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11/20/2016 12:15:34 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Professor Stephen Hawking predicts that the earth may be doomed in 1000 years due to disaster such as a nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or the rising threat of artificial intelligence. He also suggested that humanity as a whole has no future if it does not go to space (https://www.extremetech.com... and http://www.foxnews.com...)

"Hawking noted in the speech that some of the most pressing concerns for the future of humanity could come in the next century, as artificial intelligence is perfected and global climate change continues to affect civilization. When something happens on Earth, we don"t want all of humanity to be here, according to Hawking. The best way to keep the species going is to make sure we"ve got a backup " humans on other planets and maybe even in other star systems."

I think he's being generous with this estimate.
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11/20/2016 12:22:09 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
Stephen Hawking is mostly a pop scientist, pretty much only famous for being a cyborg, and needn't be taken all that seriously.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/20/2016 12:24:30 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
I also think the dude is constantly trying to project his dependence on, and oppression by, machines, on us.
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: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/20/2016 12:27:39 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 12:15:34 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Professor Stephen Hawking predicts that the earth may be doomed in 1000 years due to disaster such as a nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or the rising threat of artificial intelligence. He also suggested that humanity as a whole has no future if it does not go to space (https://www.extremetech.com... and http://www.foxnews.com...)

"Hawking noted in the speech that some of the most pressing concerns for the future of humanity could come in the next century, as artificial intelligence is perfected and global climate change continues to affect civilization. When something happens on Earth, we don"t want all of humanity to be here, according to Hawking. The best way to keep the species going is to make sure we"ve got a backup " humans on other planets and maybe even in other star systems."

I think he's being generous with this estimate.

whatever problems we have on earth, we don't need to bring them to space, it doesn't need it.
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11/20/2016 2:18:34 AM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
1,000 years? Where did he get his figures? Math or it didn't happen.

Also, I thought climate change was supposed to kill us much sooner.
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11/20/2016 2:21:50 AM
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I don't know, I just wish people would stop using him as some kind of master of knowledge. Even during Brexit I read one person say: 'but Stephen Hawking said this_'...seriously.
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11/20/2016 7:47:54 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 2:18:34 AM, RookieApologist wrote:
1,000 years? Where did he get his figures? Math or it didn't happen.

Also, I thought climate change was supposed to kill us much sooner.

Nobody has ever said global warming would cause extinction of humans. Duhhh.
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11/20/2016 8:01:28 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 12:24:30 AM, Devilry wrote:
I also think the dude is constantly trying to project his dependence on, and oppression by, machines, on us.

I like hawking but that is an intriguing hypothesis. To be fair though he thinks we are going to die of a multitude of causes, he believes aliens would kill us, machines, ourselves, and nature. I personally don't believe in either AI or aliens, but I think we are doing a good job setting up nature to squash us.
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11/20/2016 8:03:02 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 2:18:34 AM, RookieApologist wrote:
1,000 years? Where did he get his figures? Math or it didn't happen.

Estimation.

Also, I thought climate change was supposed to kill us much sooner.
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11/20/2016 8:04:38 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 2:21:50 AM, Emilrose wrote:
I don't know, I just wish people would stop using him as some kind of master of knowledge. Even during Brexit I read one person say: 'but Stephen Hawking said this_'...seriously.

Hawking has a knack for explaining physics. That's his niche.
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11/20/2016 8:37:12 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 8:01:28 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 11/20/2016 12:24:30 AM, Devilry wrote:
I also think the dude is constantly trying to project his dependence on, and oppression by, machines, on us.

I like hawking but that is an intriguing hypothesis. To be fair though he thinks we are going to die of a multitude of causes, he believes aliens would kill us, machines, ourselves, and nature. I personally don't believe in either AI or aliens, but I think we are doing a good job setting up nature to squash us.

I like him too in fairness. I disliked him a little bit after reading A Brief History of Time (good enough read though it was) because I found it awfully self-serving - almost masturbatory - but that movie endeared him to me big time. He's still a bit ridiculous though.
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/20/2016 8:41:20 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
I also think AI is a long way off. These fckers are still insisting consciousness is an illusion.
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: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/20/2016 8:52:46 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 12:27:39 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/20/2016 12:15:34 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Professor Stephen Hawking predicts that the earth may be doomed in 1000 years due to disaster such as a nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or the rising threat of artificial intelligence. He also suggested that humanity as a whole has no future if it does not go to space (https://www.extremetech.com... and http://www.foxnews.com...)

"Hawking noted in the speech that some of the most pressing concerns for the future of humanity could come in the next century, as artificial intelligence is perfected and global climate change continues to affect civilization. When something happens on Earth, we don"t want all of humanity to be here, according to Hawking. The best way to keep the species going is to make sure we"ve got a backup " humans on other planets and maybe even in other star systems."

I think he's being generous with this estimate.

whatever problems we have on earth, we don't need to bring them to space, it doesn't need it.

When Earth sends its people, they're sending people with a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems here.
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11/20/2016 9:31:56 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 2:21:50 AM, Emilrose wrote:
I don't know, I just wish people would stop using him as some kind of master of knowledge. Even during Brexit I read one person say: 'but Stephen Hawking said this_'...seriously.

Yeah, that and nothing else.
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11/20/2016 10:37:12 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 8:52:46 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 11/20/2016 12:27:39 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/20/2016 12:15:34 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Professor Stephen Hawking predicts that the earth may be doomed in 1000 years due to disaster such as a nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or the rising threat of artificial intelligence. He also suggested that humanity as a whole has no future if it does not go to space (https://www.extremetech.com... and http://www.foxnews.com...)

"Hawking noted in the speech that some of the most pressing concerns for the future of humanity could come in the next century, as artificial intelligence is perfected and global climate change continues to affect civilization. When something happens on Earth, we don"t want all of humanity to be here, according to Hawking. The best way to keep the species going is to make sure we"ve got a backup " humans on other planets and maybe even in other star systems."

I think he's being generous with this estimate.

whatever problems we have on earth, we don't need to bring them to space, it doesn't need it.

When Earth sends its people, they're sending people with a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems here.

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11/21/2016 2:58:34 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
A colony on another planet?
While you might see that on Star Trek, there is no way that will work in real life.
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11/21/2016 3:40:10 AM
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At 11/21/2016 2:58:34 AM, xus00HAY wrote:
A colony on another planet?
While you might see that on Star Trek, there is no way that will work in real life.

Unless we build an artificial Death Star. That would be fvcking awesome.
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11/21/2016 6:55:11 AM
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Hawking is an authority on physics, not politics. Lord Kelvin who was pretty much the Stephen Hawking of his day got a number of things wrong. He claimed the age of the earth was 20 million years old, didn't believe in X-rays or that radio would go anywhere. He looked silly because he stepped out of his authority.
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11/21/2016 4:26:14 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 7:47:54 PM, slo1 wrote:
At 11/20/2016 2:18:34 AM, RookieApologist wrote:
1,000 years? Where did he get his figures? Math or it didn't happen.

Also, I thought climate change was supposed to kill us much sooner.

Nobody has ever said global warming would cause extinction of humans. Duhhh.

It was a joke, quite obviously.
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11/21/2016 4:33:33 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/20/2016 12:15:34 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
Professor Stephen Hawking predicts that the earth may be doomed in 1000 years due to disaster such as a nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or the rising threat of artificial intelligence. He also suggested that humanity as a whole has no future if it does not go to space (https://www.extremetech.com... and http://www.foxnews.com...)

"Hawking noted in the speech that some of the most pressing concerns for the future of humanity could come in the next century, as artificial intelligence is perfected and global climate change continues to affect civilization. When something happens on Earth, we don"t want all of humanity to be here, according to Hawking. The best way to keep the species going is to make sure we"ve got a backup " humans on other planets and maybe even in other star systems."

I think he's being generous with this estimate.

This type of attitude is unsubstantiated and needlessly depressing. The chance of the entire human race, or even a significant percentage of the human population being exterminated is extremely small. Except for a giant asteroid or some other sort of cosmic event, there aren't many conceivable ways that this could happen that couldn't be stopped by human intervention.

Honestly, while Hawking is a quite good physicist and has done a lot of great work in physics (e.g. Hawking radiation), his authority in physics doesn't carry over to other disciplines, and his status as a "popular science" figure is meaningless. He's made doomsday predictions like this in the past, and they're just as ridiculous. He seems to specialize in making "profound" statements that are actually just elaborate bullsh*t. He needs to stick to physics and stop making fatalistic statements such as that.
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