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Atheists Should Not Celebrate Christmas

royalpaladin
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12/22/2011 12:52:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Ok. I expect Christians not to celebrate Saturnalia then since they do not suffer witches and pagans to live. Move Christmas to the middle of October; keep Saturn in Saturnalia.
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12/22/2011 12:55:15 AM
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Yeah. Cause we all know how religious Christmas is nowadays... Admit it. The Atheists won. You guys converted Pagan holidays into a Christian one, and now Atheists have made it into a Commercial one. LIFE.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

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12/22/2011 2:37:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Sound just like a liberal. Now Christmas belongs to you, I guess.
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12/22/2011 4:23:02 AM
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I'm agnostic and already bought the presents. Is that cool?
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12/22/2011 4:55:36 AM
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At 12/22/2011 4:23:02 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I'm agnostic and already bought the presents. Is that cool?

as long as they're gifted under the pretext that there could be a God and that it's his birthday!
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royalpaladin
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12/22/2011 5:40:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/22/2011 4:55:36 AM, badger wrote:
At 12/22/2011 4:23:02 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I'm agnostic and already bought the presents. Is that cool?

as long as they're gifted under the pretext that there could be a God and that it's his birthday!

Yes, Lord Saturn will be pleased.
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12/22/2011 7:12:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

1. It isn't your holiday.
2. Try and stop me.
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12/22/2011 8:21:12 AM
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I'm personally gonna use my holidays to celebrate pre-marital sex anyway... and Jesus, shur you'd never know where the drink'd take you, I might get a bit of celebrating homosexuality in there too...

or, well, no I won't be celebrating the homosexuality... but that just goes to show how we're not for the want of things unholy to celebrate...

or, well, depending on your definition of "holy" that is... I suppose religion wouldn't be too hard made fit with either of the two that spring to mind for me...
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12/22/2011 8:26:30 AM
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At 12/22/2011 12:55:15 AM, M.Torres wrote:
Yeah. Cause we all know how religious Christmas is nowadays... Admit it. The Atheists won. You guys converted Pagan holidays into a Christian one, and now Atheists have made it into a Commercial one. LIFE.

It's not Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years anymore. It's just a season long holiday of gluttonous commericialism ending in a drunken revalie.
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12/22/2011 8:41:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/22/2011 12:55:15 AM, M.Torres wrote:
Yeah. Cause we all know how religious Christmas is nowadays... Admit it. The Atheists won. You guys converted Pagan holidays into a Christian one, and now Atheists have made it into a Commercial one. LIFE.

This.
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12/22/2011 8:46:00 AM
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At 12/22/2011 12:55:15 AM, M.Torres wrote:
Yeah. Cause we all know how religious Christmas is nowadays... Admit it. The Atheists won. You guys converted Pagan holidays into a Christian one, and now Atheists have made it into a Commercial one. LIFE.

In light of my first response to this, I wonder if it would be more accurate to say not that the Atheists won, but that the Pagans never lost.

So you already have a holiday of general debauchery and some high minded religious types come in and say, "We're going to take your holiday and call it 'Christmas' and now it is sacred and special and holy and you have to stop doing all that Pagan stuff." And the pagans go, "Cool story bro. Call it whatever you like, we're still doing the same stuff." And no one really ever changes their behavior, even while the people at large are convinced that Christmas was ALWAYS a holiday of reverence and treating it like a carnival is a modern degredation.
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12/22/2011 8:51:17 AM
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I'm an athiest and I don't celebrate Christmas. Christmas Day (7th January) is just another day to me.

I do, however, celebrate Yuletide on 25th December.

You see, sadly, many years ago our mid-winter festivities were hijacked by religious zealots who wanted us to celebrate the birth of the founder of their sect – Jesus Christ - and they sought to rebrand the traditional Yuletide celebrations as "Christmas" in his honour.

The fact is, the Christians of Northern Europe didn't adopt the 25th December to mark Jesus Christ's birthday until around three or four hundred years after he died (supposing he even existed at all). Orthodox Christians continue to celebrate Jesus Christ's birth on his birthday, the 7th January.

These early Christians coerced the population of Northern Europe into observing Christmas and, as a result of their bullying, the real meaning of Yuletide was largely forgotten and all we have to remember our original festival are Yuletide logs, holly, ivy and mistletoe – and the fact that the festive season lasts for twelve days rather than just one. This is a shame and urge fellow non-Christians to remember the true spirit of Yuletide this year.
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12/22/2011 9:16:01 AM
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At 12/22/2011 9:11:47 AM, badger wrote:
what is the true spirit of Yuletide, Brian? bloated drunken sex I hope?

Turkey and Ham flavoured johnnies and kinky red suits?
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12/22/2011 9:16:58 AM
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Atheists should celebrate Christmas, it may show them what giving their life to god means and why they should stop choosing the path to hell.
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12/22/2011 9:39:07 AM
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At 12/22/2011 9:16:58 AM, bigbob91 wrote:
Atheists should celebrate Christmas, it may show them what giving their life to god means and why they should stop choosing the path to hell.

LOL. I'm not choosing a path to hell. I don't believe there is a path to hell. So if a conscious, informed, choice has been made, it isn't by me.
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12/22/2011 9:45:12 AM
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At 12/22/2011 9:11:47 AM, badger wrote:
what is the true spirit of Yuletide, Brian? bloated drunken sex I hope?

Little is known about the pagan festivities but I think it is safe to say that drunken orgies were central to the celebrations (mistletoe is a fertility symbol).
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12/22/2011 2:11:08 PM
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It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. You want to disbelieve in the Easter Bunny fine but then don't celebrate Easter.
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12/22/2011 2:23:10 PM
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Atheists participate in the traditions, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.

Btw do you support mass genocide, sexual slavery and white supremacy? If not then don't celebrate Thanksgiving, hypocrite.
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12/22/2011 2:27:56 PM
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At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Atheists don't celebrate Christmas to celebrate Christs birth, so no it's not hypocritical.
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12/22/2011 2:28:10 PM
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At 12/22/2011 2:23:10 PM, Danielle wrote:
Atheists participate in the traditions, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.

Btw do you support mass genocide, sexual slavery and white supremacy? If not then don't celebrate Thanksgiving, hypocrite.

I always thought of Thanksgiving as a holiday that was supposed to unite mankind as a whole. At least, that is what the original Thanksgiving did.
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12/22/2011 2:30:23 PM
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At 12/22/2011 2:27:56 PM, phantom wrote:
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Atheists don't celebrate Christmas to celebrate Christs birth, so no it's not hypocritical.

Why celebrate at all if not celebrating Christ's birth?
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12/22/2011 2:31:54 PM
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At 12/22/2011 2:30:23 PM, bigbob91 wrote:
At 12/22/2011 2:27:56 PM, phantom wrote:
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Atheists don't celebrate Christmas to celebrate Christs birth, so no it's not hypocritical.

Why celebrate at all if not celebrating Christ's birth?

Presents. Winter. Family. Santa Claus. Old cartoon movies.

Are people not allowed to enjoy a day for the sake of enjoying that day? We place our own meaning behind it - just watch TV during Christmas season. The majority all try and explain "Christmas" meaning, and the majority are NOT religious.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

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12/22/2011 2:37:51 PM
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Christians calling non-believers who celebrate Christmas hypocrites are being hypocrites as well.

You believe that Christmas is all about giving, forgiving, loving, sharing, etc yet you oppose non-believers celebrating this holiday, contradiction much?
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12/22/2011 2:40:06 PM
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At 12/22/2011 5:40:13 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 12/22/2011 4:55:36 AM, badger wrote:
At 12/22/2011 4:23:02 AM, Maikuru wrote:
I'm agnostic and already bought the presents. Is that cool?

as long as they're gifted under the pretext that there could be a God and that it's his birthday!

Yes, Lord Saturn will be pleased.

so wait, do you actually believe in the Greek gods? Cause if so....Really?
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12/22/2011 2:54:04 PM
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At 12/22/2011 2:11:08 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. You want to disbelieve in the Easter Bunny fine but then don't celebrate Easter.

Bingo!
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12/22/2011 2:55:10 PM
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At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.:

No, hypocrisy is stealing pagan traditions and then calling them their own. Every single major "Christian" holiday is an amalgamation of earlier pagan holidays.

Tsk, tsk... Learn some history.
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12/22/2011 2:56:52 PM
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At 12/22/2011 2:30:23 PM, bigbob91 wrote:
At 12/22/2011 2:27:56 PM, phantom wrote:
At 12/22/2011 12:51:56 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
It's pure hypocrisy, plain and simple. They want to hate on religion fine but then don't celebrate our holidays.

Atheists don't celebrate Christmas to celebrate Christs birth, so no it's not hypocritical.

Why celebrate at all if not celebrating Christ's birth?

Santa, presents, tradition...
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12/22/2011 3:00:50 PM
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Why celebrate at all if not celebrating Christ's birth?:

Doesn't matter either way since Christ couldn't have been born in the winter, let alone in December, let alone in late December.

If you have a Christmas tree in your home, you're pagan scum that deserves to burn in hell.
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