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Rockylightning
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7/19/2011 12:39:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
When most Atheists argue against god, they usually use arguments that postulate that God follows the rules of his universe. What Atheists are forgetting is, God made the rules, and to create them you must exist outside of them. This means God does not operate under his rules, ergo he is able to be as irrational as he likes.

See this post for how this relates to dreams: http://www.debate.org...
CosmicAlfonzo
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7/19/2011 7:04:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
You are personifying God. God doesn't operate like people do. What you are saying only really makes sense if God behaves like a human.

God doesn't behave like a human. Everything that exists, even the thought programs that run in our minds, no matter how irrational or law breaking they may seem to be.. Are products of God's rules. The rules of God are a lot more flexible than people realize, but they do not defy what is natural.

On a certain level, God can be irrational, and God can be completely absurd.. But these things exist in a virtual reality that is separate from actuality. They are illusions of the subjective mind, they are not observations of total objectivity, which is God. Yet, they are still part of it.

The mistake that theists make is that they equate their own imaginings with The God That Exists As Actuality. People mistake the journeys of the mind as being the journeys of a realm that exists outside of the universe, when in fact, it is contained within it.

God is not outside of the universe. The universe is all that exists. If God is outside of the universe, God does not exist. The universe is God. God exists.

The God that most people think of is something that is contained inside of the universe. It is a god of fantasy, just another form of idolatry.
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DATCMOTO
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7/20/2011 5:11:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/19/2011 12:39:24 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
When most Atheists argue against god, they usually use arguments that postulate that God follows the rules of his universe. What Atheists are forgetting is, God made the rules, and to create them you must exist outside of them. This means God does not operate under his rules, ergo he is able to be as irrational as he likes.

See this post for how this relates to dreams: http://www.debate.org...

God is only limited by His character: His goodness.. He cannot be anything else.
The Cross.. the Cross.
Rockylightning
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7/21/2011 12:34:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/20/2011 5:11:06 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/19/2011 12:39:24 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
When most Atheists argue against god, they usually use arguments that postulate that God follows the rules of his universe. What Atheists are forgetting is, God made the rules, and to create them you must exist outside of them. This means God does not operate under his rules, ergo he is able to be as irrational as he likes.

See this post for how this relates to dreams:

God is only limited by His character: His goodness.. He cannot be anything else.

What?
DATCMOTO
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7/21/2011 4:49:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/21/2011 12:34:32 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/20/2011 5:11:06 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/19/2011 12:39:24 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
When most Atheists argue against god, they usually use arguments that postulate that God follows the rules of his universe. What Atheists are forgetting is, God made the rules, and to create them you must exist outside of them. This means God does not operate under his rules, ergo he is able to be as irrational as he likes.

See this post for how this relates to dreams:

God is only limited by His character: His goodness.. He cannot be anything else.

What?

God is only limited by His character: His goodness.. He cannot be anything else.
The Cross.. the Cross.