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11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech
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11/16/2016 12:35:28 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

That's all we need is more college students who close their ears to a difference of opinion. Give them another trophy just for speaking out and a safe place to ponder how wonderful they are.
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11/16/2016 12:40:16 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:35:28 AM, Peepette wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

That's all we need is more college students who close their ears to a difference of opinion. Give them another trophy just for speaking out and a safe place to ponder how wonderful they are.

I agree. I'm not particularly keen on the idea of banning speakers on the basis of their opinions. If they allow the YAF event to go on (which they did), they shouldn't disallow one of the speakers. It's also noteworthy to point out their reason for banning Shapiro was "security concerns." Yet, he arrived and there were no protesters. They had a chance to withdraw their unfounded ban, but still turned him away, threatening arrest. Shapiro made note of the irony of having so many security officers just for "a 5'9' 169 Jewish guy." Certainly an embarrassment to the administration.
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11/16/2016 12:46:21 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

As an update. He tried entering a hall where Christina Hoff Sommers was holding an event and she invited Ben Shapiro as a guest. When he arrived, he was told that if he set foot within on campus, he would be arrested.

http://www.dailywire.com...

Another fact that should be brought up was that this is the same university where Black Lives Matter hijacked a Milo Yiannopoulos event where a black girl pulled the mic from the host or whatever and threatened to punch Milo. Yet the DePaul security team was instructed by administration to not remove the protestors.

This is also the same college who prohibited conservatives from putting up a poster stating "Unborn lives matter".

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

There is a reason why the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education has ranked DePaul University as the worst school for freedom of speech.

https://www.thefire.org...
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11/16/2016 12:47:29 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:46:21 AM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

As an update. He tried entering a hall where Christina Hoff Sommers was holding an event and she invited Ben Shapiro as a guest. When he arrived, he was told that if he set foot within on campus, he would be arrested.

http://www.dailywire.com...

Another fact that should be brought up was that this is the same university where Black Lives Matter hijacked a Milo Yiannopoulos event where a black girl pulled the mic from the host or whatever and threatened to punch Milo. Yet the DePaul security team was instructed by administration to not remove the protestors.

This is also the same college who prohibited conservatives from putting up a poster stating "Unborn lives matter".

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

There is a reason why the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education has ranked DePaul University as the worst school for freedom of speech.

https://www.thefire.org...

It's madness.
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11/16/2016 12:51:45 AM
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At 11/16/2016 12:47:29 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:46:21 AM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

As an update. He tried entering a hall where Christina Hoff Sommers was holding an event and she invited Ben Shapiro as a guest. When he arrived, he was told that if he set foot within on campus, he would be arrested.

http://www.dailywire.com...

Another fact that should be brought up was that this is the same university where Black Lives Matter hijacked a Milo Yiannopoulos event where a black girl pulled the mic from the host or whatever and threatened to punch Milo. Yet the DePaul security team was instructed by administration to not remove the protestors.

This is also the same college who prohibited conservatives from putting up a poster stating "Unborn lives matter".

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

There is a reason why the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education has ranked DePaul University as the worst school for freedom of speech.

https://www.thefire.org...

It's madness.

The funny thing is that DePaul tried doing damage control with its horrible record with freedom of speech by hosting a "diverse" range of speakers (which lacked anyone with conservative views)
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11/16/2016 1:34:35 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It is very common for Christian colleges to limit speech on their campuses. Falwell nixed an anti Trump article from the school paper as he is the final editor.

One could even argue for religious freedom. When does freedom of speech Trump freedom of religion? Good question, but not applicable to this situation because they are private colleges and can suppress any speech they like.

I don't think it is particularly good that they didn't let Shapiro speak, but controversial people like that need to realize that people have a right to protest them as well. (If done in a proper manner)
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11/16/2016 1:53:35 AM
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At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It's a private Uni. I don't see it as a public concern. Their concerns over security may be legit. I don't see how to tell.
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11/16/2016 1:55:17 AM
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At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It's not. Colleges are not public spaces.
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11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM
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At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.
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11/16/2016 3:18:37 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Utterly stupid. Colleges need to become more accepting of political views and end this regressive trend and "safe spaces." Heck even Obama, a left winger, has spoken negatively about "safe spaces".
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11/16/2016 4:04:13 AM
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At 11/16/2016 3:18:37 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Utterly stupid. Colleges need to become more accepting of political views and end this regressive trend and "safe spaces." Heck even Obama, a left winger, has spoken negatively about "safe spaces".

I wouldn't want to go to a college like that that censors speech
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11/16/2016 4:11:15 AM
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Ben shows just how intolerant the left really is.

I mean really, what is Ben Shapiro really doing that warrants such a hysterical response? The response to Milo when he visits campuses is over the top and ridiculous, but it's at least somewhat understandable. But what did Ben Shapiro do?

We get the message. Conservative speech is not permissible in a university setting.

I really hope that the emperor finds some way to fix this. I know so many mid-wits who have been utterly ruined by the incessant marxist propaganda they're taught in college. Beautiful and sweet young women who became unlovable blue haired feminists, or once solid and happy guys who now spend their time sharing anti-white articles on Facebook--and spend decades in debt for the privilege to be brainwashed. It's amazing just how toxic the system of higher education really is.
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11/16/2016 4:15:43 AM
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At 11/16/2016 4:11:15 AM, thett3 wrote:
Ben shows just how intolerant the left really is.

But guess what--we president now, bitch. And we will crash their system with NO SURVIVAHS
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11/16/2016 4:52:08 PM
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At 11/16/2016 1:53:35 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It's a private Uni. I don't see it as a public concern. Their concerns over security may be legit. I don't see how to tell.

No, that misses the point. To my understanding, the YAF event was still allowed to go on. It embodies plenty of conservatives similar to Shapiro. They were specifically denying him. The security concerns were unfounded... they cited fear of protest and there were no protests. He arrived, there were no protests, and they still refused to withdraw their ban. I don't see any valid reason to prohibit him when they still allow a conservative event go on.
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11/16/2016 4:54:02 PM
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At 11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.

The YAF event still went on. It embodies conservative speakers. Their concern of "security" and protests were entirely unfounded. And they still refused to withdraw the ban. I think it's ridiculous to ban someone when you still allow the event to go on.
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11/16/2016 4:55:10 PM
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At 11/16/2016 3:18:37 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Utterly stupid. Colleges need to become more accepting of political views and end this regressive trend and "safe spaces." Heck even Obama, a left winger, has spoken negatively about "safe spaces".

I agree. It's hypocritical to ban a speaker when you allow the event to go on. Basically they're saying "we're accepting as long as it's not Ben Shapiro, he hurts our feelings."
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11/16/2016 4:57:02 PM
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At 11/16/2016 4:11:15 AM, thett3 wrote:
Ben shows just how intolerant the left really is.

All the time.

I mean really, what is Ben Shapiro really doing that warrants such a hysterical response? The response to Milo when he visits campuses is over the top and ridiculous, but it's at least somewhat understandable. But what did Ben Shapiro do?

Exactly. Maybe facts hurt their feelings?

We get the message. Conservative speech is not permissible in a university setting.

Mhm. It's madness.

I really hope that the emperor finds some way to fix this. I know so many mid-wits who have been utterly ruined by the incessant marxist propaganda they're taught in college. Beautiful and sweet young women who became unlovable blue haired feminists, or once solid and happy guys who now spend their time sharing anti-white articles on Facebook--and spend decades in debt for the privilege to be brainwashed. It's amazing just how toxic the system of higher education really is.

Indeed. As Shapiro once said, "You have to be very educated to be that stupid."
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11/16/2016 5:24:13 PM
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At 11/16/2016 4:52:08 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 1:53:35 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It's a private Uni. I don't see it as a public concern. Their concerns over security may be legit. I don't see how to tell.

No, that misses the point. To my understanding, the YAF event was still allowed to go on. It embodies plenty of conservatives similar to Shapiro. They were specifically denying him. The security concerns were unfounded... they cited fear of protest and there were no protests. He arrived, there were no protests, and they still refused to withdraw their ban. I don't see any valid reason to prohibit him when they still allow a conservative event go on.

The allegation is that the DePaul's actions were politically motivated and that the stated reason for the ban was a pretext. I don't buy it. Shapiro has reported many student protests to him speaking on campuses in the past, and DePaul has been known to be a stickler on security issues. See, e.g.:

https://www.thefire.org...

Was DePaul's requirement that the socialists pay for security guards just a pretext for politically motivated censorship?
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11/16/2016 5:34:07 PM
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At 11/16/2016 4:52:08 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 1:53:35 AM, Death23 wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

It's a private Uni. I don't see it as a public concern. Their concerns over security may be legit. I don't see how to tell.

No, that misses the point. To my understanding, the YAF event was still allowed to go on. It embodies plenty of conservatives similar to Shapiro. They were specifically denying him. The security concerns were unfounded... they cited fear of protest and there were no protests. He arrived, there were no protests, and they still refused to withdraw their ban. I don't see any valid reason to prohibit him when they still allow a conservative event go on.

https://www.thefire.org...

I'm guessing they didn't want what happened last time to happen again.
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11/16/2016 5:59:36 PM
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Pretty hilarious that the talk he was planning to give was on campus intolerance. I suppose that even though the talk was never given, the message got across nevertheless.
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11/16/2016 6:49:34 PM
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At 11/16/2016 4:54:02 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.

The YAF event still went on. It embodies conservative speakers. Their concern of "security" and protests were entirely unfounded. And they still refused to withdraw the ban. I think it's ridiculous to ban someone when you still allow the event to go on.

It's a private place. They can be as closed a University as they want to be. They can also select who is allowed to enroll there as well.
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11/16/2016 7:21:30 PM
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My only comment on this:

Why do you need 30 security guards to defend a campus from a 5'9 165lb person.
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11/16/2016 7:22:44 PM
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At 11/16/2016 5:59:36 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Pretty hilarious that the talk he was planning to give was on campus intolerance. I suppose that even though the talk was never given, the message got across nevertheless.

It is funny how progressives often unintentionally prove conservatives points.
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11/16/2016 7:59:55 PM
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At 11/16/2016 4:55:10 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:18:37 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Utterly stupid. Colleges need to become more accepting of political views and end this regressive trend and "safe spaces." Heck even Obama, a left winger, has spoken negatively about "safe spaces".

I agree. It's hypocritical to ban a speaker when you allow the event to go on. Basically they're saying "we're accepting as long as it's not Ben Shapiro, he hurts our feelings."

This happens on universities far too much, and the progressive movement really needs to die. I hope the rise of right wing populism and nationalism helps put an end to this attack on free speech.
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11/16/2016 10:02:17 PM
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At 11/16/2016 5:59:36 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
Pretty hilarious that the talk he was planning to give was on campus intolerance. I suppose that even though the talk was never given, the message got across nevertheless.

It was given. Christina Sommers, who was going to speak with him, was in the lecture hall. She Skyped him and they told everyone to leave and go to another facility where he did give his speech. XD

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11/16/2016 10:08:41 PM
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At 11/16/2016 6:49:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 4:54:02 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.

The YAF event still went on. It embodies conservative speakers. Their concern of "security" and protests were entirely unfounded. And they still refused to withdraw the ban. I think it's ridiculous to ban someone when you still allow the event to go on.

It's a private place. They can be as closed a University as they want to be. They can also select who is allowed to enroll there as well.

I'm not disputing their rights to do so. I'm only asserting it's ridiculous to do what they have done. It is nothing more, nothing less than suppression of a speech they didn't want to hear from a person they don't like. "Campus intolerance" was the speech he was to give.
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11/16/2016 10:10:20 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 10:08:41 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 6:49:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 4:54:02 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.

The YAF event still went on. It embodies conservative speakers. Their concern of "security" and protests were entirely unfounded. And they still refused to withdraw the ban. I think it's ridiculous to ban someone when you still allow the event to go on.

It's a private place. They can be as closed a University as they want to be. They can also select who is allowed to enroll there as well.

I'm not disputing their rights to do so. I'm only asserting it's ridiculous to do what they have done. It is nothing more, nothing less than suppression of a speech they didn't want to hear from a person they don't like. "Campus intolerance" was the speech he was to give.

Well if you want to spend 60k on your kid's higher education while ensuring that they will be among the many that don't understand half the country, then it's money well spent.
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11/16/2016 10:13:58 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 7:59:55 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/16/2016 4:55:10 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:18:37 AM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Utterly stupid. Colleges need to become more accepting of political views and end this regressive trend and "safe spaces." Heck even Obama, a left winger, has spoken negatively about "safe spaces".

I agree. It's hypocritical to ban a speaker when you allow the event to go on. Basically they're saying "we're accepting as long as it's not Ben Shapiro, he hurts our feelings."

This happens on universities far too much, and the progressive movement really needs to die. I hope the rise of right wing populism and nationalism helps put an end to this attack on free speech.

It does. I don't really care about what "rights" a school has based on being a private one, or any other caveat that would legal allow banning speakers. I simply entirely disagree with the principle in doing so if the proper protocol is done. Don't host an event like this if you don't want someone to speak about something that might melt your snowflake.
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11/16/2016 10:14:51 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 10:10:20 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 10:08:41 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 6:49:34 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 4:54:02 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/16/2016 3:07:03 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/16/2016 12:32:52 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
Earlier this year, Ben Shapiro was banned from speaking at DePaul University:
http://www.chicagotribune.com...

He showed up anyways, and was denied entrance:
http://www.foxnews.com...
http://www.mediaite.com...

Thoughts? To me, it seems like a classic case of suppression of free speech

Colleges are free to be closed institutions if they so wish to be. Some religious universities ban speakers for silly reasons.

The YAF event still went on. It embodies conservative speakers. Their concern of "security" and protests were entirely unfounded. And they still refused to withdraw the ban. I think it's ridiculous to ban someone when you still allow the event to go on.

It's a private place. They can be as closed a University as they want to be. They can also select who is allowed to enroll there as well.

I'm not disputing their rights to do so. I'm only asserting it's ridiculous to do what they have done. It is nothing more, nothing less than suppression of a speech they didn't want to hear from a person they don't like. "Campus intolerance" was the speech he was to give.

Well if you want to spend 60k on your kid's higher education while ensuring that they will be among the many that don't understand half the country, then it's money well spent.

Lol.
"The right to 360 noscope noobs shall not be infringed!!!" -- tajshar2k
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
"Hillary Clinton is not my favorite person ... and her campaign is as inspiring as a bowl of cottage cheese." -- YYW