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11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.

I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.
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11/26/2016 5:15:40 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Donald won because Hillary was so bad, he got less votes than the last 2 republican candidates.
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11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.
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11/26/2016 5:35:26 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

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11/26/2016 6:06:06 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Which is exactly what he is
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11/26/2016 6:08:32 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 6:06:06 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Which is exactly what he is

Prove it.
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11/26/2016 6:31:15 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Trump may genuinely racist, ect. He also may not be. However, Trump definitely is an elite who cares more about gaining more money, power and status for himself, his family and his cronies than helping the common people.

Trump's rhetoric was definitely divisive. The media never put words in Trump's mouth. The media just reported what Trump said. Trump gave statement after statement that had racist undertones, while always leaving an out or excuse as to why it was not racist. This caused divisiveness and controversy. This divisiveness and controversy is what convinced a bunch of white working class voters to vote for the guy who is looking out for himself more than the people.
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11/26/2016 6:36:53 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 6:08:32 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:06:06 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Which is exactly what he is

Prove it.

This is exactly what the "elites" want you to argue about. They want people divided on racism, ect., so no one is questioning why Trump is giving cabinet positions to his friends and cronies instead of the best man for the job, why Trump has asked foreign countries to give his projects the green light to proceed, and why tax payers will pay the Trump Organization $3 Million so security can rent space in his tower, and why Trump's policies will favor this rich elite.
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11/26/2016 6:45:21 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

https://www.youtube.com...

https://www.youtube.com...

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

"It was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Commission, who documented that black people were told no apartments were available in Trump properties while white testers at the same time were immediately offered apartments. In a sampling of 10 Trump buildings, only 1 to 3.5 percent of the occupants were minorities, making it one of the strongest cases the Justice Department had ever seen for violations of the Fair Housing Act."

The conclusion that Trump is a sexist, bigot, racist etc. is supported by the available evidence.
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11/26/2016 6:49:33 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 5:15:40 PM, Fernyx wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Donald won because Hillary was so bad, he got less votes than the last 2 republican candidates.

Hillary Clinton was a weak candidate. But, so was Donald Trump.

Instead of calling Trump supporters "deplorable", she should have tried to persuade them that "they should be with the Dems" as Dems have been fighting harder for the common class than the Republicans.
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11/26/2016 6:59:53 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 6:49:33 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:15:40 PM, Fernyx wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Donald won because Hillary was so bad, he got less votes than the last 2 republican candidates.

Hillary Clinton was a weak candidate. But, so was Donald Trump.

Instead of calling Trump supporters "deplorable", she should have tried to persuade them that "they should be with the Dems" as Dems have been fighting harder for the common class than the Republicans.

Donald was weak, hence why he got less votes than the republicans before him, but evidently Hillary was extraordinarily weak.
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11/26/2016 7:07:14 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 6:36:53 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:08:32 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:06:06 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Which is exactly what he is

Prove it.

This is exactly what the "elites" want you to argue about. They want people divided on racism, ect., so no one is questioning why Trump is giving cabinet positions to his friends and cronies instead of the best man for the job, why Trump has asked foreign countries to give his projects the green light to proceed, and why tax payers will pay the Trump Organization $3 Million so security can rent space in his tower, and why Trump's policies will favor this rich elite.

Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.
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11/26/2016 7:12:01 PM
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This wasn't some conspiracy theory; it was just some dude took a break from political correctness, and so giving voice to deep resentment within the community. I'm really, really sick of people ascribing intentionality to sht like this. Donald Trump is a clown, not some Illuminati plant, not some banker's plan.

But yes, the most effective politics is politics that sets people apart, or tries to bring people together - politics that focuses on the people. Nobody's voting for the best economic policy. Nobody's voting for anything at all to just do with... fck it I can't even think of anything past economic policy, and nobody's voting for that. People elect wartime generals, or messianic figures - that's it.

People aren't ever going to get along, and that doesn't mean the elites are going to stay in power. Nobody's managing this sht show to be a sht show, it's just a sht show. Donald Trump is not an "elite".
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/26/2016 7:12:42 PM
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At 11/26/2016 6:45:21 PM, Death23 wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

https://www.youtube.com...

https://www.youtube.com...

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

"It was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Commission, who documented that black people were told no apartments were available in Trump properties while white testers at the same time were immediately offered apartments. In a sampling of 10 Trump buildings, only 1 to 3.5 percent of the occupants were minorities, making it one of the strongest cases the Justice Department had ever seen for violations of the Fair Housing Act."

The conclusion that Trump is a sexist, bigot, racist etc. is supported by the available evidence.

Lol, it proves he is very free with his mouth..like this...

http://static.comicvine.com...

Which most people just don't think is that bad of a thing.

However, this would be an actual bad action the people would care about, which was never proven:

http://hyperallergic.com...
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11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:07:14 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:36:53 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:08:32 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:06:06 PM, mc9 wrote:
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

Which is exactly what he is

Prove it.

This is exactly what the "elites" want you to argue about. They want people divided on racism, ect., so no one is questioning why Trump is giving cabinet positions to his friends and cronies instead of the best man for the job, why Trump has asked foreign countries to give his projects the green light to proceed, and why tax payers will pay the Trump Organization $3 Million so security can rent space in his tower, and why Trump's policies will favor this rich elite.

Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?
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11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM
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At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.
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11/26/2016 7:18:32 PM
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At 11/26/2016 7:12:01 PM, Devilry wrote:
This wasn't some conspiracy theory; it was just some dude took a break from political correctness, and so giving voice to deep resentment within the community. I'm really, really sick of people ascribing intentionality to sht like this. Donald Trump is a clown, not some Illuminati plant, not some banker's plan.

But yes, the most effective politics is politics that sets people apart, or tries to bring people together - politics that focuses on the people. Nobody's voting for the best economic policy. Nobody's voting for anything at all to just do with... fck it I can't even think of anything past economic policy, and nobody's voting for that. People elect wartime generals, or messianic figures - that's it.

People aren't ever going to get along, and that doesn't mean the elites are going to stay in power. Nobody's managing this sht show to be a sht show, it's just a sht show. Donald Trump is not an "elite".

That's actually almost completely accurate.

But the true goal of divisiveness is censoring the will of the people. When the room is filled with the screams of angry mobs, trained to scream, nobody can hear those that are quietly starving to death, unheard.
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11/26/2016 7:18:46 PM
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At 11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.

One issue is that Trump supporters wanted him to "drain the swamp". Another is eliminating free trade, another is repealing Obamacare and another is building a wall and making Mexico pay for the wall.

Again, how did the media censor Americans?
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11/26/2016 7:20:22 PM
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At 11/26/2016 7:18:46 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.

One issue is that Trump supporters wanted him to "drain the swamp". Another is eliminating free trade, another is repealing Obamacare and another is building a wall and making Mexico pay for the wall.

Again, how did the media censor Americans?

Well at least you got 1 out of those 3 right, I'm actually impressed you could identify one of them with the blanket the media put on this election. You probably know more why Trump won than the media does.
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11/26/2016 7:20:53 PM
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At 11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.

Trump voters wanted this addressed:

https://youtu.be...
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11/26/2016 7:26:55 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:12:42 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 6:45:21 PM, Death23 wrote:

The conclusion that Trump is a sexist, bigot, racist etc. is supported by the available evidence.

Lol, it proves he is very free with his mouth..like this...

http://static.comicvine.com...

Which most people just don't think is that bad of a thing.

However, this would be an actual bad action the people would care about, which was never proven:

http://hyperallergic.com...

You're saying that Trump's merely "very free with his mouth" and that Trump didn't do an "actual bad action". We know that isn't true because the available evidence indicates that Trump did more than merely run his mouth. Trump was racist in practice with his housing company and Trump admitted to sexually assaulting people.
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11/26/2016 7:28:16 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:20:22 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:18:46 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.

One issue is that Trump supporters wanted him to "drain the swamp". Another is eliminating free trade, another is repealing Obamacare and another is building a wall and making Mexico pay for the wall.

Again, how did the media censor Americans?

Well at least you got 1 out of those 3 right, I'm actually impressed you could identify one of them with the blanket the media put on this election. You probably know more why Trump won than the media does.

I would agree that many Trump supporters do not actually expect Trump to build a Wall and make Mexico pay for the Wall. However, it is Trump that kept repeating this statement over and over. The media just reported what he said. Trump did not want to reveal specific policy because Trump does not know that he is doing and Trump cares more about himself than the common people.

I assume eliminating free trade is the one I got right. Another one would be stopping/slowing down immigration. What is the last one? Conservative Supreme Court Justices?
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11/26/2016 7:32:48 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:28:16 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:20:22 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:18:46 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:14:48 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:12:58 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
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Lol, no, this is what the media wanted the people to argue about, so that the people could be censored. Americans don't particularly enjoy being censored, especially during an election. This thread proves the liberal elites still don't get it, and may not even after 4 years.

How does that censor Americans?

I'll prove it to you. What are the issues a Trump voter wanted Trump to address? I am willing to bet the media censored as much of that talk as possible so that you will be unable to answer this.

One issue is that Trump supporters wanted him to "drain the swamp". Another is eliminating free trade, another is repealing Obamacare and another is building a wall and making Mexico pay for the wall.

Again, how did the media censor Americans?

Well at least you got 1 out of those 3 right, I'm actually impressed you could identify one of them with the blanket the media put on this election. You probably know more why Trump won than the media does.

I would agree that many Trump supporters do not actually expect Trump to build a Wall and make Mexico pay for the Wall. However, it is Trump that kept repeating this statement over and over. The media just reported what he said. Trump did not want to reveal specific policy because Trump does not know that he is doing and Trump cares more about himself than the common people.

I assume eliminating free trade is the one I got right. Another one would be stopping/slowing down immigration. What is the last one? Conservative Supreme Court Justices?

You got the drain the swamp right.
You missed the one about making protections for domestic manufacturing jobs, tariffs or no tariffs it doesn't matter to them.
You missed the one about replacing Obamacare, repeal doesn't matter.
You missed the one about securing the border, wall or no wall, the wall doesn't matter.

The media never got these right so I am not surprised you couldn't either, but getting the "drain the swamp" was impressive.
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11/26/2016 7:39:40 PM
Posted: 1 week ago

You got the drain the swamp right.

So far, Trump has just been making the swamp more swampy.

You missed the one about making protections for domestic manufacturing jobs, tariffs or no tariffs it doesn't matter to them.

The only way to save manufacturing jobs are tariffs and subsidies.

You missed the one about replacing Obamacare, repeal doesn't matter.

That is because Trump has not gone into detail about what he is going to replace it with except that it will be "tremendous". Trump may keep Obamacare.

You missed the one about securing the border, wall or no wall, the wall doesn't matter.

It seems Trump may just keep Obama's policies. Who knows?

The media never got these right so I am not surprised you couldn't either, but getting the "drain the swamp" was impressive.

The media never got it right, because the media just reported what Trump said and Trump never went into detail.
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11/26/2016 8:02:55 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:12:01 PM, Devilry wrote:
This wasn't some conspiracy theory; it was just some dude took a break from political correctness, and so giving voice to deep resentment within the community. I'm really, really sick of people ascribing intentionality to sht like this. Donald Trump is a clown, not some Illuminati plant, not some banker's plan.

I do not think this is a conspiracy (I never said it was). I think Trump is just a power hungry buffoon. However, throughout history there have been many examples of people rallying around a leader who has more interest in himself than the well being of the common man. No one is pulling the strings. It is just a social/political phenomenon that repeats itself form time to time.

But yes, the most effective politics is politics that sets people apart, or tries to bring people together - politics that focuses on the people. Nobody's voting for the best economic policy. Nobody's voting for anything at all to just do with... fck it I can't even think of anything past economic policy, and nobody's voting for that. People elect wartime generals, or messianic figures - that's it.

People aren't ever going to get along, and that doesn't mean the elites are going to stay in power. Nobody's managing this sht show to be a sht show, it's just a sht show. Donald Trump is not an "elite".

Trump was born into great wealth and has been a member of elite social circles his whole life. Trump has never shown any care for the common man before he ran. All he did was hang with celebrities and politicians like the Clinton's. If Trump is not elite, than no one is elite.

It is much easier for the elites to stay in power when they can feed the voters nationalism, manufactured outrage and create an enemy instead of policies that improve their lives. It is much easier for Trump to find someone for his voters to blame than to actually create meaningful change and policy. Trump would rather "pretend" to be anti-corruption while using the Presidency to boost his business than to actually be ethical.
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11/26/2016 8:12:55 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 7:39:40 PM, twocupcakes wrote:

You realise your politics is exactly divisive politics, right? Trump is a normal old dude, one who just happens to have a lot of money. He's not an "elite".
: : : At 11/15/2016 6:22:17 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
: That's not racism. Thats economics.
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11/26/2016 8:21:18 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/26/2016 8:12:55 PM, Devilry wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:39:40 PM, twocupcakes wrote:

You realise your politics is exactly divisive politics, right? Trump is a normal old dude, one who just happens to have a lot of money. He's not an "elite".

You think Trump is just a normal old guy? Trump was born into extreme wealth. His family pulled strings to get him into an Ivy League school. He was always well connected, he pretty much was groomed to inherit his father's business. Trump only spent time with celebrities, and had no idea what it is like to be a common man. He is filling positions with his cronies, friends and family. If Trump is not elite than who is?

How are my politics exactly divisive politics? I am making the case in this thread that people should stop focusing on Trump's rhetoric but his actions.
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11/28/2016 1:55:23 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/26/2016 5:29:37 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 11/26/2016 4:36:51 PM, twocupcakes wrote:
Donald Trump won this election through divisiveness. This is a classing weapon that the "elites" use to stay in power. Donald Trump created so much anger between different groups of the common class that people failed to recognize what Donald Trump actually is.

This is what the elites like. They want to put the whites against the minorities, the Christians against the Muslims, the non-immigrants against the immigrants, ect. This keeps the common class content so they turn a blind eye to the cronyism, corruption, and rules that favor the already rich and powerful. The "elites" keep all the money and power while the common people do all of the work.


I find this Lyndon B Johnson quote to be extremely relevant to the most recent election.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

http://www.snopes.com...

People have to find a way to get along. Otherwise, the elites will stay in power.

Trump didn't create division, the media did by painting him as a racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, etc.

I still can't believe people like you defend the notion that ethnicity is a solid reason to disqualify a judge on a case simply because a defendant feels he won't get a fair trial for over reaching stereotypes he made public about Mexicans.
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11/28/2016 3:30:18 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/26/2016 8:12:55 PM, Devilry wrote:
At 11/26/2016 7:39:40 PM, twocupcakes wrote:

You realise your politics is exactly divisive politics, right? Trump is a normal old dude, one who just happens to have a lot of money. He's not an "elite".

he also things Trump is doing it for the money and last I heard he isn't taking the $400k per year which after 4 years would be 1.2m salary so doesn't make much sense to me. Whether he won or lost he can/could have made a ton from writing another book imo and possibly doing speeches.