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popculturepooka
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12/16/2011 12:38:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I put this in the religion section because he's probably most famous for being one of the "four horsemen" of the "new atheist" movement, although he was a pretty vigorous political commentator.

That's too bad...

http://www.vanityfair.com...

He wrote this really interesting piece on the Nietzschean line of thought "Whatever doesn't kill you make you stronger" where he rejected it:

http://www.vanityfair.com...
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OMGJustinBieber
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12/16/2011 12:53:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I just posted this as my facebook status. He'll be missed, he was - I believe - at his heart a true contrarian who loved debate and I've seen him on countless talk shows. Very entertaining to watch and he'll really be missed.
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12/16/2011 1:50:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Even though I feel that the "new atheist movement" tends to make atheists look bad, I do respect and understand where these fellows are coming from. Unfortunately, they fight for a lost cause. The manipulation of the unthinking masses is necessary, as dictated by human nature. Religion will have its place so long as there are people who put their faith in hope rather than truth.
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12/16/2011 7:34:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is one of the saddest things that I have heard in a long time. He was one of my personal heroes, I will really miss him.
"Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it."
- Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
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lotus_flower
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12/16/2011 8:12:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
http://www.reddit.com...
I heard hitchens had a death bed conversion...
"Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it."
- Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
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http://www.bbc.co.uk...
popculturepooka
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12/16/2011 6:46:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/16/2011 12:53:06 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
I just posted this as my facebook status. He'll be missed, he was - I believe - at his heart a true contrarian who loved debate and I've seen him on countless talk shows. Very entertaining to watch and he'll really be missed.

Word. He was certainly very entertaining to watch debate.
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Gileandos
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12/17/2011 10:47:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/16/2011 12:38:23 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I put this in the religion section because he's probably most famous for being one of the "four horsemen" of the "new atheist" movement, although he was a pretty vigorous political commentator.

That's too bad...

http://www.vanityfair.com...

He wrote this really interesting piece on the Nietzschean line of thought "Whatever doesn't kill you make you stronger" where he rejected it:

http://www.vanityfair.com...

I am excited, for him, that indeed His athiestic viewpoint was wrong. I am certain as he is now in the intermediate state learning about who God is, he is quite certain God indeed exists.

I found his debate humor to be fantastic myself. A phenomenal writer. I do remember when he asked Craig if craig would prefer him to be a swaheli (not sure if that is how it is spelled) baby or to be a Hitchens baby.

It is interesting, in Hitchens work you cited from vanity fair really does starkly deny several athiestic principles Hitchens has espoused for years.

I am glad that his circumstances allowed him to review reality in a superior light. It shows that some things, even for brilliant men like Hitchens, can only be understood through experience.

I am fairly certain in the dark of night he felt the need for God and probably had an interesting conversation with God.

Needless to say even if Hitchens rejected God up until his very death, God did not reject him.

May Hitchens continue to learn and grow now that he is experiencing the reality every theologian has spoken of for millenia.
Rusty
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12/17/2011 11:44:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/17/2011 10:47:12 AM, Gileandos wrote:
At 12/16/2011 12:38:23 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
I put this in the religion section because he's probably most famous for being one of the "four horsemen" of the "new atheist" movement, although he was a pretty vigorous political commentator.

That's too bad...

http://www.vanityfair.com...

He wrote this really interesting piece on the Nietzschean line of thought "Whatever doesn't kill you make you stronger" where he rejected it:

http://www.vanityfair.com...

I am excited, for him, that indeed His athiestic viewpoint was wrong. I am certain as he is now in the intermediate state learning about who God is, he is quite certain God indeed exists.:
I found his debate humor to be fantastic myself. A phenomenal writer. I do remember when he asked Craig if craig would prefer him to be a swaheli (not sure if that is how it is spelled) baby or to be a Hitchens baby.



It is interesting, in Hitchens work you cited from vanity fair really does starkly deny several athiestic principles Hitchens has espoused for years.

I am glad that his circumstances allowed him to review reality in a superior light. It shows that some things, even for brilliant men like Hitchens, can only be understood through experience.

I am fairly certain in the dark of night he felt the need for God and probably had an interesting conversation with God.

Needless to say even if Hitchens rejected God up until his very death, God did not reject him.

May Hitchens continue to learn and grow now that he is experiencing the reality every theologian has spoken of for millenia.

Whats exactly do those lines mean? What kind of afterlife are you referring to?
Gileandos
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12/17/2011 3:43:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Correct Pop on the count of purgatory or at least what is referred to as the intermediate state between Heaven and Hell.

I am not exactly Catholic.
I am a Soldier in the Salvation Army which is out of the Mainstream Methodist Church.

I would be considered Patriarichal in that I believe nearly everything that the five Patriarchs (4 Eastern Orthodox Patriarchs, now once again, in communion with the fifth Patriarch of Rome) teach which includes the Patriarch of Rome, the Pope.

I have some person questions in my question bag that God has not driven home to me yet, but I am growing.
Rusty
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12/17/2011 4:03:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sometimes people can be smug (nothing personal, we haven't talked that much) about the concept of hell with dead people and I wasn't sure if you were going that route or not, but that makes more sense.
popculturepooka
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12/17/2011 5:20:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Peter Hitchens - Christopher Hitchen's brother and also a Christian - reflects on his brother's death:

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk...
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12/17/2011 7:46:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/17/2011 10:49:27 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
Hitchens meeting God would be one of the funniest occasions I could imagine. I'd think Hitchens would want to chat a little.

Hitchens to God, "Well... about... that..., um, um, um."
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OMGJustinBieber
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12/17/2011 8:11:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/17/2011 7:46:15 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 12/17/2011 10:49:27 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
Hitchens meeting God would be one of the funniest occasions I could imagine. I'd think Hitchens would want to chat a little.

Hitchens to God, "Well... about... that..., um, um, um."

Absolutely not, Hitchens would chew him out.
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12/17/2011 8:20:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
He was the most entertaining writer alive in my opinion. Even when I didn't agree with a word he was saying, I still enjoyed his work. RITGBTNAIP(rest in the ground because there's no after life in peace). I thought I'd change the phrase for Hitchens.
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