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11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
Clinton is probably going to lose at this point. The GOP is probably going to hold the Senate. The House will hold.

This was the easiest election matchup possible. Donald Trump. And Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Donna Brazile blew it like the incompetent, irresponsible people they are. I don't think this really needs a whole lot of explanation - the scandals speak for themselves. Their lack of votes speak volumes. And it could have all been avoided.
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11/9/2016 4:07:32 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Clinton is probably going to lose at this point. The GOP is probably going to hold the Senate. The House will hold.

This was the easiest election matchup possible. Donald Trump. And Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Donna Brazile blew it like the incompetent, irresponsible people they are. I don't think this really needs a whole lot of explanation - the scandals speak for themselves. Their lack of votes speak volumes. And it could have all been avoided.

I agree.
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11/9/2016 4:11:44 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Clinton is probably going to lose at this point. The GOP is probably going to hold the Senate. The House will hold.

This was the easiest election matchup possible. Donald Trump. And Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Donna Brazile blew it like the incompetent, irresponsible people they are. I don't think this really needs a whole lot of explanation - the scandals speak for themselves. Their lack of votes speak volumes. And it could have all been avoided.

If Trump gets the red-leaning swing states, I think its safe to say she's done.
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11/9/2016 5:26:55 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Clinton is probably going to lose at this point. The GOP is probably going to hold the Senate. The House will hold.

This was the easiest election matchup possible. Donald Trump. And Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Donna Brazile blew it like the incompetent, irresponsible people they are. I don't think this really needs a whole lot of explanation - the scandals speak for themselves. Their lack of votes speak volumes. And it could have all been avoided.

+1

Hillary should have never been an option.
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11/9/2016 5:47:29 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:

Liberals have said this about the GOP. Yet, it appears the outcome won't be as they had envisioned.
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11/9/2016 5:50:32 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
What Wikileaks said rings true here. I say you can blame the Clintons

"By biasing its internal electoral market the DNC selected the less competitive candidate defeating the purpose of running a primary."

They rigged the debate questions, and the electoral college, they also forced Bernie to sign a non aggression clause to run.

and Hillary intentionally had her controlled media prop up "Pied Piper Candidates". Which included Donald Trump. It's her fault we had her on the Dem ticket and Trump on the Republican ticket.

https://wikileaks.org...
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11/9/2016 5:59:03 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
Despite the Constitutional Supreme Court Justices that will be appointed.

Roe vs. Wade isn't going to be overturned nor is Gay Marriage.

So don't freak out about social issues.
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11/9/2016 6:11:29 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
List of things that also had a hand in this outcome that have nothing to do with Democrats

1 - The media giving Trump so much free press and publicity that analysts estimate it was worth billions of dollars which drowned out any of the other candidates trying to compete against him

2 - The media making a big deal out of trivial things simply because they need to fill airtime and convincing stupid people that what email address a person uses at their job is somehow a critical issue

3 - The stupidity of far right republicans into thinking Trump could produce even 1/4th of the promises he has made during the campaign

4 - The dismissal of almost every Trump scandal as if it were nothing that if Hillary had done the same thing would have people calling for her head
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11/9/2016 6:19:05 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 4:05:29 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
Clinton is probably going to lose at this point. The GOP is probably going to hold the Senate. The House will hold.

This was the easiest election matchup possible. Donald Trump. And Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Donna Brazile blew it like the incompetent, irresponsible people they are. I don't think this really needs a whole lot of explanation - the scandals speak for themselves. Their lack of votes speak volumes. And it could have all been avoided.

8 years of Blame Bush will do that to those in power....
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11/9/2016 6:22:05 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 6:11:29 AM, imabench wrote:
List of things that also had a hand in this outcome that have nothing to do with Democrats

1 - The media giving Trump so much free press and publicity that analysts estimate it was worth billions of dollars which drowned out any of the other candidates trying to compete against him

Masterful manipulation.
2 - The media making a big deal out of trivial things simply because they need to fill airtime and convincing stupid people that what email address a person uses at their job is somehow a critical issue

The media decided Trump would be easy to defeat, and also good for ratings.
3 - The stupidity of far right republicans into thinking Trump could produce even 1/4th of the promises he has made during the campaign

Maga is better than status quo, just ask Jimmy Carter about that.
4 - The dismissal of almost every Trump scandal as if it were nothing that if Hillary had done the same thing would have people calling for her head
Too bad Hillary was no Obama.
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11/9/2016 7:22:04 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
The Democrats would have won if they'd nominated Bernie. Bernie would have crushed Trump. In effect, the establishment defeated itself.
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11/9/2016 7:35:01 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 7:22:04 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
The Democrats would have won if they'd nominated Bernie. Bernie would have crushed Trump. In effect, the establishment defeated itself.

Bernie was the personification of everything that is Socialism, which is what the GOP spent the last 7 and a half years trying to paint Obama as. I highly doubt that Bernie would have 'crushed' Trump since I dont know if Bernie would even be able to beat him at all.
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11/9/2016 8:53:56 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
They really shot themselves in the foot here. I mean, it seemed like there was no way he was going to win, and they blew it.
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11/9/2016 9:00:26 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
At 11/9/2016 7:35:01 AM, imabench wrote:
At 11/9/2016 7:22:04 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
The Democrats would have won if they'd nominated Bernie. Bernie would have crushed Trump. In effect, the establishment defeated itself.

Bernie was the personification of everything that is Socialism, which is what the GOP spent the last 7 and a half years trying to paint Obama as. I highly doubt that Bernie would have 'crushed' Trump since I dont know if Bernie would even be able to beat him at all.

Bernie won most of the states Clinton lost v. Trump. Had Sanders won, there's reason to think he'd have won traditional liberal states along with his primary wins. Trump was the worst GOP candidate on the book, only the worst of the Dems could have lost.
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11/9/2016 9:08:50 AM
Posted: 4 weeks ago
In playing favorites with candidates, the DNC ended up picking the less competitive one. Thus defeating the purpose of running the primary at all.