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3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.
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3/3/2011 11:39:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.

Well, I'm not a right winger, and in the current economy, I actually lean left (since I'm a big fatty socialist economically speaking). But I don't think that it should matter if they are Atheist or Muslim, so long as those beliefs are not what are guiding their policy. Their religious belief, or lack there of, should be out of the picture, and I only care if their religion is getting involved, not which religion it is.
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3/3/2011 12:40:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 11:39:16 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.

Well, I'm not a right winger, and in the current economy, I actually lean left (since I'm a big fatty socialist economically speaking). But I don't think that it should matter if they are Atheist or Muslim, so long as those beliefs are not what are guiding their policy. Their religious belief, or lack there of, should be out of the picture, and I only care if their religion is getting involved, not which religion it is.

You dont think a persons core beliefs should show in there actions? That we should say one thing about what we think and act in a contrary way to what we say we believe on purpose? or is it just someone with political power who should act as a hippocrite since we have come to expect this from our politicians anyway?
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3/3/2011 1:00:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At this point, if he was into witchcraft He would be electable, if he could get the economy under control. Voters are getting desperate.
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3/3/2011 1:37:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 12:40:46 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:39:16 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.

Well, I'm not a right winger, and in the current economy, I actually lean left (since I'm a big fatty socialist economically speaking). But I don't think that it should matter if they are Atheist or Muslim, so long as those beliefs are not what are guiding their policy. Their religious belief, or lack there of, should be out of the picture, and I only care if their religion is getting involved, not which religion it is.

You dont think a persons core beliefs should show in there actions? That we should say one thing about what we think and act in a contrary way to what we say we believe on purpose? or is it just someone with political power who should act as a hippocrite since we have come to expect this from our politicians anyway?

That's a strawman arguement. I never said that they should not show in their actions, they should not show in their political actions. If a president wants to go to church and pray before each meal, that is their own choice. That should have no influence on what kind of tax structure they should believe in.
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3/3/2011 1:43:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 1:37:25 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 12:40:46 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:39:16 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.

Well, I'm not a right winger, and in the current economy, I actually lean left (since I'm a big fatty socialist economically speaking). But I don't think that it should matter if they are Atheist or Muslim, so long as those beliefs are not what are guiding their policy. Their religious belief, or lack there of, should be out of the picture, and I only care if their religion is getting involved, not which religion it is.

You dont think a persons core beliefs should show in there actions? That we should say one thing about what we think and act in a contrary way to what we say we believe on purpose? or is it just someone with political power who should act as a hippocrite since we have come to expect this from our politicians anyway?

That's a strawman arguement. I never said that they should not show in their actions, they should not show in their political actions. If a president wants to go to church and pray before each meal, that is their own choice. That should have no influence on what kind of tax structure they should believe in.

This.
If the president is muslim then you would expect them to act as a muslim, and to not drink, not eat pork, and to go to mosque.
I would NOT support a prohibition, or dress code, or ban on "unholy" food.

I wouldn't mind if it was a jew doing jew stuff so long as they stay out of my life.

As a leader, religious or not, you must understand that your personal preferences and religion have no bearing on how others should be allowed to live.

I am against makeup, for example, its one of my core beliefs. I can't stand people that wear it/like it.
I wouldn't ban it, no matter how much power I had.
I think people need to live/believe like that more.
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3/3/2011 2:36:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 11:39:16 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.

Well, I'm not a right winger, and in the current economy, I actually lean left (since I'm a big fatty socialist economically speaking). But I don't think that it should matter if they are Atheist or Muslim, so long as those beliefs are not what are guiding their policy. Their religious belief, or lack there of, should be out of the picture, and I only care if their religion is getting involved, not which religion it is.

Just about every religion has a stance on political and economic issues. Even Taoism (Anarchist leanings).

And it would be absurd to say religion doesn't influence how people think.
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3/3/2011 2:57:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.:

I lean to the left on social issues, but to the right on fiscal issues. I would much rather have an atheist president.
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3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.
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3/3/2011 3:52:46 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Read my previous post that explains why.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.
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3/3/2011 3:57:38 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:52:46 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Read my previous post that explains why.

It's all really a moot point anyway, right?
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3/3/2011 4:00:01 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:57:38 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:52:46 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Read my previous post that explains why.

It's all really a moot point anyway, right?

Get back to the health section innomen!
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3/3/2011 4:00:59 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

This.
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3/3/2011 4:10:39 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

"Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.
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3/3/2011 4:36:24 PM
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At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

Putting aside religion = being a hypocrit. Why? Because "putting aside your religion" is just a nice way of saying you will perform acts contrary to what your relgion says.

So great! Religion shouldn't matter so long as the politicians are required to be hypocrites!
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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3/3/2011 4:37:51 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

Putting aside religion = being a hypocrit. Why? Because "putting aside your religion" is just a nice way of saying you will perform acts contrary to what your relgion says.

So great! Religion shouldn't matter so long as the politicians are required to be hypocrites!

Aren't they already? :P
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
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3/3/2011 4:40:25 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:37:51 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

Putting aside religion = being a hypocrit. Why? Because "putting aside your religion" is just a nice way of saying you will perform acts contrary to what your relgion says.

So great! Religion shouldn't matter so long as the politicians are required to be hypocrites!

Aren't they already? :P

shhh don't say that out loud.
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3/3/2011 4:42:45 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

Putting aside religion = being a hypocrit. Why? Because "putting aside your religion" is just a nice way of saying you will perform acts contrary to what your relgion says.

So great! Religion shouldn't matter so long as the politicians are required to be hypocrites!

To be fair, in secular states you're not really supposed to mix religion and politics anyway.
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3/3/2011 4:45:13 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:42:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
To be fair, in secular states you're not really supposed to mix religion and politics anyway.

But as soon as someone starts saying this is a secular state (in the U.S. at least), all the right-wing "this is a Christian nation!" b!tching starts :P
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3/3/2011 4:46:48 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:45:13 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:42:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
To be fair, in secular states you're not really supposed to mix religion and politics anyway.

But as soon as someone starts saying this is a secular state (in the U.S. at least), all the right-wing "this is a Christian nation!" b!tching starts :P

Not here in Canada, lol. Our parliament is pretty multi-cultural. In the US, not so much, lol.
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3/3/2011 4:50:37 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:46:48 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:45:13 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:42:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
To be fair, in secular states you're not really supposed to mix religion and politics anyway.

But as soon as someone starts saying this is a secular state (in the U.S. at least), all the right-wing "this is a Christian nation!" b!tching starts :P

Not here in Canada, lol. Our parliament is pretty multi-cultural. In the US, not so much, lol.

So that's why people here are always ripping on Canadians? XD
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3/3/2011 4:52:35 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:50:37 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:46:48 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:45:13 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 4:42:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
To be fair, in secular states you're not really supposed to mix religion and politics anyway.

But as soon as someone starts saying this is a secular state (in the U.S. at least), all the right-wing "this is a Christian nation!" b!tching starts :P

Not here in Canada, lol. Our parliament is pretty multi-cultural. In the US, not so much, lol.

So that's why people here are always ripping on Canadians? XD

We have way less christian fundamentalist nuts. Enough said. It's quite relieving actually although my town is full of them, argh. I'm moving asap though.
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3/3/2011 5:23:49 PM
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At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.
One who will rule democratically? By definition, one who rules by what people want. If an atheist is going to rule much better than a Muslim, then it is only logical to pick him as president. But if they can both do good, I think my personality would most likely connect to the Muslim, and I would want him for president.
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3/3/2011 5:24:46 PM
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At 3/3/2011 5:23:49 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2011 11:32:13 AM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
To all Republicans and/or any right leaning (insert political party here), would you rather see a President that is atheist or a President that is Muslim? I'm really intrigued to hear these responses.
But if they can both do good, I think my personality would most likely connect to the Muslim, and I would want him for president.

We're all shocked. ;)
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3/3/2011 5:26:54 PM
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At 3/3/2011 4:36:24 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:56:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:48:36 PM, jmar8542 wrote:
At 3/3/2011 3:46:27 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Who f*cking cares what their religion is as long as they can do their job?

Religion matters if it will affect how they do their job.

That has to do with if it affects their job. There are plenty of christians, jews, muslims, witches, etc who can put aside their religion for the overall well being and liberty of the nation.

Putting aside religion = being a hypocrit. Why? Because "putting aside your religion" is just a nice way of saying you will perform acts contrary to what your relgion says.

So great! Religion shouldn't matter so long as the politicians are required to be hypocrites!

So everyone is either prejudiced or a hypocrite?

Wouldn't your argument stay the same even if we were talking about racism or sexism or ageism or any other type of discrimination? And thus, according to you, it is impossible for anyone in a leadership position to take any stand on on any human rights issue without being either biased or dishonest. It's a no win situation.