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Identity Politics and why the left messed up

Mikal
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11/11/2016 9:30:28 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
I am reasonably certain now that this election was not just a repudiation of the establishment, but of the left as well. It was sending a message to the left saying fuk political correctness, your extremist SJWS, and how identity politics has been framed over the course of the past few years. We can almost be certain that with Trump's targeted audience and with his rhetoric that almost every racist person probably voted for Trump, but we also have to accept that a great majority of people who voted for Trump are likewise not racists or bigots. The left, the SJWS, or even people who fell victim to the media's trap inadvertently, labeled average everyday Americans as bigots and racists. There are people who supported him that supported him for their ideological hope that he will bring jobs back, his stance on immigration, his policies for trade, their legitimate concerns about multiculturism movements like BLM. Whether their hopes for Trump are accurate or not, is a non-sequitur. Those people who were on the fence or thinking about supporting Trump were grouped up with the actual racists and labeled and slandered by the left for supporting a "racist" candidate. This was like fire to fuel. They were tired of political correctness, they were tired of the incoherent ramblings of SJWS, and they sent a giant fuk you not only to the establishment but to the people who ridiculed them and generalized them as racists.

The left needs to figure out what their message is. Their framing for Islamaphobia, Multiculturism, terrorism, political correctness, and other concerns that are actually legitimate is not just toxic for the future of the DNC but also intellectually dishonest. The DNCS inability to speak openly about terrorism, or issues involving identity politics is a major issue for them. Sugar coating actual issues with euphemisms is not solving their problems and happens to look detrimental to the parties future according to how the nation voted.

From liberal to liberal, get your sht together. We talked so much about the end of the GOP prior to this election, and now we are looking at a total party reformation ourselves.
TBR
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11/11/2016 9:59:26 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/11/2016 9:30:28 PM, Mikal wrote:
I am reasonably certain now that this election was not just a repudiation of the establishment, but of the left as well. It was sending a message to the left saying fuk political correctness, your extremist SJWS, and how identity politics has been framed over the course of the past few years. We can almost be certain that with Trump's targeted audience and with his rhetoric that almost every racist person probably voted for Trump, but we also have to accept that a great majority of people who voted for Trump are likewise not racists or bigots. The left, the SJWS, or even people who fell victim to the media's trap inadvertently, labeled average everyday Americans as bigots and racists. There are people who supported him that supported him for their ideological hope that he will bring jobs back, his stance on immigration, his policies for trade, their legitimate concerns about multiculturism movements like BLM. Whether their hopes for Trump are accurate or not, is a non-sequitur. Those people who were on the fence or thinking about supporting Trump were grouped up with the actual racists and labeled and slandered by the left for supporting a "racist" candidate. This was like fire to fuel. They were tired of political correctness, they were tired of the incoherent ramblings of SJWS, and they sent a giant fuk you not only to the establishment but to the people who ridiculed them and generalized them as racists.

The left needs to figure out what their message is. Their framing for Islamaphobia, Multiculturism, terrorism, political correctness, and other concerns that are actually legitimate is not just toxic for the future of the DNC but also intellectually dishonest. The DNCS inability to speak openly about terrorism, or issues involving identity politics is a major issue for them. Sugar coating actual issues with euphemisms is not solving their problems and happens to look detrimental to the parties future according to how the nation voted.

From liberal to liberal, get your sht together. We talked so much about the end of the GOP prior to this election, and now we are looking at a total party reformation ourselves.

There is plenty in this post to discuss, I just am not ready.

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