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DATCMOTO
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7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

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7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.
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7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.
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7/28/2011 1:49:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Except trying to stir a religious debate while Dact is about is like trying to make a conga line of hippos, there's a lot of loud noises and confusion, and by the end of it at least one person has been molested.
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7/28/2011 2:19:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
How can you expect an interesting religious view on Evolution being false?

We're talking about people who refuse to believe our visible universe extends past 10,000 lightyears away (YEC).
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7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.
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7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.
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7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

That's why YEC, and those supporting it, are utterly laughable.
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7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?
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7/30/2011 10:41:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

What do you mean by faith here?
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7/30/2011 10:54:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

That the visible and measurable universe is more than 10,000 lightyears wide? The milky way alone is over 100,000 lightyears wide.

For one, they use the light coming from the sun and other planets to calibrate the correlation between light and distance. You can use a pulse rate to make sure that the effect isn't just dimmed lights.
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7/30/2011 11:06:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

I dont know...maybe the phonebook sized scholarly documents that report, with few exceptions I might add, the universe is 14 Billion Parsecs.

And did you know the Earth is at the center of the Solar System?
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7/30/2011 11:09:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

Yes


2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.


Yes.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.

Speciation Proves evolution.
Lets assume there was a common ancestor. This ancestor would undergo speciation and ergo evolution. How is this hard to understand.
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7/31/2011 1:55:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 11:06:52 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

I dont know...MAYBE THE PHONEBOOK SIZED SCHOLARLY DOCUMENTS that report, with few exceptions I might add, the universe is 14 Billion Parsecs.

And did you know the Earth is at the center of the Solar System?

Hmm… seems we have FAITH in a book…how is that different from religion?
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7/31/2011 2:04:54 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 10:54:29 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

That the visible and measurable universe is more than 10,000 lightyears wide? The milky way alone is over 100,000 lightyears wide.

For one, THEY USE the light coming from the sun and other planets to calibrate the correlation between light and distance. You can use a pulse rate to make sure that the effect isn't just dimmed lights.

Hmm…seems you have a lot of FAITH in "they." "They" said eggs had too much cholesterol when I was younger, now "they" say eggs have good cholesterol. I guess the poultry industry got wise to the ways of the world and sponsored their own research…??
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7/31/2011 2:20:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think this debate is more interesting than the article presented in the first post of this thread. Some of you guys may want to debate this new member called "Jacobstravail."

http://www.debate.org...
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7/31/2011 11:33:02 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/31/2011 1:55:18 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 11:06:52 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

I dont know...MAYBE THE PHONEBOOK SIZED SCHOLARLY DOCUMENTS that report, with few exceptions I might add, the universe is 14 Billion Parsecs.

And did you know the Earth is at the center of the Solar System?

Hmm… seems we have FAITH in a book…how is that different from religion?

While my books: Multiple sources. Use reason based on hard evidence.

Your books: Author unknown. Validity questionable. Ideas proposed...preposterous.
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7/31/2011 11:38:52 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/31/2011 2:04:54 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 10:54:29 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

That the visible and measurable universe is more than 10,000 lightyears wide? The milky way alone is over 100,000 lightyears wide.

For one, THEY USE the light coming from the sun and other planets to calibrate the correlation between light and distance. You can use a pulse rate to make sure that the effect isn't just dimmed lights.

Hmm…seems you have a lot of FAITH in "they." "They" said eggs had too much cholesterol when I was younger, now "they" say eggs have good cholesterol. I guess the poultry industry got wise to the ways of the world and sponsored their own research…??

Your going down that road buddy? Ok.

The "they" you worship said the Earth is the center of the solar system.

"They" said that hell existed, but now they say I doesnt.

"They" said that we should burn heretics at the stake.

"They" rely on a dusty old book that is full of contradictions.

"They" used to take money in exchange for sins being levied.

"They" now accept evolution as a viable theory.
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7/31/2011 1:12:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/31/2011 2:04:54 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 10:54:29 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 5:02:13 PM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/30/2011 2:05:37 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

You are the one who claims the visible universe is less than 20,000 lightyears wide.

Look up at the stars one night. If the world was created 10,000 years ago, then unless light appears without any source, ALL VISIBLE STARS must be within 10,000 lightyears of earth.

Seeing as how the universe is actually millions of lightyears wide...

And you know this how?

That the visible and measurable universe is more than 10,000 lightyears wide? The milky way alone is over 100,000 lightyears wide.

For one, THEY USE the light coming from the sun and other planets to calibrate the correlation between light and distance. You can use a pulse rate to make sure that the effect isn't just dimmed lights.

Hmm…seems you have a lot of FAITH in "they." "They" said eggs had too much cholesterol when I was younger, now "they" say eggs have good cholesterol. I guess the poultry industry got wise to the ways of the world and sponsored their own research…??

Faith? You can do the experiment yourself to find out the scale if you like.

That's the fun thing about real science, you can independently test results.

For instance, people have retested Einstein's theory multiple times using the movement of planets and the reaction of light as it curves around the sun.

Unless you think that a combination of mathematics and physics is equivalent to faith, you're out of your league.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is a conspiracy to make the visible universe appear smaller than it really is? Do you think heliocentricity is also blasphemy?
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7/31/2011 1:14:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/31/2011 2:04:54 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:

Hmm…seems you have a lot of FAITH in "they." "They" said eggs had too much cholesterol when I was younger, now "they" say eggs have good cholesterol. I guess the poultry industry got wise to the ways of the world and sponsored their own research…??

This answer is why I love the starlight problem.

It shows in all its glory just how amazingly anti-intellectual and absurd creationism is. Instead of damning just biology, a YEC can damn every discipline of science, from anatomy to astronomy, without blinking an eye.
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8/1/2011 5:23:54 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 9:29:25 AM, VocMusTcrMaloy wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.

http://records.viu.ca...

*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

No, it's appropriate here. Evolution requires faith, therefore it is religious.

Very good, Bravo!
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8/1/2011 5:30:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 11:09:49 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

Yes


2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.


Yes.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.

Speciation Proves evolution.
Lets assume there was a common ancestor. This ancestor would undergo speciation and ergo evolution. How is this hard to understand.

I have no problem with anyone assuming anything; only with people calling the unobservable and untestable SCIENCE: t'aint.
The Cross.. the Cross.
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8/5/2011 3:30:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/1/2011 5:30:01 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/30/2011 11:09:49 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

Yes


2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.


Yes.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.

Speciation Proves evolution.
Lets assume there was a common ancestor. This ancestor would undergo speciation and ergo evolution. How is this hard to understand.

I have no problem with anyone assuming anything; only with people calling the unobservable and untestable SCIENCE: t'aint.

Unobservable: God
Untestable: Religious claims.

Enough said.
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8/5/2011 10:19:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/5/2011 3:30:06 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 8/1/2011 5:30:01 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/30/2011 11:09:49 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

Yes


2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.


Yes.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.

Speciation Proves evolution.
Lets assume there was a common ancestor. This ancestor would undergo speciation and ergo evolution. How is this hard to understand.

I have no problem with anyone assuming anything; only with people calling the unobservable and untestable SCIENCE: t'aint.

Unobservable: God
Untestable: Religious claims.

Enough said.

We are not calling it science and asking that tax money be used to teach children.. so your comparison is erroneous.
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8/5/2011 10:23:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/5/2011 10:19:31 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
We are not calling it science and asking that tax money be used to teach children..

well... I think that depends on where you live:
http://www.pbs.org...
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8/5/2011 10:32:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/5/2011 10:23:32 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/5/2011 10:19:31 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
We are not calling it science and asking that tax money be used to teach children..

well... I think that depends on where you live:
http://www.pbs.org...

though I guess if you're saying evolution isn't science... well teaching Your religious jumbo would only be fair if that's what you think Evolutionists are doing...

however... Assumptions are indeed part of science.. and, given how organisms clearly 'speciate'.. and Given the range of animals in existence which seem to line up nicely with potential lines of speciation... and given the numerous 'missing links' which existed which apparently could apparently kinda fit between humans and apish animals...

well... the assumption that we have common ancestry is quite the obvious one to make... and that's what science is.. taking the obvious assumptions.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/5/2011 1:41:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/30/2011 4:38:53 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 12:51:48 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:47:27 AM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 10:09:13 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 7/28/2011 1:21:41 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Found this nice article on evolution. Thought I would share it with y'all.



*Loads flame gun*

Follow the corridor down, turn right and it's the 3rd door on your left; Science Forum.

Is it not possible that he wanted a religious perspective/rebuttal? Or perhaps he's trying to convert you. Or he wants to see how many religious people agree/disagree with the theory of evolution. It's relevant to religion and there are a dozen reasons to post it here.

Yep. Trying to stir religious debate.

Very well:

1) Speciation is an observable/testable phenomena. (science)

2) This science is then used to extrapolate a theory (or fact, when it suits) that all creatures are descended from a common ancestor through a very slow (or very fast, when it suits) change over time.

3) there is ZERO evidence for this theory, only of speciation.

Agree with #1.

Actually we have lots of evidence for evolution that comes from the comparison of modern species, observation of evolution, the geographical distribution of modern species, the fossil record, genetics, etc. Evolution is the basis of the natural sciences. Without it biology would not make sense. The theory of evolution is a fact and believed by the mass majority of scientists.
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8/8/2011 5:33:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/5/2011 10:23:32 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/5/2011 10:19:31 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
We are not calling it science and asking that tax money be used to teach children..

well... I think that depends on where you live:
http://www.pbs.org...

There's always exceptions.
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8/8/2011 5:35:54 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/5/2011 10:32:31 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/5/2011 10:23:32 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/5/2011 10:19:31 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
We are not calling it science and asking that tax money be used to teach children..

well... I think that depends on where you live:
http://www.pbs.org...

though I guess if you're saying evolution isn't science... well teaching Your religious jumbo would only be fair if that's what you think Evolutionists are doing...

however... Assumptions are indeed part of science.. and, given how organisms clearly 'speciate'.. and Given the range of animals in existence which seem to line up nicely with potential lines of speciation... and given the numerous 'missing links' which existed which apparently could apparently kinda fit between humans and apish animals...

well... the assumption that we have common ancestry is quite the obvious one to make... and that's what science is.. taking the obvious assumptions.

No, science is proposing a theory and then submitting that theory to rigorous testing..

There is NO evidence for this theory.
The Cross.. the Cross.