" enough for them. Yea I supported Sanders. Never thought he would get as far as he did. Would have loved him over Clinton, but I don't demand that everyone must be as liberal or more then I am to deserve my vote.

I agree. People are free to protest anytime they wish. They can encourage Clinton to be more like Stein the say after she gets elected. However, while in the voting booth it is time to choose the best option, not protest. There are other times for that.
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11/5/2016 6:23:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/5/2016 5:52:28 AM, imabench wrote:
At 11/4/2016 1:43:41 PM, Robkwoods wrote:

The notion that you have to vote majority party or you are throwing away your vote is capital R retarded.

Not to anyone who knows how the electoral college works or how the electoral college just about completely shuts out third party candidates from getting any points in the final tally

Oh well if the electoral college is just going to pick who they want, guess it doesn't matter who I vote for.
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11/7/2016 1:49:30 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

Don't vote Jill Stein, partly because she is incompetent (read: regardless of whether her views are broadly in line with your ideology, she will not implement what you want implemented because she won't do much), and partly because Trump should absolutely not win.
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11/7/2016 2:21:09 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 3:39:26 AM, Stupidape wrote:
I decided I will vote for one of the two above candidates. Which should I vote for? I think Stein's views are more in line with my thinking, yet the idea of Trump winning scares me so much I am tempted by Clinton because she is more likely to win the election.

It is corruption vs conspiracy, which ever you prefer. It is not just Trump vs Clinton lesser of 2 evils, Stein and Johnson are both idiots as well.
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11/9/2016 11:06:02 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 4:12:44 AM, YYW wrote:
Only a stupid person votes for Stein over Hillary.

No because thats a wasted vote which is technically a vote for trump

So its actually a smart move to vote for stein guys
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