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Citi warns Trump win = drop in S&P & recesion

U.n
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11/4/2016 12:50:10 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
A Donald Trump win could spark an immediate sell-off of up to 5 percent for the S&P 500, according to analysts at Citi, who also warn on slower growth or even recession for the U.S.

In the longer-term says the research team, "A Trump win risks slower growth or recession if trade is restricted and fiscal expansion plans curtailed. Uncertainty alone could hit the economy. Global growth will also be impacted if uncertainty rises, U.S. growth is hit and U.S. financial conditions tighten."

"If Donald Trump were to win, that outcome would have been unexpected and thereby may cause a jump in the equity risk premium with negative P/E (price "to-earnings) multiple repercussions. We think a Trump victory could spark a 3-5 percent setback in the S&P 500," summarizes the Citi note.

https://www.cnbc.com...

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xus00HAY
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11/4/2016 12:57:30 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
That is probably just some homo who works for "shitibank" and hates Trump because of his negative opinion of marriage equality
FaustianJustice
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11/4/2016 1:28:35 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 12:57:30 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
That is probably just some homo who works for "shitibank" and hates Trump because of his negative opinion of marriage equality

Or use of the word "probably" is a bit.... generous.

Markets like stability.

Trump is not stable.

Any hint or rumor of Hillary not winning causes the market to shed points. Its not rocket science as to why.
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Ramshutu
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11/4/2016 1:38:55 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 1:28:35 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 11/4/2016 12:57:30 PM, xus00HAY wrote:
That is probably just some homo who works for "shitibank" and hates Trump because of his negative opinion of marriage equality



Or use of the word "probably" is a bit.... generous.

Markets like stability.

Trump is not stable.

Any hint or rumor of Hillary not winning causes the market to shed points. Its not rocket science as to why.

The Markets are obviously rigged by Hillary.
vortex86
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11/4/2016 2:32:32 PM
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Couldn't have anything to do with Citi being all over the e-mails leaked by WikiLeaks could it? Or Citi appointed cabinet positions for Obama?
TBR
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11/4/2016 2:44:51 PM
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At 11/4/2016 2:32:32 PM, vortex86 wrote:
Couldn't have anything to do with Citi being all over the e-mails leaked by WikiLeaks could it? Or Citi appointed cabinet positions for Obama?

Or it could be that the markets recognize and react to negative situations. Trump can't keep his sh1t straight for more than a month. Markets don't like a POTUS that fumes at low level insults and holds grudges for years on end.
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11/4/2016 3:32:00 PM
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At 11/4/2016 2:44:51 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/4/2016 2:32:32 PM, vortex86 wrote:
Couldn't have anything to do with Citi being all over the e-mails leaked by WikiLeaks could it? Or Citi appointed cabinet positions for Obama?

Or it could be that the markets recognize and react to negative situations. Trump can't keep his sh1t straight for more than a month. Markets don't like a POTUS that fumes at low level insults and holds grudges for years on end.

So you don't recognize any bias from Citi that's extremely blatant?
TBR
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11/4/2016 3:46:53 PM
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At 11/4/2016 3:32:00 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 11/4/2016 2:44:51 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/4/2016 2:32:32 PM, vortex86 wrote:
Couldn't have anything to do with Citi being all over the e-mails leaked by WikiLeaks could it? Or Citi appointed cabinet positions for Obama?

Or it could be that the markets recognize and react to negative situations. Trump can't keep his sh1t straight for more than a month. Markets don't like a POTUS that fumes at low level insults and holds grudges for years on end.

So you don't recognize any bias from Citi that's extremely blatant?

No. I see someone who is expressing the concerns of analysis. They have no idea what Trump will do one day to the next. Start a twitter fight with the British PM? Seems possible. Call some diplomat a pu$$y? That would be the first Wednesday.

Trump has next to zero impulse control. He does not project a clear vision, or consistency in what he believes. He is everything that markets would distrust.
Romanii
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11/4/2016 5:54:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Sure, paranoid investors will be a on-guard for a while after Trump wins, but eventually they'll realize there's nothing to fear, and that Trump isn't the temperamental moron they think he is. It's obvious that he's capable of being professional when he needs to be.

I wouldn't trust any of the economic analyses about the effects of Trump's trade policies, as they're largely based on straw-men. Trump has explicitly stated that he isn't planning on imposing any tariffs, *unless* countries refuse to re-negotiate their trade deals with us. But no sane country would choose a tariff over re-negotiation, so there's no need to worry about that.

Also, it's hilarious to see liberals agreeing that fair trade is bad, considering their stance on taxation... the economic rationale behind free trade is essentially the same as the economic rationale behind tax cuts for rich ppl & corporations -- reduce companies' expenses so that they can produce cheaper products (tax cuts have the additional benefit of also creating jobs, unlike free trade, which actively kills them). Trump advocates heavy tax cuts and a moderation of free trade. His economic policy is awesome.
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11/4/2016 10:58:22 PM
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The market right now is already volatile af. Most people have no idea how much risk they are currently carrying in their portfolios right now. The rumors of rising interest rates, the possibility of global recession and even more disappointing corporate earnings are not likely to end soon no matter who is elected president. So if your stocks are really that fragile as to be upended by the mere election of a candidate, then your portfolio sucks and you probably should not be holding onto them in the first place. The election, no matter who wins, will likely only be the start more volatility.
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11/5/2016 3:06:02 AM
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At 11/4/2016 3:32:00 PM, vortex86 wrote:
At 11/4/2016 2:44:51 PM, TBR wrote:
At 11/4/2016 2:32:32 PM, vortex86 wrote:
Couldn't have anything to do with Citi being all over the e-mails leaked by WikiLeaks could it? Or Citi appointed cabinet positions for Obama?

Or it could be that the markets recognize and react to negative situations. Trump can't keep his sh1t straight for more than a month. Markets don't like a POTUS that fumes at low level insults and holds grudges for years on end.

So you don't recognize any bias from Citi that's extremely blatant?

Citi is clearly biased, just like how the independent analysts who determined Trump's economic plan would lead to recession and over-borrowing.

The only non-biased sources of info are the National Enquirer and Putin.
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11/5/2016 3:15:14 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 10:58:22 PM, 1Percenter wrote:
The market right now is already volatile af. Most people have no idea how much risk they are currently carrying in their portfolios right now. The rumors of rising interest rates, the possibility of global recession and even more disappointing corporate earnings are not likely to end soon no matter who is elected president. So if your stocks are really that fragile as to be upended by the mere election of a candidate, then your portfolio sucks and you probably should not be holding onto them in the first place. The election, no matter who wins, will likely only be the start more volatility.

Why you gotta be a Debbie-Downer man?
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11/5/2016 3:17:09 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/4/2016 12:50:10 PM, U.n wrote:
A Donald Trump win could spark an immediate sell-off of up to 5 percent for the S&P 500, according to analysts at Citi, who also warn on slower growth or even recession for the U.S.

In the longer-term says the research team, "A Trump win risks slower growth or recession if trade is restricted and fiscal expansion plans curtailed. Uncertainty alone could hit the economy. Global growth will also be impacted if uncertainty rises, U.S. growth is hit and U.S. financial conditions tighten."

"If Donald Trump were to win, that outcome would have been unexpected and thereby may cause a jump in the equity risk premium with negative P/E (price "to-earnings) multiple repercussions. We think a Trump victory could spark a 3-5 percent setback in the S&P 500," summarizes the Citi note.

https://www.cnbc.com...

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Proof positive that Trump is indeed anti- Wallstreet. And not Hillary.
RookieApologist
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11/5/2016 2:14:42 PM
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At 11/4/2016 12:50:10 PM, U.n wrote:
A Donald Trump win could spark an immediate sell-off of up to 5 percent for the S&P 500, according to analysts at Citi, who also warn on slower growth or even recession for the U.S.

In the longer-term says the research team, "A Trump win risks slower growth or recession if trade is restricted and fiscal expansion plans curtailed. Uncertainty alone could hit the economy. Global growth will also be impacted if uncertainty rises, U.S. growth is hit and U.S. financial conditions tighten."

"If Donald Trump were to win, that outcome would have been unexpected and thereby may cause a jump in the equity risk premium with negative P/E (price "to-earnings) multiple repercussions. We think a Trump victory could spark a 3-5 percent setback in the S&P 500," summarizes the Citi note.

https://www.cnbc.com...

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There will in all likelihood be a recession no matter who becomes President. Just Google "US Recession Cycle" - we have one nearly every 2-6 years depending on what source you use.