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inferno
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7/28/2011 2:29:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
In the Debate.org section. Since we were not allowed to debate there about this.
I was told by officer Innomen that we cannot. Aww, now isnt that sweet.
So let us take our toys here and play in peace and harmony.
But first make sure you read my other thread about Debate.org vs God.
It is very interesting. Comments.
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7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."
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7/28/2011 2:34:12 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

I was brought up Christian too.
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7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.
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7/28/2011 2:34:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:34:12 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

I was brought up Christian too.

Pozzo. You should have stayed. It is your fault that you moved. Not your parents.
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7/28/2011 2:35:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

*sigh*

This is interrogator, isn't it?
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7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"
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7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------
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7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"

Of course not. Im not impressed with your testimony. I can tell you about a group of people who became Christians. But anyway. What would you know anyone >
Youre probably just some Liberal Minded freebirds who never actually trusted God to begin with. And this is in the biggest pagan state in the world. Psss.
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7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?
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7/28/2011 2:39:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

Well, first, I'd like you to respond to me, since I answered your specific forum question and even went to the debate section to see what you wrote.
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7/28/2011 2:40:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?

Pozzo. Why would you want to kill ? Is it because youre not man enough to deal with life as it is ? Or it it because you serve the devil. Which one is it ?
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7/28/2011 2:40:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:34:46 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:12 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

I was brought up Christian too.

Pozzo. You should have stayed. It is your fault that you moved. Not your parents.

Damn right.
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7/28/2011 2:40:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"

Of course not. Im not impressed with your testimony. I can tell you about a group of people who became Christians. But anyway. What would you know anyone >
Youre probably just some Liberal Minded freebirds who never actually trusted God to begin with. And this is in the biggest pagan state in the world. Psss.

So you are stating I wasn't "truly religious."

If I write a thread that replicates yours except replaces "atheist" for "theist" and vice-versa, and you answered that thread, would you have proven you are untrustworthy and not "filled with proof?"
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7/28/2011 2:40:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:39:27 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

Well, first, I'd like you to respond to me, since I answered your specific forum question and even went to the debate section to see what you wrote.

I did. California dreamer.
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7/28/2011 2:41:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:40:51 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:27 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

Well, first, I'd like you to respond to me, since I answered your specific forum question and even went to the debate section to see what you wrote.

I did. California dreamer.

Is that like...a pet name? Or an insult?
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7/28/2011 2:42:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:40:10 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?

Pozzo. Why would you want to kill ? Is it because youre not man enough to deal with life as it is ? Or it it because you serve the devil. Which one is it ?

I don't need a reason to kill. I just need a lack of reasons not to. Your logic, not mine.
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7/28/2011 2:42:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:40:50 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"

Of course not. Im not impressed with your testimony. I can tell you about a group of people who became Christians. But anyway. What would you know anyone >
Youre probably just some Liberal Minded freebirds who never actually trusted God to begin with. And this is in the biggest pagan state in the world. Psss.

So you are stating I wasn't "truly religious."

If I write a thread that replicates yours except replaces "atheist" for "theist" and vice-versa, and you answered that thread, would you have proven you are untrustworthy and not "filled with proof?"

Based on your reasons for not believing anymore and your environment.
I would say so. You were not really into it to begin with. I know your kind.
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7/28/2011 2:42:53 PM
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There is a whole lot of stupid, a whole lot of pretentiousness, and a whole lot of arrogance on both sides of the fence.

Of course, convincing someone of their own faults is nigh impossible. It is better to concentrate on your own.
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7/28/2011 2:44:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:42:08 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:40:10 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?

Pozzo. Why would you want to kill ? Is it because youre not man enough to deal with life as it is ? Or it it because you serve the devil. Which one is it ?

I don't need a reason to kill. I just need a lack of reasons not to. Your logic, not mine.

My logic is that I trust God. And the devil is having his way with your mind, body, and soul. Too bad you do not believe in him either. He has much more of an influence.
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7/28/2011 2:45:18 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:42:53 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
There is a whole lot of stupid, a whole lot of pretentiousness, and a whole lot of arrogance on both sides of the fence.

Of course, convincing someone of their own faults is nigh impossible. It is better to concentrate on your own.

Cosmic. I would say you are guilty of your own words. To each his own.
The only arrogance is that you will probably deny it.
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7/28/2011 2:45:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:42:45 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:40:50 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"

Of course not. Im not impressed with your testimony. I can tell you about a group of people who became Christians. But anyway. What would you know anyone >
Youre probably just some Liberal Minded freebirds who never actually trusted God to begin with. And this is in the biggest pagan state in the world. Psss.

So you are stating I wasn't "truly religious."

If I write a thread that replicates yours except replaces "atheist" for "theist" and vice-versa, and you answered that thread, would you have proven you are untrustworthy and not "filled with proof?"

Based on your reasons for not believing anymore and your environment.
I would say so. You were not really into it to begin with. I know your kind.

I'm not truly religious?

That's unfortunate, because neither are you.

You don't believe in God for valid reasons. You only believe in God so that you can fight with others. Whenever you respond saying you believe in God, that is further proof that your only reason for mentioning him is to fight with others.

Any defense you make for God or against atheists is just an expression of your antagonism towards others.

Thus, you are not truly religious. Just like I wasn't truly religious.
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7/28/2011 2:45:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:44:01 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:08 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:40:10 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?

Pozzo. Why would you want to kill ? Is it because youre not man enough to deal with life as it is ? Or it it because you serve the devil. Which one is it ?

I don't need a reason to kill. I just need a lack of reasons not to. Your logic, not mine.

My logic is that I trust God. And the devil is having his way with your mind, body, and soul. Too bad you do not believe in him either. He has much more of an influence.

What a great way to avoid the question, and thus the holes in your logic.
Your logic dictates that I should start killing now. Whose belief system is really more dangerous here?
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7/28/2011 2:46:14 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:45:18 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:53 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
There is a whole lot of stupid, a whole lot of pretentiousness, and a whole lot of arrogance on both sides of the fence.

Of course, convincing someone of their own faults is nigh impossible. It is better to concentrate on your own.

Cosmic. I would say you are guilty of your own words. To each his own.
The only arrogance is that you will probably deny it.

Holy cr*p. We agree, inferno.
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7/28/2011 2:47:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:45:47 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:44:01 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:08 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:40:10 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:36:43 PM, inferno wrote:
Is there any Atheist out there that can give me a real reason as to why us Christians and non Christians alike( giggling like Glen Beck) should not believe.
I am waiting. <-----------------

You should have a real reason to, rather than finding reasons not to. If I can't think of a reason not to start killing, should I start the spree now?

Pozzo. Why would you want to kill ? Is it because youre not man enough to deal with life as it is ? Or it it because you serve the devil. Which one is it ?

I don't need a reason to kill. I just need a lack of reasons not to. Your logic, not mine.

My logic is that I trust God. And the devil is having his way with your mind, body, and soul. Too bad you do not believe in him either. He has much more of an influence.

What a great way to avoid the question, and thus the holes in your logic.
Your logic dictates that I should start killing now. Whose belief system is really more dangerous here?

Pozzo. That is an interpetation from your own logic. Not mine.
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7/28/2011 2:48:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/28/2011 2:45:30 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:45 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:40:50 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:39:05 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:35:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:34:14 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:31:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
You ignore that quite a few atheists (such as myself) started out just as religious as you are.

And please don't start talking about "true christians" or "true irishmen."

The difference is my friend, I am not you. Your logic is batted around like
a ball. This is why noone takes you Atheists seriously. You make fun of
God, and your own logic backfires. If you were so trustworthy and so filled with
proof, then we would not even be having this discussion. But we are.

So, did you read what I wrote?

I was religious. I believed in God. Heck, I was religious AFTER every member of my family (younger siblings included) became atheists.

You invited me into a discussion, and now that I have responded I have shown that I am not trustworthy or "filled with proof?"

Of course not. Im not impressed with your testimony. I can tell you about a group of people who became Christians. But anyway. What would you know anyone >
Youre probably just some Liberal Minded freebirds who never actually trusted God to begin with. And this is in the biggest pagan state in the world. Psss.

So you are stating I wasn't "truly religious."

If I write a thread that replicates yours except replaces "atheist" for "theist" and vice-versa, and you answered that thread, would you have proven you are untrustworthy and not "filled with proof?"

Based on your reasons for not believing anymore and your environment.
I would say so. You were not really into it to begin with. I know your kind.

I'm not truly religious?

That's unfortunate, because neither are you.

You don't believe in God for valid reasons. You only believe in God so that you can fight with others. Whenever you respond saying you believe in God, that is further proof that your only reason for mentioning him is to fight with others.

Any defense you make for God or against atheists is just an expression of your antagonism towards others.

Thus, you are not truly religious. Just like I wasn't truly religious.

Wnope. No thats no true. I believe in God because of my experiences.
What experiences do you have with the supernatural if any ?
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7/28/2011 2:50:56 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:48:47 PM, inferno wrote:

Wnope. No thats no true. I believe in God because of my experiences.
What experiences do you have with the supernatural if any ?

See! You're doing it again. You're attacking others and being antagonistic but pretending its "defending God."

In fact, I bet you are the sort of person who would make up a supernatural experience just so others wouldn't realize the only thing motivating your words is pure anger towards the world.

Please, calm down.
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7/28/2011 2:51:04 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:46:14 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:45:18 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:53 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
There is a whole lot of stupid, a whole lot of pretentiousness, and a whole lot of arrogance on both sides of the fence.

Of course, convincing someone of their own faults is nigh impossible. It is better to concentrate on your own.

Cosmic. I would say you are guilty of your own words. To each his own.
The only arrogance is that you will probably deny it.

Holy cr*p. We agree, inferno.

If what I am saying is true, why detract from it's truth by attacking the person who said it?

There isn't a man alive who isn't a hypocrite, and anyone who says otherwise is a fool. Ideas stand on their own, independent of who may have conjured them up.
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7/28/2011 2:53:40 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:50:56 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:48:47 PM, inferno wrote:

Wnope. No thats no true. I believe in God because of my experiences.
What experiences do you have with the supernatural if any ?

See! You're doing it again. You're attacking others and being antagonistic but pretending its "defending God."

In fact, I bet you are the sort of person who would make up a supernatural experience just so others wouldn't realize the only thing motivating your words is pure anger towards the world.

Please, calm down.

Wnope. I wish that were true. But it is not made up. I can take you to places in this world where you WOULD believe that the supernatural exist. I had this happen to a friend once before when we were younger. And he was speechless.
But Yes, I believe in God. Sorry.
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7/28/2011 2:53:57 PM
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At 7/28/2011 2:51:04 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:46:14 PM, Pozzo wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:45:18 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/28/2011 2:42:53 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
There is a whole lot of stupid, a whole lot of pretentiousness, and a whole lot of arrogance on both sides of the fence.

Of course, convincing someone of their own faults is nigh impossible. It is better to concentrate on your own.

Cosmic. I would say you are guilty of your own words. To each his own.
The only arrogance is that you will probably deny it.

Holy cr*p. We agree, inferno.

If what I am saying is true, why detract from it's truth by attacking the person who said it?

There isn't a man alive who isn't a hypocrite, and anyone who says otherwise is a fool. Ideas stand on their own, independent of who may have conjured them up.

You're calling us all stupid, arrogant and pretentious. Ideas stand on their own, but we still debate them. That's basically the point of this site.