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4/25/2012 6:29:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Do you believe:

a) God created the universe, just so we could be here
b) God created the universe with a purpose for the universe, we are just a smaller subset of this cosmic purpose.
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4/25/2012 7:52:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2012 6:29:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Do you believe:

a) God created the universe, just so we could be here
b) God created the universe with a purpose for the universe, we are just a smaller subset of this cosmic purpose.

Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, But formed it to be inhabited), "I am the LORD, and there is none else.

God's purpose in creating the world was that it might be inhabited. It was therefore God's desires that the living creatures of the world would bring him pleasure. Psalm 147:10:

http://www.scripturessay.com...
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4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.
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4/25/2012 10:58:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Choice B.
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4/26/2012 12:04:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
B seems more logical.
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4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.
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4/26/2012 12:53:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

...Do you realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing the other person of doing, claiming to know God and His motives?
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4/26/2012 12:59:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:53:27 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

...Do you realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing the other person of doing, claiming to know God and His motives?

Good point, but I think he could find verses in the Bible to support his assertions.
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4/26/2012 1:04:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2012 6:29:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Do you believe:

a) God created the universe, just so we could be here
b) God created the universe with a purpose for the universe, we are just a smaller subset of this cosmic purpose.

B, of course, everybody knows that! All he really wanted was communion wine and stale crackers, we were just a happy accident.
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4/26/2012 1:18:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:59:44 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:27 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

...Do you realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing the other person of doing, claiming to know God and His motives?

Good point, but I think he could find verses in the Bible to support his assertions.

I'm sure Jat could, as well. The discrepancy is in how you describe "perfect." Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.

Plus, Politico said "God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable." What makes Politico a greater authority on God, if he's the greatest mystery in the universe?

I think that God can be known, especially since he revealed himself through the Bible. As long as you have good reasons to believe what you do, then we shouldn't just dismiss them because we disagree with them.
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4/26/2012 7:39:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:18:45 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:59:44 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:27 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

...Do you realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing the other person of doing, claiming to know God and His motives?

Good point, but I think he could find verses in the Bible to support his assertions.

I'm sure Jat could, as well.

Disagree

The discrepancy is in how you describe "perfect." Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.

Exactly, atheists wouldn't be able to support this biblically, except that he is perfect, but that doesn't eleviate the unbased speculation.


Plus, Politico said "God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable." What makes Politico a greater authority on God, if he's the greatest mystery in the universe?

Look below. You said it yourself; the Bible. If the Bible claims what cp claims than he is more justified because he is not just making unbased speculation on Gods character.

I think that God can be known, especially since he revealed himself through the Bible. As long as you have good reasons to believe what you do, then we shouldn't just dismiss them because we disagree with them.

Mostly agree.
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4/26/2012 10:22:34 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I of course think B. while it might be hard to answer why he created specifically Its a much farther leap to just say it was without any purpose but he did it anyway.

to the guy going on about god omnipotence meaning he wouldn't create anyone for companionship, that's stupid and hears why. a dog is a much lower being in intelligence and yet cannot it not provide companionship to humans? Just because you have no need of something to sustain yourself does not mean you would have no desire to do so. I don't need to drink a soda today when I leave this computer, I can sustain without ever drinking one again in fact but I want to have one but I will.
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4/26/2012 10:33:02 AM
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Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.:

Yeah, okay.

And why did he create flesh-eating bacteria? To cuddle with?

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4/26/2012 10:38:32 AM
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Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.:

Lets talk about faulty logic. Anything God does is deemed perfect a priori, so that regardless of the actions it's consistent with perfection, EVEN in the face of total contradiction. Yeah, so lets talk about logic.

How do we know God is perfect? The bible says so, silly! How do we know the bible is true? Because God said so, you goof!

But I'm sure circular arguments are part of God's perfect design, along with genocide and natural disasters. His mercies endure forever!
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4/26/2012 11:03:45 AM
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At 4/26/2012 10:38:32 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.:

Lets talk about faulty logic. Anything God does is deemed perfect a priori, so that regardless of the actions it's consistent with perfection, EVEN in the face of total contradiction. Yeah, so lets talk about logic.

How do we know God is perfect? The bible says so, silly! How do we know the bible is true? Because God said so, you goof!

But I'm sure circular arguments are part of God's perfect design, along with genocide and natural disasters. His mercies endure forever!

We make arguments apart from the Scriptures to show God's existence is probable. There are many reasons to believe that the Scriptures are God's revealed word to mankind. There are no contradictions in the Scriptures, only verses atheists takes out of context to try and discredit them.
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4/26/2012 11:53:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 11:03:45 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 10:38:32 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.:

Lets talk about faulty logic. Anything God does is deemed perfect a priori, so that regardless of the actions it's consistent with perfection, EVEN in the face of total contradiction. Yeah, so lets talk about logic.

How do we know God is perfect? The bible says so, silly! How do we know the bible is true? Because God said so, you goof!

But I'm sure circular arguments are part of God's perfect design, along with genocide and natural disasters. His mercies endure forever!

We make arguments apart from the Scriptures to show God's existence is probable. There are many reasons to believe that the Scriptures are God's revealed word to mankind. There are no contradictions in the Scriptures, only verses atheists takes out of context to try and discredit them.

So in order to argue that the Scriptures are reliable, you use the Scriptures. This is still circular logic. Its like saying if someone says that Superman doesn't exist, one one person says he does, and he has an advantage because he has a comic book.
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4/26/2012 12:03:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

In other words:

Point 1: The nature of God is unknowable, and to presume to know is laughable.

Point 2: I know the nature of God includes the capacity to be lonely.

Can I laugh now?
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4/26/2012 12:04:10 PM
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At 4/26/2012 10:45:28 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
C) Gods a douche, doesn't really give a damn.

It's D, God is FREEDO.
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4/26/2012 2:59:39 PM
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I would respectfully disagree with those saying that God could get lonely and that's why we were created. I personally do not think that opinion is supported by scripture.
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4/26/2012 4:38:06 PM
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B.
We are here to resolve the Angelic Rebellion.

This is explained far more comprehensively than any other view in the Bible and is the Held belief of most Churches and conferences.

Our reward for being limited and subjected to this world as such is to be made greater than the Angels and joint heirs with Jesus.
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4/26/2012 6:04:03 PM
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At 4/25/2012 6:29:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Do you believe:

a) God created the universe, just so we could be here
b) God created the universe with a purpose for the universe, we are just a smaller subset of this cosmic purpose.

Answer A. But I don't believe we are the soul purpose for why God created the universe. I believe that God created the universe to exsult Christ through glory. That Christ out weighs the entire glory of the universe. By Christ taking away our sin, He become like us, while existing as God at the very same time. Rather it is, with all the surrounding, existing and present things around us making up everything that God has made, Christ out glorifies all what is good, and Christ has over come all that is evil. And this is why, we can do nothing, absolutely nothing in our might to redeem ourselves fit for eternal life.
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4/26/2012 6:06:00 PM
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Hmm....I'd say B, you the reasons above.
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4/26/2012 6:06:36 PM
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At 4/26/2012 10:33:02 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.:

Yeah, okay.

And why did he create flesh-eating bacteria? To cuddle with?


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4/26/2012 7:02:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:18:45 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:59:44 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:27 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:10:29 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:54:37 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:25:36 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
B.

We are here to give companionship to God.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists. He is by definition perfect. You really think such a supremely, unfathomably perfect and complete being would want companionship from humans? What could mankind possibly offer such a being? If we are here to give companionship to God, how can he still be perfect (without needs or wants)? If we exist to give companionship to God, he must not be all perfect, and must be in some way dependent on us - thus is he really omnipotent either?

If you propose a God so powerful and knowledgeable and awesome and perfect, it's a huge stretch to say the same being picks and chooses certain groups of human beings (who were primitive, immoral, scientifically ignorant, etc.) in the most remote and illiterate places of the ancient world to be his favorite nation, cares about what they eat, what they wear, who they sleep with, and so on. These two kind of beings are simply not compatible.

First, I don't like rants like this because

1) You don't know God and all that stuff you just spewed are your own misconstrued ramblings that have no basis anywhere. God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable.

2) You really just sound like you're spewing garbage.

Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.

...Do you realize you're doing the same thing you're accusing the other person of doing, claiming to know God and His motives?

Good point, but I think he could find verses in the Bible to support his assertions.

I'm sure Jat could, as well. The discrepancy is in how you describe "perfect." Atheists love to say that if God was perfect, He wouldn't be lonely and therefore wouldn't have needed to create us. This is faulty thinking, of course.

Plus, Politico said "God is the greatest mystery in the universe. To think you understand Him is laughable." What makes Politico a greater authority on God, if he's the greatest mystery in the universe?

I think that God can be known, especially since he revealed himself through the Bible. As long as you have good reasons to believe what you do, then we shouldn't just dismiss them because we disagree with them.

What do you mean "of course"? A perfect being should be satisfied with his perfection, therefore would have no reason to create us. You expect me to believe that a perfect being...was lonely? "Of course", that is silly.
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4/26/2012 7:04:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 6:06:36 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/26/2012 10:33:02 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Anyways, all powerful or not, everything can get lonely. Do you wonder why God wants our worship? Our praise? Why he wants us to know him? Why he wants to save us, nurture us, comfort us? Why he saved us?

Because he loves us. We were put here, created by him, to love and be loved. To hold a relationship with Him. We are His children.:

Yeah, okay.

And why did he create flesh-eating bacteria? To cuddle with?


Called a Fallen World. Everything was perfect before, until sin entered the world.

Hurricanes, disease, viruses, tsunamis, asteroid impacts ect. all existed before man. How could man sinning be the reason the world is the way it is?
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4/26/2012 7:31:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/25/2012 6:29:27 PM, Rational_Thinker9119 wrote:
Do you believe:

a) God created the universe, just so we could be here
b) God created the universe with a purpose for the universe, we are just a smaller subset of this cosmic purpose.

b, why?
I am free, free indeed!

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