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Harris- Psychopathy of divine command theory

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5/11/2011 3:01:24 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/10/2011 11:59:22 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
If an omni-max God exists - it psychopathic to accept their commands?


Not exactly Harris argument. You wouldn't accept the slaughter of children and so forth as anything but morally abhorant, but if "God" tells you too, well then its ok.

Even if a powerful being told you to do such a thing, how do you know its a morally good being telling you to do a morally good thing ?

A morally good being would tell you their instruction are good, but so would an evil being. So.....how are you going to tell ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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5/11/2011 9:08:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/11/2011 3:01:24 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:

At 5/10/2011 11:59:22 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
If an omni-max God exists - it psychopathic to accept their commands?

Not exactly Harris argument. You wouldn't accept the slaughter of children and so forth as anything but morally abhorant, but if "God" tells you too, well then its ok.

This is where Harris shows complete ignorance of divine command theory and shows himself to be one of the ignorant "new atheists" that William Craig is always referencing. There are many answers to this problem in current theology, asking his question is like saying that since Netwon's theory of gravitation can not account for large mass distortion of light (lensing) that the scientific method is flawed and people who accept it are psychopathic as we know lensing occurs. Well yeah, but current gravitational theory is not Newon's, no one advocates that any more.
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5/11/2011 9:11:34 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/11/2011 3:01:24 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:

A morally good being would tell you their instruction are good, but so would an evil being. So.....how are you going to tell ?

You can not witness through an evil being. All of these questions, which are perfectly valid, should never be asked by someone like Harris as it shows he is ignorant of even basic theology. Again it would be like William Lane Craig arguing principles of how science is flawed by citing how Phrenology predicts behavior.
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5/11/2011 7:01:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/11/2011 9:11:34 AM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 5/11/2011 3:01:24 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:

A morally good being would tell you their instruction are good, but so would an evil being. So.....how are you going to tell ?

You can not witness through an evil being.

What does this mean ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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5/11/2011 7:50:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/11/2011 7:48:17 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
It means you can be influenced by Satan, but you know it is Satan. You can only witness (experience divine command) from God.

How so ? :)
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12