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CosmicAlfonzo
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10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.
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10/14/2011 9:36:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

I think people who refuse to grasp reality at some point need a proverbial slap in the face. Insults have a useful effect on people.
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10/14/2011 9:38:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:36:15 PM, izbo10 wrote:
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

I think people who refuse to grasp reality at some point need a proverbial slap in the face. Insults have a useful effect on people.

Useful in realizing you are incoherent.
1) Whatever has contradictory attributes does not exist.
2) The Biblical God has contradictory attributes.
3) Therefore, the Biblical God does not exist
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10/14/2011 9:47:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

Good post, Cosmic.
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10/14/2011 9:48:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Now now, this is what I'm talking about.

Izbo, I can see where you are coming from, but trust me when I say it isn't as effective as you might think it is.

Slapping people in the face doesn't work. For it to work, you have to stick them in prison for a while, and make them eat bologna every day. Even that doesn't work usually, it just makes them more pissed.

You don't have to believe me, but please be open to the possibility.
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10/14/2011 9:49:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

When studying history, it is interesting to see how people adapt religion and incorporated other ideas, such as incarnation in both Buddhism and Hinduism, and "good vs evil" in Zoroastrianism and most monotheistic faiths". I do not believe in strict church teachings and doctrines that describe my faith and what I believe in (which is where most atheist fail in trying to disprove religion). I believe that true religion is the religion that is discovered by one's self. Manichaeism is interesting and inspirational because it takes the best "truths" and ideas from multiple religions, Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Buddhism, and makes them one. Religions like this make more sense and are more appealing to me.
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10/14/2011 10:45:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:49:54 PM, Mikeee wrote:
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

When studying history, it is interesting to see how people adapt religion and incorporated other ideas, such as incarnation in both Buddhism and Hinduism, and "good vs evil" in Zoroastrianism and most monotheistic faiths". I do not believe in strict church teachings and doctrines that describe my faith and what I believe in (which is where most atheist fail in trying to disprove religion). I believe that true religion is the religion that is discovered by one's self. Manichaeism is interesting and inspirational because it takes the best "truths" and ideas from multiple religions, Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Buddhism, and makes them one. Religions like this make more sense and are more appealing to me.

That's all fine and dandy. There is no reason why these ideas, which are fundamentally philosophical can't be discussed civilly.
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10/14/2011 11:30:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

Personally I enjoy pointing out where people are wrong and stupid in a condescending way on the internet where they shouldn't care too much. It helps relieve some stress and anger for me. :)
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10/14/2011 11:38:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 11:30:02 PM, rogue wrote:
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

Personally I enjoy pointing out where people are wrong and stupid in a condescending way on the internet where they shouldn't care too much. It helps relieve some stress and anger for me. :)

It's ok if you do it, because of your tasty hair pies, and beautiful eyes.
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10/14/2011 11:47:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 11:30:02 PM, rogue wrote:
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

Personally I enjoy pointing out where people are wrong and stupid in a condescending way on the internet where they shouldn't care too much. It helps relieve some stress and anger for me. :)

TROLLOLOLOL.

but seriously.. Yelling arguments isnt going to convert anyone. It needs to be done slowly and civily. +1 interwebz point to cosmic.
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10/15/2011 6:46:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Oh yes, unfortunately we need two such people.
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10/15/2011 8:01:54 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.
It's not only in this forum, nor are religious people anywhere near the most insulting ones. Try again.
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10/15/2011 11:17:25 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/15/2011 8:01:54 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.
It's not only in this forum, nor are religious people anywhere near the most insulting ones. Try again.

What about my post made you feel I was accusing religious people of anything? I'm talking about the people on this forum, the religion forum. That includes religious and non-religious.
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10/19/2011 3:46:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/14/2011 9:19:25 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Is there anyone on this forum who is actually emotionally detached enough to discuss the subject intellectually while also being civil?

Is there anything really gained by insulting each other and looking past what one is saying?

I'd rather see people working to find a mutual understanding, but you see none of that here. I see a lot of Poes, I see a lot of stereotypes, and I see a lot of hate.

Why are you here? Why do you preach whatever message you are trying to preach? If you are here, you should be here to learn or aide others in their quest for truth. No one is going to listen to you if you act like a wanker. It doesn't matter what you are saying, it doesn't matter if you are right on the money, and just predicted the outcome of the the World Cup along with all injuries etc, if you are being a pr!ck about it, people are going to think you are an arrogant @sshole. Right or wrong, that's just how people are. If you are just trying to stir up trouble, you aren't being productive. If you see that someone is stirring up trouble, you aren't being productive by engaging them.

So why are you on this forum? Think about that.

With loves and kisses.

There's not a middle ground. If one person says "2+2=4" and another person says "no, 2+2=6" the first person shouldn't say "well, let's meet in the middle and say 2+2=5."

If people are going to believe something that is wrong, they should be told that they are wrong. If they want to get defensive and angry, we can get angry right back at them and throw down more logic. Sure, the slapping around isn't needed, but sometimes people need to be hit by the truth, rather than just told the truth.