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Phoenix_Reaper
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5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.
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tkubok
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5/12/2011 4:03:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I saw this movie a long time ago. Not only is this child abuse and sickening, I found it funny how they were praying to a cutout of george bush.

This is what I imagine Godsands and Datcmotos childhood was like.
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5/12/2011 7:29:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Sounds similar to a German Nazi brainwashing camp to me.
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5/12/2011 7:33:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I heard of that. Its kinda sickening. I'm likely being forced into a christian camp this summer since I came out as a pansexual atheist in the past year. -sigh- happy happy joy joy
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Cliff.Stamp
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5/12/2011 8:06:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 7:33:16 PM, lovelife wrote:

I heard of that. Its kinda sickening. I'm likely being forced into a christian camp this summer since I came out as a pansexual atheist in the past year. -sigh- happy happy joy joy

It does not need to be negative if you have any interest in journalism, writing, etc. . Log the event in any way you can and write about it when it is over. You could always try active logging while you are there but that is likely to escalate the conflict rapidly which would not be a good idea unless you actually liked the conflict.
tkubok
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5/13/2011 11:34:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 8:06:07 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 5/12/2011 7:33:16 PM, lovelife wrote:

I heard of that. Its kinda sickening. I'm likely being forced into a christian camp this summer since I came out as a pansexual atheist in the past year. -sigh- happy happy joy joy


It does not need to be negative if you have any interest in journalism, writing, etc. . Log the event in any way you can and write about it when it is over. You could always try active logging while you are there but that is likely to escalate the conflict rapidly which would not be a good idea unless you actually liked the conflict.

More than that, if you want to actively discuss and debate christianity, god, etc with the youth counsellor/pastor etc, that can always be enjoyable.

Challenge them, decimate them, and if you're lucky, they will send you home :)

If you're unlucky, though, they may tie you to the bed and try to excorsize you. :(
Koopin
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5/13/2011 11:54:51 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I saw the whole movie and it was sad. Pentecostalism can be dangerous. I burned it and showed it at my church. My youth pastor's wife went to one of those churches. Give other Christians a bad rep.
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5/13/2011 4:22:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 7:55:54 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Was this from the movie, if so what was going on :

No, but the following is a clip of what could only be described as spiritual terrorism and indoctrination.
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tkubok
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5/13/2011 7:34:24 PM
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At 5/13/2011 4:48:56 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
She has a point, you should not really make a hero out of a warlock, they taste horrible.

Hitler wasnt a warlock, but when the communists boiled and ate him, he tasted horrible too.
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5/13/2011 10:08:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

I have to admit that I don't agree with this type of religion.

This is why I pulled my children out o the first church my wife started going to as we began our journey towards God.

I remember the evening I knew. The preacher had one of the young girls of another couple stand up front with arms raised TRYING to babble senseless words. After twenty minutes I had had all I could stand. I headed up front to stop it but I was cut off by two "deacons". I was escorted from the church and none of us have went back since.

I hope atheists understand that not ALL religion is like this.
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DATCMOTO
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5/14/2011 5:24:44 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

Devotion is only as good as the object of devotion; Al quaeda=bad object.. Jesus=GOOD object..
The Cross.. the Cross.
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5/15/2011 1:53:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 10:08:27 PM, jharry wrote:
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

I have to admit that I don't agree with this type of religion.

This is why I pulled my children out o the first church my wife started going to as we began our journey towards God.

I remember the evening I knew. The preacher had one of the young girls of another couple stand up front with arms raised TRYING to babble senseless words. After twenty minutes I had had all I could stand. I headed up front to stop it but I was cut off by two "deacons". I was escorted from the church and none of us have went back since.

I hope atheists understand that not ALL religion is like this.

I had a friend who was a charismatic. His church was a bit like that. Not nearly as bad as that video though. He told me his pastor raised people out of wheel chairs and did other stuff like that. He said the pastor was on TV every Sunday so I watched a bit to see what it was like. It involved a lot of singing and raising your arms in the air.

But yeah most Christians are not like that at all.
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Cliff.Stamp
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5/15/2011 3:40:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 7:34:24 PM, tkubok wrote:

Hitler wasnt a warlock, but when the communists boiled and ate him, he tasted horrible too.

Boiling is a horrible way to cook meats anyway, especially if by boil you actually mean the water is at a full boil, but even searing and simmering which is leagues better still produces inferior results to baking, frying, etc. . They would have had better results if they let the meat set for awhile, and then smoked/seasoned it. That is the best way to prepare carnivore or omnivore meats.
Cliff.Stamp
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5/15/2011 3:47:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 10:08:27 PM, jharry wrote:

The preacher had one of the young girls of another couple stand up front with arms raised TRYING to babble senseless words.

Their intentions are good, they are trying to get the kids to experience witness of the holy spirit, but the practice is flawed. Here is the most common outcome; one child will fake it for any number of reasons, everyone participant then either has to face the fact that they are either not good enough for they fake it. Children then learn they will get rewarded by faking a connection with God. Lovely intentions, horrible results.
tkubok
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5/15/2011 4:32:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/15/2011 3:40:33 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 5/13/2011 7:34:24 PM, tkubok wrote:

Hitler wasnt a warlock, but when the communists boiled and ate him, he tasted horrible too.

Boiling is a horrible way to cook meats anyway, especially if by boil you actually mean the water is at a full boil, but even searing and simmering which is leagues better still produces inferior results to baking, frying, etc. . They would have had better results if they let the meat set for awhile, and then smoked/seasoned it. That is the best way to prepare carnivore or omnivore meats.

Actually, they boil the rib bones before they bake them, which allows the meat to come off the bones much easier. Since someone like Hitler will have a lot of bones, boiling may allow the meat to separate from the bones much easier.
Cliff.Stamp
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5/15/2011 5:01:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/15/2011 4:32:53 PM, tkubok wrote:

Actually, they boil the rib bones before they bake them, which allows the meat to come off the bones much easier. Since someone like Hitler will have a lot of bones, boiling may allow the meat to separate from the bones much easier.

Don't tell me that is the only way you have eaten ribs? That is a crime. You need to get your hands on some slow low temperature roasting, ideally over a covered in fire pit where the entire animal is roasted (takes the better part of a day). This is a slow cook and the meat will literally fall off the bones and there is no boiling which will leach out the taste and toughen the meat. If I was going to cook a boney old guy like Hitler for someone that wanted decent ribs then it would definitely be a full day covered in roast, I would still hang the meat to tenderize it first though.
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5/15/2011 5:01:13 PM
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At 5/14/2011 5:24:44 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

Devotion is only as good as the object of devotion; Al quaeda=bad object.. Jesus=GOOD object..

Lmao

That seems a bit relative, don't ya think?
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
Phoenix_Reaper
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5/15/2011 6:13:18 PM
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At 5/15/2011 5:01:13 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 5/14/2011 5:24:44 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

Devotion is only as good as the object of devotion; Al quaeda=bad object.. Jesus=GOOD object..

Lmao

That seems a bit relative, don't ya think?

Why ma'am! 1 + 1 = 2 while 2 + 2 = -4
Phoenix Reaper - To rise from the ashes of defeat and claim your soul.

: At 3/15/2011 4:23:07 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
: Taste is for pussïes. Be a nihilist. Drink vodka.
Gileandos
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5/15/2011 9:23:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Lol, no one has yet to question the veracity of this "documentary". If it is the same creators as Zeitgeist and those documentaries that followed I would not put too much stock in it.

I could walk around harlem with the "N" Word pasted on my forehead and paint all black people as aggressive as I videotaped their repeated assaults on me.

- Remember Michael Moore who showed up with a Camera for 5 minutes in the "worst" crime neighborhood and street in the U.S. and said, "see, everything is fine here."
I credit everyone in the human race with far more intellect than to mug someone with a giant camera following him, yet he had the audacity to make that claim... on camera.

I do not believe this camp was painted in the correct light.
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5/16/2011 5:43:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/15/2011 9:23:57 PM, Gileandos wrote:
Lol, no one has yet to question the veracity of this "documentary". If it is the same creators as Zeitgeist and those documentaries that followed I would not put too much stock in it.

I could walk around harlem with the "N" Word pasted on my forehead and paint all black people as aggressive as I videotaped their repeated assaults on me.

- Remember Michael Moore who showed up with a Camera for 5 minutes in the "worst" crime neighborhood and street in the U.S. and said, "see, everything is fine here."
I credit everyone in the human race with far more intellect than to mug someone with a giant camera following him, yet he had the audacity to make that claim... on camera.

I do not believe this camp was painted in the correct light.

I am sorry I do not understand your point.

"I could walk around harlem with the "N" Word pasted on my forehead and paint all black people as aggressive as I videotaped their repeated assaults on me."

Except in this film the director is not directly* involved in there exploits.

*to my extent of knowledge
Phoenix Reaper - To rise from the ashes of defeat and claim your soul.

: At 3/15/2011 4:23:07 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
: Taste is for pussïes. Be a nihilist. Drink vodka.
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5/16/2011 6:55:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/15/2011 5:01:13 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 5/14/2011 5:24:44 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/12/2011 3:12:04 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
Have Netflix? Watch this film and tell me what you think.

Jesus Camp

About a camp that is teaching kids to devout themselves to God just like Al Qued is. That is the reason for the camp.

Devotion is only as good as the object of devotion; Al quaeda=bad object.. Jesus=GOOD object..

Lmao

That seems a bit relative, don't ya think?

It's Objective Truth, the only Objective Truth; God is Good, God's Son is God, Jesus is Good.
The Cross.. the Cross.