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Rational_Thinker9119
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3/3/2012 6:33:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
People thank and praised God for sparing them when the tornado struck the Midwest a few days ago, but didn't condemn him for creating the tornadoes that cause death and suffering in the first place.
Physik
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3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 6:33:39 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
People thank and praised God for sparing them when the tornado struck the Midwest a few days ago, but didn't condemn him for creating the tornadoes that cause death and suffering in the first place.

Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
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3/3/2012 6:52:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Because if you praise God he looks kindly on you, if you don't praise God, well he keeps a record and comes after ya, that's why you have to praise God even in situations like this.

Vengeful little thing isn't he, its almost if a nasty kind of people created a nasty kind of God.

PS: If you laugh or understand what is going on here, God is going to burn you, FOREVER, now give in, give in to fear, stop asking questions and do as your told, by God, as told by your fellow man, hey would they lie to you ? would they make this stuff up ? that's umpossible.
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3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.
Rational_Thinker9119
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3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Mirza
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3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?
Rational_Thinker9119
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3/4/2012 12:23:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?

Tornadoes don't have will, so your question is irrelevant.
Paradox_7
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3/4/2012 1:21:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?
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Mirza
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3/4/2012 11:55:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/4/2012 12:23:48 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?

Tornadoes don't have will, so your question is irrelevant.
Anything that can be connected to the original topic is relevant.
logicrules
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3/4/2012 12:10:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 6:33:39 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
People thank and praised God for sparing them when the tornado struck the Midwest a few days ago, but didn't condemn him for creating the tornadoes that cause death and suffering in the first place.

No, not funny by any standard.
Ren
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3/4/2012 12:23:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/3/2012 6:33:39 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
People thank and praised God for sparing them when the tornado struck the Midwest a few days ago, but didn't condemn him for creating the tornadoes that cause death and suffering in the first place.

Surely, your realize that theists believe that God is wiser than they can ever hope to be, and thus accept that God has a reasonable explanation for the existence of pain and suffering beyond human control, even if we could never understand it?

But, the larger point is that, given an ultimate God exists, He would be so beyond our capacity, that we would need to accept what He does one way or another. Our condemnations are meaningless -- they're like shooting at the sun with a squirt gun. As far as we know, His condemnations could smite us out of existence altogether. So, we might as well thank Him for taking whatever He takes when He comes around, and more, given there is whatever's left.
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3/4/2012 12:39:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/4/2012 12:23:40 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:33:39 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
People thank and praised God for sparing them when the tornado struck the Midwest a few days ago, but didn't condemn him for creating the tornadoes that cause death and suffering in the first place.

Surely, your realize that theists believe that God is wiser than they can ever hope to be, and thus accept that God has a reasonable explanation for the existence of pain and suffering beyond human control, even if we could never understand it?

But, the larger point is that, given an ultimate God exists, He would be so beyond our capacity, that we would need to accept what He does one way or another. Our condemnations are meaningless -- they're like shooting at the sun with a squirt gun. As far as we know, His condemnations could smite us out of existence altogether. So, we might as well thank Him for taking whatever He takes when He comes around, and more, given there is whatever's left.

"Surely, your realize that theists believe that God is wiser than they can ever hope to be, and thus accept that God has a reasonable explanation for the existence of pain and suffering beyond human control"

This is the common "God works in mysterious ways" fallacy, it holds no weight.

"He would be so beyond our capacity, that we would need to accept what He does one way or another. Our condemnations are meaningless --"

In order for me to accept the idea that my ideas are meaningless, I would have to see some pretty convincing evidence for this claim. There is no convincing evidence that this ultimate mind exists. Anyone who lives like their ideas are meaningless based on bad evidence, is a "slave to a God that doesn't exist" as Marilyn Manson would put it.
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3/5/2012 7:30:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/4/2012 12:23:48 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?

Tornadoes don't have will, so your question is irrelevant.

Liebniz: The world was created by god in the best In the best possible combination.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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3/5/2012 7:31:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/4/2012 11:55:55 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/4/2012 12:23:48 AM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?

Tornadoes don't have will, so your question is irrelevant.
Anything that can be connected to the original topic is relevant.

lol
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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3/5/2012 7:37:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/4/2012 1:21:57 AM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:46:03 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:44:06 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
At 3/3/2012 11:35:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/3/2012 6:37:55 PM, Physik wrote:
Something good happens: Praise God!

Something bad happens: Part of God's plan.

Old news.
Old news that you haven't yet understood. Anything is part of God's plan. Theists don't argue against this. What we do is thank God for what good happens, and we thank Him in every situation. We don't say thanks to God for a tornado murdering people because that would indoctrinate people to accept evil happening, and would thus result in less hard work to achieve good.

If death, suffering, and destruction are part of God's plan then he is evil by his own standards.
Do you agree with the statement that God's omniscience negates free will?

Homie, just as a warning.. this crack head you are arguing with, is in denial.

He does all the same sh*t we do, lives the same type of life, but thinks he's better because he believes in nothing..

He says death is bad and evil, but has no reason why; unless he borrows it from God.

Just keep asking him why.. he'll start getting frustrated and insult your intelligence even further.

we got a name for dudes like this in my neck of the woods: WEENIE!!! HE'S A F*CKN WEENIE!

The Fool: This this hate not Debat. This is not that place for that kind or garbage. Attack arguments not the people !!!!

and ya. its impossible to believe in nothing. For there is nothing there to believe.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL