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Mitt Romney for Secretary of State

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11/18/2016 5:12:48 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

I've always loved Iran. The trees here are all the right height!
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11/19/2016 9:19:13 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

100% agree. Although I highly doubt this is going to happen
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11/19/2016 9:22:52 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/19/2016 9:19:13 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

100% agree. Although I highly doubt this is going to happen

But then again, Trump is full of surprises
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11/19/2016 11:19:31 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/19/2016 9:22:52 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 11/19/2016 9:19:13 PM, NothingSpecial99 wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

100% agree. Although I highly doubt this is going to happen

But then again, Trump is full of surprises

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11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.
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11/20/2016 1:39:43 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

It will be Trump's policy.
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11/20/2016 1:42:09 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

He's a pro-America pragmatist.

He's not a neocon.
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11/20/2016 1:42:25 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 1:39:43 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

It will be Trump's policy.

Which you can expect Romney to help set.
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11/20/2016 1:46:30 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

It would be for the best but it will never happen.
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11/20/2016 1:47:05 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 1:42:25 AM, YYW wrote:
At 11/20/2016 1:39:43 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

It will be Trump's policy.

Which you can expect Romney to help set.

He will, or he won't be awarded the job.
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11/20/2016 7:01:06 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

Agreed. Id much rather see Romney as Secretary of State than that searing ball of hatred that is the corpse of Rudy Giuliani
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11/20/2016 7:04:44 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 7:01:06 AM, imabench wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

Agreed. Id much rather see Romney as Secretary of State than that searing ball of hatred that is the corpse of Rudy Giuliani

Yeah. Rudy is like a more nasty and less lovable version of Rob Ford.
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11/20/2016 11:18:30 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 1:42:09 AM, YYW wrote:
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

He's a pro-America pragmatist.

He's not a neocon.

Can you go a bit more in depth? Are you saying that his policies are actually rather similar to Trump's?
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11/20/2016 4:29:43 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 11:18:30 AM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/20/2016 1:42:09 AM, YYW wrote:
At 11/19/2016 11:19:57 PM, Subutai wrote:
At 11/18/2016 5:08:54 AM, YYW wrote:
This would be the best possible thing Donald Trump could do.

I would support this 100%.

What exactly is Romney's foreign policy? If it's neo-con in nature like I think it is, that would take away one of the few reasons I sort of like Trump.

He's a pro-America pragmatist.

He's not a neocon.

Can you go a bit more in depth? Are you saying that his policies are actually rather similar to Trump's?

Mitt is much more measured than Trump, but doesn't have what you would call a "set" ideology. He's not the kind of guy who is going to get locked into, for example, tit for tat escalation as a result of some injudicious no-fly zone that was established for the sole purpose of antagonizing Russia. He's also not going to compromise on any American interest in any part of the world.

Romney is more of a tactician than an ideologue, and this applies to both his foreign and his domestic policies. It's why he would have made a good president.

Romney's policies are not like Trump's, though. Trump is a "win the battle at all costs" kind of guy, which is a problem because he gets caught up in the moment rather than focusing on long term goals. Trump doesn't have the kind of foresight Romney does. Trump is actually in that respect a lot more like Hillary Clinton, who can only really see the next five steps ahead of him.

Romney, more like Obama, thinks twenty, thirty, and fifty steps ahead to the end of the engagement, and he's going to consider it in the context of other engagements as well. So, unlike Trump, again, Romney's not going to see Syria and Ukraine as discrete problems, but as different theaters of one problem in which actions in one will necessarily have effects in the other.

Romney's light hand might have a lot more power, too, with Trump's background of apparent insanity. Like, Romney's the "good cop," but Trump's the insane cop.
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11/20/2016 5:30:41 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
This would be a great. It would certainly calm some nerves of allies who are concerned about Trump's direction in foreign policy and what his future actions will be. Romney has a very down-to-earth demeanor and a foreign policy with the parameters of accepted US orthodoxy.

Since the two have differences on some key areas of policy such as free trade and what to do about Russia, it'll be interesting to see what unfolds. Perhaps Romney will have an influence on Trump policy-wise, or Trump will insist that his policies are set in stone and will be difficult to compromise with.

They do agree on several things though, such as the magnitude of the threat of Islamic extremism and the need to boost military spending. Ultimately I think he'd be a far better choice than Giuliani.
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11/20/2016 5:50:00 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 5:30:41 PM, Varrack wrote:
This would be a great. It would certainly calm some nerves of allies who are concerned about Trump's direction in foreign policy and what his future actions will be. Romney has a very down-to-earth demeanor and a foreign policy with the parameters of accepted US orthodoxy.

Since the two have differences on some key areas of policy such as free trade and what to do about Russia, it'll be interesting to see what unfolds. Perhaps Romney will have an influence on Trump policy-wise, or Trump will insist that his policies are set in stone and will be difficult to compromise with.

They do agree on several things though, such as the magnitude of the threat of Islamic extremism and the need to boost military spending. Ultimately I think he'd be a far better choice than Giuliani.

There is no need to boost military spending. Based on what are you asserting this?
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