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4/26/2011 11:40:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

A lot of religions have ceremonies that don't discriminate against it. The Celtic handfast ceremony, for instance.

And I'm not sure what you mean by 'legitimacy.' Legally, a handful of states in the U.S. recognize gay marriage, if that is what you are asking.
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4/26/2011 11:44:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Depends on what country you're talking about. If it's Saudi Arabia then the answer is yes. If it's the United States then the answer is that it's not supposed to according to the Constitution but a bunch of @ssholes think they have the right to force their religion on everyone.
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4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.
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4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.
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4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.
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4/27/2011 12:41:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

They were too busy stoning people to death for being gay to really be concerned about whether or not they'd be married.
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4/27/2011 12:45:17 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

No. It's pretty much just the Abrahamic faiths that place a taboo on it. Also, secular laws are generally supposed to over-ride religious laws anyway.
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4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......
Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......
Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......
Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......
1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......
Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......
Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......
Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......
Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

And...
http://www.biblegateway.com......

http://www.biblegateway.com......

http://www.biblegateway.com......

http://www.biblegateway.com......

http://www.biblegateway.com......

Need any more?
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4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.
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4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.
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4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.
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4/27/2011 1:21:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

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4/27/2011 1:25:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:21:01 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

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I don't think that the idiotic goat herders who wrote the Bible were for gay marriage, but they didn't write a single verse against it. I just love how conservative nut jobs think the Bible says one lick about gay marriage. Really, as long as I remain celibate, I can marry any guy I want and I'm within the confounds of bronze-age, homophobic, and barbaric rule book.
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4/27/2011 1:25:31 AM
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At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

Hmm...so going solely by the Bible technically two gay people could be married, but remain chaste? O.o
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4/27/2011 1:26:10 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm going to debate this. Seems fun and an easy win.
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4/27/2011 1:31:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

For one thing your parents have had sex the proof of which is you.

Those versus do easily condemn gay marriage. I do not see how they don't. And I am sure most married gays have sex at one point or another. If the Bible is so clearly strong against homosexuality that is substantial evidence that it is against gay marriage. Why do you ask for more evidence if it's obviously against it?
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4/27/2011 1:36:44 AM
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Also back then I think if you married someone you always had sex.

And Moses would not write laws against marriage specifically, because gay marriage would never have happened for an Israelite. But sex might.
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4/27/2011 1:38:28 AM
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At 4/27/2011 1:31:13 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

For one thing your parents have had sex the proof of which is you.

Those versus do easily condemn gay marriage. I do not see how they don't. And I am sure most married gays have sex at one point or another. If the Bible is so clearly strong against homosexuality that is substantial evidence that it is against gay marriage. Why do you ask for more evidence if it's obviously against it?

This is my original post.

"Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage."

The Bible has not mentioned even one time anything at all about gay marriage. The challenge is still open to bring one verse. If you can do so I will admit defeat. I posted this as a debate in the challenge period if you're interested.
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4/27/2011 1:40:54 AM
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I accepted... sorry if I wasn't the intended person!

I don't care who accepts really.
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4/27/2011 1:51:52 AM
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At 4/27/2011 1:38:28 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:31:13 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

For one thing your parents have had sex the proof of which is you.

Those versus do easily condemn gay marriage. I do not see how they don't. And I am sure most married gays have sex at one point or another. If the Bible is so clearly strong against homosexuality that is substantial evidence that it is against gay marriage. Why do you ask for more evidence if it's obviously against it?

This is my original post.

"Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage."

The Bible has not mentioned even one time anything at all about gay marriage. The challenge is still open to bring one verse. If you can do so I will admit defeat. I posted this as a debate in the challenge period if you're interested.

Why does it matter if it specifically mentions it. This isn't a debate there's no need for semantics. I think I showed that the Bible is against it. But whether it specifically mentions gay marriage I am not sure.
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4/27/2011 1:53:15 AM
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At 4/27/2011 1:51:52 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:38:28 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:31:13 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

For one thing your parents have had sex the proof of which is you.

Those versus do easily condemn gay marriage. I do not see how they don't. And I am sure most married gays have sex at one point or another. If the Bible is so clearly strong against homosexuality that is substantial evidence that it is against gay marriage. Why do you ask for more evidence if it's obviously against it?

This is my original post.

"Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage."

The Bible has not mentioned even one time anything at all about gay marriage. The challenge is still open to bring one verse. If you can do so I will admit defeat. I posted this as a debate in the challenge period if you're interested.

Why does it matter if it specifically mentions it. This isn't a debate there's no need for semantics. I think I showed that the Bible is against it. But whether it specifically mentions gay marriage I am not sure.

Don't say the Bible is against gay marriage if you're not sure.
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4/27/2011 2:01:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:53:15 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:51:52 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:38:28 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:31:13 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:20:38 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:17:57 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 1:09:52 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:45:36 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:41:16 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.

No problem.

Oops didn't mean to do this in two posts but here goes.

Genesis 2:24, http://www.biblegateway.com......

References men marrying women. Doesn't say anything about whether they're allowed to be married.

Leviticus 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Says that gay sex is bad, not that gay marriage is bad.

Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Same as before, sex not marriage.

Romans 1:25-128 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Again, says absolutely nothing about marriage.

1 Kings 14:24 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Speaks against prostitution, nothing about marriage.

Genesis 13:11-15 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Talks about how long Shelah lived for.

Genesis 19:1-10http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of marriage whatsoever.

Genesis 18:23-50 http://www.biblegateway.com......

No mention of gay marriage.

Deut. 23: 17 http://www.biblegateway.com......

Against prostitution, no mention of marriage.

Need any more?

I would like just one.

So God is against two men having sex but he's okay with two men marrying?

Just because it doesn't specifically mention marriage doesn't mean it's against it.

You asked me to show one verse in the Bible that is against gay marriage. I think if it says a man shall be put to death for sleeping with another man that is plenty of evidence that the bible is against gay marriage.

Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.

For one thing your parents have had sex the proof of which is you.

Those versus do easily condemn gay marriage. I do not see how they don't. And I am sure most married gays have sex at one point or another. If the Bible is so clearly strong against homosexuality that is substantial evidence that it is against gay marriage. Why do you ask for more evidence if it's obviously against it?

This is my original post.

"Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage."

The Bible has not mentioned even one time anything at all about gay marriage. The challenge is still open to bring one verse. If you can do so I will admit defeat. I posted this as a debate in the challenge period if you're interested.

Why does it matter if it specifically mentions it. This isn't a debate there's no need for semantics. I think I showed that the Bible is against it. But whether it specifically mentions gay marriage I am not sure.

Don't say the Bible is against gay marriage if you're not sure.

I am sure.
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4/27/2011 2:13:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 1:26:10 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I'm going to debate this. Seems fun and an easy win.

I viewed your debate. It has too much room for semantics I think. It's an interesting topic though.
I would prefer to debate whether the bible is against gay marriage, rather than debate whether the bible specifically condemns gay marriage.
Also there would need to be a clear definition of what gay marriage is.

Do you think think the bible is not against gay marriage if sex is involved. If so I would definitely debate that.
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4/27/2011 2:23:03 AM
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To it to be a marriage, you technically have to consummate it. This invariably involves hot dickings.
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4/27/2011 4:42:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/27/2011 12:39:12 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 4/27/2011 12:33:09 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

Note sure what exactly your asking but the bible sure is against it.

Show one verse where the Bible says anything against gay marriage.
Argument from silence. The Bible forbids fornication. It permits only sex within marriage. Marriage is only valid between a man and a woman (or more women).
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4/27/2011 8:10:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Being married does not necessarily mean sex. Just ask my parents. I asked for a single verse in the Bible which specifically condemns gay marriage, not gay sex, not prostitution, and not how long some random person named Shelah lived for.:

There is no verse on gay marriage, just like there is no verse on marriage between humans and sheep. At most, the verses say don't have sex with men if you're a man, and don't have sex with sheep.

This is nothing more than semantics. You have to remember that to these people living in that time, it was inconceivable to accept it as anything less than an abomination.
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4/27/2011 10:12:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/26/2011 7:29:59 PM, comoncents wrote:
Does religion have a true monopoly on it?

Does religion speak to a gay life style, and does it have legitimacy?

It's ever so simple: God creates woman for man.. satan inverts that Truth to the only options availabe; man with man, woman with woman, man with child, man with animal etc..
The Cross.. the Cross.