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2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.
Objection!!!! thats baseless conjecture!!
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2/10/2011 12:22:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical.

It is hypocritical.

Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.

I don't know where you live, but suicide is legal in America.

You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Welfare of the populace shouldn't be the government's job anyways.
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2/10/2011 12:58:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Everyone alive is dying. If you aren't alive you can't die and if you are alive you must die. Living causes dying. Living should be illegal.
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2/10/2011 1:36:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 12:58:42 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Everyone alive is dying. If you aren't alive you can't die and if you are alive you must die. Living causes dying. Living should be illegal.

Life is a race towards death, shortcuts should not be allowed.
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2/10/2011 1:53:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?

Because people should be allowed put what they want into their body when they want to.

We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical,

Yes, very hypocritical that the government arbitrarily approves of one substance and dismissed others.

Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.

If smoking is suicide then so is sex and a variety of other things with a possibility of death. Aside from that point, why should people not be allowed commit suicide?

You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

The welfare of the populace isn't as important as the welfare of the individual, which should be decided by the individual.
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2/10/2011 2:14:45 PM
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At 2/10/2011 1:36:09 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:58:42 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Everyone alive is dying. If you aren't alive you can't die and if you are alive you must die. Living causes dying. Living should be illegal.

Life is a race towards death, shortcuts should not be allowed.

Psh if you find a shortcut you should be allowed to exploit it for personal gain.
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2/10/2011 2:32:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 1:36:09 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:58:42 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Everyone alive is dying. If you aren't alive you can't die and if you are alive you must die. Living causes dying. Living should be illegal.

Life is a race towards death, shortcuts should not be allowed.

The inevitably of death doesn't make life a race to it.
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2/10/2011 2:41:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 2:32:08 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 2/10/2011 1:36:09 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:58:42 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 2/10/2011 12:11:22 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
Smoking causes cancer... this is proven, its bad for your lungs and dip cause even worse cancers.
However the US keeps tobacco legal why do we do this?
We won't allow people to use other types of drugs like crack ,heroin,meth,ice,cocaine and etc...
Which are very toxic, yet smoking is legal. Why it seems a little hypocritical, Some might say its a person choice to smoke however we don't allow people to commit suicide which in a sense smoking is kind of like suicide.
You kill yourself over nicotine, your thoughts?
I say its because the U.S makes to much money off of it and they forget welfare of the populace and needs of the government for money.

Everyone alive is dying. If you aren't alive you can't die and if you are alive you must die. Living causes dying. Living should be illegal.

Life is a race towards death, shortcuts should not be allowed.

The inevitably of death doesn't make life a race to it.

it is if you are emo.
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2/10/2011 3:12:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

This.

Sadly, that's the truth. I despise smoking so much...
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2/10/2011 3:14:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 3:12:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

This.

Sadly, that's the truth. I despise smoking so much...

Same here, it just smells so bad.
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2/10/2011 3:18:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 3:14:18 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:12:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

This.

Sadly, that's the truth. I despise smoking so much...

Same here, it just smells so bad.

Mhm.

I told my bf that if he ever started smoking that I would break up with him. I was serious too. It's such a turn-off and something I can't put up with. Thankfully, he pretty much feels the same way. I can't date a smoker, lol.
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2/10/2011 3:21:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 3:18:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:14:18 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:12:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

This.

Sadly, that's the truth. I despise smoking so much...

Same here, it just smells so bad.

Mhm.

I told my bf that if he ever started smoking that I would break up with him. I was serious too. It's such a turn-off and something I can't put up with. Thankfully, he pretty much feels the same way. I can't date a smoker, lol.

I don't think I could either, at the least they'd have to quit fairly quickly.
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2/10/2011 8:22:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 3:18:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:14:18 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:12:56 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

This.

Sadly, that's the truth. I despise smoking so much...

Same here, it just smells so bad.

Mhm.

I told my bf that if he ever started smoking that I would break up with him. I was serious too. It's such a turn-off and something I can't put up with. Thankfully, he pretty much feels the same way. I can't date a smoker, lol.

yeah but theres no attempt at stopping future smoker beside like these stupid commericals and school programs which isnt helping the problem
Objection!!!! thats baseless conjecture!!
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2/10/2011 9:48:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 8:22:50 PM, joshuaXlawyer wrote:
yeah but theres no attempt at stopping future smoker beside like these stupid commericals and school programs which isnt helping the problem

Why should there be an attempt to stop future smokers?
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2/10/2011 10:06:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

You mean, like the drug war we have today?
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2/10/2011 10:09:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/10/2011 10:06:00 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 2/10/2011 2:56:14 PM, Aibohphobia wrote:
Smoking is legal because SO many people smoke. If we tried to ban smoking it would just be a repeat of prohibition.

You mean, like the drug war Mexico is having today?

^I think that'd be more accurate, LOL
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2/11/2011 12:17:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I don't understand why people hate smoking so much. I don't smoke, but I don't mind when people smoke around me at all. It's annoying to breathe in and stuff, but I look at it as their choice, and in a public area, they should be able to do what they want in terms of smoking...
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2/11/2011 12:19:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 12:17:12 AM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
I don't understand why people hate smoking so much. I don't smoke, but I don't mind when people smoke around me at all. It's annoying to breathe in and stuff, but I look at it as their choice, and in a public area, they should be able to do what they want in terms of smoking...

*smokes some nerve gas next to atheistallegiance*
*also sneezes on him without even attempting to cover mouth*
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2/11/2011 12:21:40 AM
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That said, it's probably impractical to enforce smoking laws beyond at most "if a cop sees you do it get a ticket)-- and certainly OP's grounds are terrible. Carcinogens should be freely available even if the practical issues are solved, just chew them, drink them, make brownies, snort them, supposit them, inject them, instead of forcing them into other people's lungs.
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2/11/2011 12:32:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 12:17:12 AM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
I don't understand why people hate smoking so much. I don't smoke, but I don't mind when people smoke around me at all. It's annoying to breathe in and stuff, but I look at it as their choice, and in a public area, they should be able to do what they want in terms of smoking...

Seriously? I won't even go near smokers since I get severe reactions from it. Mine are still pretty minor though compared to the reactions asthmatics would get. Using that basis alone, everybody has a right to clean and breathable air that won't suffocate them so yes, I do support the ban in public places. Sure, it's their choice to kill them selves with cigarettes, but it's nobody else's choice if non-smokers are breathing in second-hand smoke they don't want exposure to.
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2/11/2011 1:55:34 AM
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Because people have the right to be stupid as long as it doesnt hurt other people. You can sue a smoker or establishment that permits smoking if it affects you because you are being injured...or you could just not patronize that establishment.

The only reason we have smoking in "public" is due to the tragedy of the commons. The owners of the public areas have 50 million other thing to deal with, so they cant bother with mildly disruptive people. Meanwhile, the owners of stores in a strip mall would ban smoking on their sidewalk because they want nonsmoker patrons to be happy and they dont want to clean up litter on their sidewalk.
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2/11/2011 1:57:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 12:17:12 AM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
I don't understand why people hate smoking so much. I don't smoke, but I don't mind when people smoke around me at all. It's annoying to breathe in and stuff, but I look at it as their choice, and in a public area, they should be able to do what they want in terms of smoking...

Lol, never thought I'd agree with you... ^_^

THIS. Plus, as a smoker, I feel the need to defend my kind.
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
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2/11/2011 2:07:50 AM
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At 2/11/2011 1:57:49 AM, annhasle wrote:
THIS. Plus, as a smoker, I feel the need to defend my kind.

smokerrrrrrrrr!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! burnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2/11/2011 2:08:11 AM
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At 2/10/2011 3:18:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I told my bf that if he ever started smoking that I would break up with him. I was serious too. It's such a turn-off and something I can't put up with. Thankfully, he pretty much feels the same way. I can't date a smoker, lol.

He doesnt need to smoke. He has you. <3
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2/11/2011 2:10:06 AM
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At 2/11/2011 2:07:50 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 2/11/2011 1:57:49 AM, annhasle wrote:
THIS. Plus, as a smoker, I feel the need to defend my kind.

smokerrrrrrrrr!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! burnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't make me cough on you. -___-
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
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2/11/2011 2:18:20 AM
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At 2/11/2011 2:08:11 AM, juvanya wrote:
At 2/10/2011 3:18:30 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I told my bf that if he ever started smoking that I would break up with him. I was serious too. It's such a turn-off and something I can't put up with. Thankfully, he pretty much feels the same way. I can't date a smoker, lol.

He doesnt need to smoke. He has you. <3

Aww. :) <3