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5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)
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5/24/2011 10:57:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
God is right over there man..

*points*

Atheists see God all the time. They just don't know it is God because of all the BS that ignorant religious fvcks tell them.

Religious myths about God are what keep more people away from God realization than anything, I'd be willing to wager.
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5/24/2011 11:08:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

1) The Bible is falible and full of contradictions and scientific blunders.
2) We have came to terms with the reality called "Science"! With science we can observe things and see things. At least we don't have to rely on faith to believe in evolution!
3) I was raised in church and was once a Christian.
4) Not as empty and shallow as Xtians!

Ps. Wanna debate on this?
1) Whatever has contradictory attributes does not exist.
2) The Biblical God has contradictory attributes.
3) Therefore, the Biblical God does not exist
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5/24/2011 12:10:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:

How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow.

Many different atheists have different standards for what they require. Dawkin's for example has noted he does not need to see God he just needs to see something obviously divine in origin, he has given a number of examples in various talks. They are usually very dramtic like skywriting which says "Hi, this is Jesus, just letting you know the rapture is around the corner - peace out!", and this appears to everyone in their native language like he translator does in the TARDIS.
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5/24/2011 1:05:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:57:21 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
God is right over there man..

*points*

Atheists see God all the time. They just don't know it is God because of all the BS that ignorant religious fvcks tell them.

Religious myths about God are what keep more people away from God realization than anything, I'd be willing to wager.

So God is the one running my computer? You know the machine that in it's self seems to disprove God. (Because it was made via Science and Research.)
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5/24/2011 1:13:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 1:09:19 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 5/24/2011 1:05:39 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:

So God is the one running my computer?

No that is the devil.

Though the Devil is a made up idea as a scare tactic. Even if you are right than you are using the Devil to do what you please... I will bet my pitiful life that is a sin somehow.
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: At 3/15/2011 4:23:07 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
: Taste is for pussïes. Be a nihilist. Drink vodka.
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5/24/2011 1:51:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 1:13:34 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:

Even if you are right than you are using the Devil to do what you please.

No, I don't use the devil, only heathens do that.
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5/24/2011 1:56:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.

Like this?
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5/24/2011 2:18:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Once your level or awarness has been raised, then your perception changes.
Unless some of you have had an actual experience of something that you deem to be
Godly, then your perception stays the same.
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5/24/2011 2:28:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The only way you can find God is through logic and wisdom...and having faith in your logic and wisdom.

Let me ask you something.... If you were to "see" God how could you true know that it was the one true God and not some other entity posing as the one true God? How would you be able to believe it if you seen it? Because it would be unlike anything you have ever seen? Ok...but how does that prove that it was the True God?

You can't never truly believe in God until believing in God makes sense to you. Seeing an image of something or some powerful being, will not provide this.
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5/24/2011 2:51:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 1:56:58 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth.

Like this?

Lolz. Well, I guess some people are blind and cannot reason like you. Shall we debate?
1) Whatever has contradictory attributes does not exist.
2) The Biblical God has contradictory attributes.
3) Therefore, the Biblical God does not exist
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5/24/2011 5:29:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 1:05:39 PM, Phoenix_Reaper wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:57:21 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
God is right over there man..

*points*

Atheists see God all the time. They just don't know it is God because of all the BS that ignorant religious fvcks tell them.

Religious myths about God are what keep more people away from God realization than anything, I'd be willing to wager.

So God is the one running my computer? You know the machine that in it's self seems to disprove God. (Because it was made via Science and Research.)

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5/24/2011 5:33:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Even if I knew God to be real, I wouldn't love or worship him. Hail Satan.
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5/24/2011 5:35:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 5:33:01 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Even if I knew God to be real, I wouldn't love or worship him. Hail Satan.

The funny thing is, God is totally cool with people worshiping Satan. God can hardly blame them half the time.
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5/24/2011 11:20:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

Please stop posting. You are an ignorant little prick. Just because we do not believe in God does not make us shallow or empty or not spiritual. Spirituality is very different from religiousness. I believe in many things I cannot see like gases, cells, atoms, etc. I just don't believe in things that came about at a time when we did not understand anything about the universe and that has no evidence to say that it is more likely correct and other belief systems wrong.
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5/25/2011 4:50:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

The GIFT of Salvation is given by GRACE to a select few; it is task of the select to SPEND that Grace on those who have not received it; not to judge them, for:

John 3:27
To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.


MERCY is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven; those of us who are rich MUST invest! SO:

Luke 6:27-28
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
The Cross.. the Cross.
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5/25/2011 10:45:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/25/2011 4:50:33 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

The GIFT of Salvation is given by GRACE to a select few; it is task of the select to SPEND that Grace on those who have not received it; not to judge them, for:

John 3:27
To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.


MERCY is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven; those of us who are rich MUST invest! SO:


Luke 6:27-28
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.


Well that wasn't really an argument, nor was it convincing. Your Bible verses mean nothing. Going off of your ridiculous assumptions, doesn't that mean I should give up since I have been chosen not to have grace?
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5/26/2011 6:10:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/25/2011 10:45:22 PM, rogue wrote:
At 5/25/2011 4:50:33 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

The GIFT of Salvation is given by GRACE to a select few; it is task of the select to SPEND that Grace on those who have not received it; not to judge them, for:

John 3:27
To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.


MERCY is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven; those of us who are rich MUST invest! SO:


Luke 6:27-28
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.


Well that wasn't really an argument, nor was it convincing. Your Bible verses mean nothing. Going off of your ridiculous assumptions, doesn't that mean I should give up since I have been chosen not to have grace?

Actually it means you should drop to your knee's and beg God for His mercy (which would seem to me grace in itself) and pray until He forgives you or thrusts you into hell. I will say that there has never been a soul that has asked for forgiveness and not received it :-) DAT your awesome if you are ever in West Palm Beach FL give me a message and we should hang out!
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5/26/2011 10:36:42 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 11:08:08 AM, kohai wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

1) The Bible is falible and full of contradictions and scientific blunders.
2) We have came to terms with the reality called "Science"! With science we can observe things and see things. At least we don't have to rely on faith to believe in evolution!
3) I was raised in church and was once a Christian.
4) Not as empty and shallow as Xtians!

Ps. Wanna debate on this?
thats bull i mean really science...i did not evolve from a fvckin monkey or a leecan or watever you wanna say... I mean seriously im not ptting science down but wtf are scientist thinking they got somethin wrong wit their head
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5/26/2011 10:37:55 AM
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You don't have to ask God for forgiveness, all you really have to do is give the puppy eyes.

God is a big softy.
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5/26/2011 10:39:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 11:20:39 PM, rogue wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

Please stop posting. You are an ignorant little prick. Just because we do not believe in God does not make us shallow or empty or not spiritual. Spirituality is very different from religiousness. I believe in many things I cannot see like gases, cells, atoms, etc. I just don't believe in things that came about at a time when we did not understand anything about the universe and that has no evidence to say that it is more likely correct and other belief systems wrong.

do u understant gases and atoms and wateva else i mean if u dnt understand God and thats the only thing keepin you from him then do u really truelly understand everything u believe in????
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5/26/2011 10:40:30 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/26/2011 10:37:55 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
You don't have to ask God for forgiveness, all you really have to do is give the puppy eyes.

God is a big softy.

until judgement day...
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5/26/2011 10:50:52 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/26/2011 10:40:30 AM, ravynkelley wrote:
At 5/26/2011 10:37:55 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
You don't have to ask God for forgiveness, all you really have to do is give the puppy eyes.

God is a big softy.

until judgement day...

God doesn't set aside a special day for judging. God constantly judges you.

It is a good thing God is aware of how mind numbingly stupid people are, otherwise we'd probably be smitten with cosmic death instead of laughed at like we were part of some elaborate sit-com.
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5/26/2011 11:13:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/25/2011 4:50:33 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

The GIFT of Salvation is given by GRACE to a select few; it is task of the select to SPEND that Grace on those who have not received it; not to judge them, for:

John 3:27
To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.


MERCY is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven; those of us who are rich MUST invest! SO:


Luke 6:27-28
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
:

DAT, when are you going to figure out that scripture bombing from the bible doesn't mean a thing to anyone unless they view the bible as authoritative?
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5/26/2011 12:00:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

Theists will believe in anything as long as it's written in a book that's at least a 1000 years old...
You will say that I don't really know you
And it will be true.
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5/26/2011 3:40:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/26/2011 12:00:31 PM, Indophile wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

Theists will believe in anything as long as it's written in a book that's at least a 1000 years old...

Naughty nuaghty, thats not true shame on you ;-)
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5/26/2011 4:50:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/26/2011 6:10:50 AM, joneszj wrote:
At 5/25/2011 10:45:22 PM, rogue wrote:
At 5/25/2011 4:50:33 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

The GIFT of Salvation is given by GRACE to a select few; it is task of the select to SPEND that Grace on those who have not received it; not to judge them, for:

John 3:27
To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.


MERCY is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven; those of us who are rich MUST invest! SO:


Luke 6:27-28
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.


Well that wasn't really an argument, nor was it convincing. Your Bible verses mean nothing. Going off of your ridiculous assumptions, doesn't that mean I should give up since I have been chosen not to have grace?

Actually it means you should drop to your knee's and beg God for His mercy (which would seem to me grace in itself) and pray until He forgives you or thrusts you into hell. I will say that there has never been a soul that has asked for forgiveness and not received it :-) DAT your awesome if you are ever in West Palm Beach FL give me a message and we should hang out!

He really isn't. His arguments are so weak. They are only second to the interrogator. How do you know no soul has ever been refused? And didn't he say that grace is given to few people that are chosen? Obviously I was not chosen lol.
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5/26/2011 4:53:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/26/2011 10:36:42 AM, ravynkelley wrote:
At 5/24/2011 11:08:08 AM, kohai wrote:
At 5/24/2011 10:01:29 AM, interrogator wrote:
First. Well I guess that you are out of luck. The Bible is not infallible.
It is a Book of truth. And we are living in a world where the unseen is just as
prevelent and admonished as the seen. It is odd that Atheists have not come to terms with that reality. They are more about the physical, than they are the spiritual.
Unless you have been exposed, like I have, then you may never find the answers
to the questions in your head. That is sad. How can a group of people be so
empty and so shallow. Tisk, tisk. =)

1) The Bible is falible and full of contradictions and scientific blunders.
2) We have came to terms with the reality called "Science"! With science we can observe things and see things. At least we don't have to rely on faith to believe in evolution!
3) I was raised in church and was once a Christian.
4) Not as empty and shallow as Xtians!

Ps. Wanna debate on this?
thats bull i mean really science...i did not evolve from a fvckin monkey or a leecan or watever you wanna say... I mean seriously im not ptting science down but wtf are scientist thinking they got somethin wrong wit their head

Ok really? There is so much evidence to support evolution. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Study it a little and you will see all the evidence for it. Science never follows common sense in my opinion until you actually learn about how it works.