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Is the US now at war with Russia?

Geogeer
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12/1/2016 5:38:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Turkey, a NATO member, has declared war on Syria. Russia is an ally of Syria. Due to the NATO treaty taking effect is the US now in a defacto state of war with Russia?
Quadrunner
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12/2/2016 6:40:31 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/1/2016 5:38:07 PM, Geogeer wrote:
Turkey, a NATO member, has declared war on Syria. Russia is an ally of Syria. Due to the NATO treaty taking effect is the US now in a defacto state of war with f we get into a war over

If Obama does nothing else....I hope he proves me wrong with with Turkey....A war over Syria caused by turkey....I'm sure as hell not gonna risk my mother's tears for that.
Skepsikyma
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12/2/2016 6:54:36 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 12/1/2016 5:38:07 PM, Geogeer wrote:
Turkey, a NATO member, has declared war on Syria. Russia is an ally of Syria. Due to the NATO treaty taking effect is the US now in a defacto state of war with Russia?

Article V shouldn't kick in unless Turkey is attacked. It was only ever successfully invoked over 9/11, and the Syrian government hasn't attacked Turkey in any such capacity. So we aren't obligated to go to war, just as NATO was not obligated to go to war in Iraq.
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