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The Biblical Plagues explained by Scientists

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5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

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5/28/2012 7:57:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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5/28/2012 8:11:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Heard it before and like the scientist in the movies used it as 'the explanation'.

The Reaping (2007)
http://www.imdb.com...

Maybe.

They all do make sense as to a possible mechanism.
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5/28/2012 8:18:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

http://www.christiancourier.com...

Certainly a plausible theory. Yes, it has holes in it, but overall I find it easier to believe than what is in the bible, no offense meant towards those who do. I suppose that more evidence will turn up.
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5/28/2012 8:22:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/28/2012 8:18:36 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

http://www.christiancourier.com...

Certainly a plausible theory. Yes, it has holes in it, but overall I find it easier to believe than what is in the bible, no offense meant towards those who do. I suppose that more evidence will turn up.

I believe you misunderstand from the Christian's view this gives credence to the Bible. We do not care if there is a naturalistic mechanism for the plagues.
It is impossible coincidence that God told Moses it was coming, it had meaning, it happened, in order and it effectively did everything God claimed it would.

The fact that all of the plagues were highly plausible is Biblical support not in any way a detraction.
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5/28/2012 8:27:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/28/2012 8:22:07 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:18:36 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

http://www.christiancourier.com...

Certainly a plausible theory. Yes, it has holes in it, but overall I find it easier to believe than what is in the bible, no offense meant towards those who do. I suppose that more evidence will turn up.

I believe you misunderstand from the Christian's view this gives credence to the Bible. We do not care if there is a naturalistic mechanism for the plagues.
It is impossible coincidence that God told Moses it was coming, it had meaning, it happened, in order and it effectively did everything God claimed it would.

The fact that all of the plagues were highly plausible is Biblical support not in any way a detraction.

In a way, yeah it does. I'm just speaking from my experience, mainly with Catholics. Most Catholics I know (and I try not to brand all Catholics, nor Christians like this) believe God snapped his fingers and made the plauges, and rose the red sea, etc. So of course, I'm probably missing the point made in this article, and I do apologize lol. One of the reasons I like this site are the many points of views I get to see.

Overall, I don't know what to believe, but this does both help and hurt the theory of the miracles. Depending on your points of view, it could help it more than hurt it.
The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of people's money."_Margaret Thatcher

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."_Thomas Jefferson

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."_Thomas Jefferson

"It is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled."-Mark Twain
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5/29/2012 5:37:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/28/2012 8:27:18 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:22:07 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:18:36 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

http://www.christiancourier.com...

Certainly a plausible theory. Yes, it has holes in it, but overall I find it easier to believe than what is in the bible, no offense meant towards those who do. I suppose that more evidence will turn up.

I believe you misunderstand from the Christian's view this gives credence to the Bible. We do not care if there is a naturalistic mechanism for the plagues.
It is impossible coincidence that God told Moses it was coming, it had meaning, it happened, in order and it effectively did everything God claimed it would.

The fact that all of the plagues were highly plausible is Biblical support not in any way a detraction.

In a way, yeah it does. I'm just speaking from my experience, mainly with Catholics. Most Catholics I know (and I try not to brand all Catholics, nor Christians like this) believe God snapped his fingers and made the plauges, and rose the red sea, etc. So of course, I'm probably missing the point made in this article, and I do apologize lol. One of the reasons I like this site are the many points of views I get to see.

Overall, I don't know what to believe, but this does both help and hurt the theory of the miracles. Depending on your points of view, it could help it more than hurt it.

A few Catholics believing it does =/= it does.
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"Infanticide is justified as long as the infants are below two" ~ RoyalPaladin
"Promoting female superiority is the only way to establish equality." ~ RoyalPaladin
"Jury trials should be banned. They're nothing more than opportunities for racists to destroy lives." ~ RoyalPaladin after the Zimmerman Trial.
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5/29/2012 6:26:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If supposed miracles were in fact not so miraculous, in the sense that they did not involve a temporary suspension of the natural order, and were just a part of nature that can be explained by science, doesn't that kind of negate the point of God doing miracles in the first place?
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5/29/2012 6:53:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 6:26:14 PM, jat93 wrote:
If supposed miracles were in fact not so miraculous, in the sense that they did not involve a temporary suspension of the natural order, and were just a part of nature that can be explained by science, doesn't that kind of negate the point of God doing miracles in the first place?

No. Couldn't God have used the volcano? God uses nature to so miraculous things.
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"Infanticide is justified as long as the infants are below two" ~ RoyalPaladin
"Promoting female superiority is the only way to establish equality." ~ RoyalPaladin
"Jury trials should be banned. They're nothing more than opportunities for racists to destroy lives." ~ RoyalPaladin after the Zimmerman Trial.
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5/29/2012 7:49:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 6:53:02 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 5/29/2012 6:26:14 PM, jat93 wrote:
If supposed miracles were in fact not so miraculous, in the sense that they did not involve a temporary suspension of the natural order, and were just a part of nature that can be explained by science, doesn't that kind of negate the point of God doing miracles in the first place?

No. Couldn't God have used the volcano? God uses nature to so miraculous things.

Here are two definitions of "miracle" I found:

1) an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause (from http://dictionary.reference.com...)
2) A surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is considered to be divine.

If it is a natural event that happened within the laws of science without the suspension of the natural order, I'm not sure we can really call it a miracle at all.
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5/29/2012 7:57:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 5:37:54 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:27:18 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:22:07 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 5/28/2012 8:18:36 PM, EvanK wrote:
At 5/28/2012 7:16:59 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Scientists have found that around the time the nile river supposedly turned to blood, there was a volcanic explosion. The volcanic eruption created a huge cloud over Egypt, hence the darkness. The volcano contaminated the river turning it red, thus the river turning to blood. This drove the frogs onto the land, which attracted flies and plague. The disease created boils. Finally, a force generated by the volcano forced the red sea apart, hence the red sea parting.

http://www.christiancourier.com...

Certainly a plausible theory. Yes, it has holes in it, but overall I find it easier to believe than what is in the bible, no offense meant towards those who do. I suppose that more evidence will turn up.

I believe you misunderstand from the Christian's view this gives credence to the Bible. We do not care if there is a naturalistic mechanism for the plagues.
It is impossible coincidence that God told Moses it was coming, it had meaning, it happened, in order and it effectively did everything God claimed it would.

The fact that all of the plagues were highly plausible is Biblical support not in any way a detraction.

In a way, yeah it does. I'm just speaking from my experience, mainly with Catholics. Most Catholics I know (and I try not to brand all Catholics, nor Christians like this) believe God snapped his fingers and made the plauges, and rose the red sea, etc. So of course, I'm probably missing the point made in this article, and I do apologize lol. One of the reasons I like this site are the many points of views I get to see.

Overall, I don't know what to believe, but this does both help and hurt the theory of the miracles. Depending on your points of view, it could help it more than hurt it.

A few Catholics believing it does =/= it does.

Obviously. I'm just stating that it's hard to think any other way, having spent basically my entire life around people like that.
The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of people's money."_Margaret Thatcher

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."_Thomas Jefferson

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."_Thomas Jefferson

"It is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled."-Mark Twain
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5/29/2012 7:58:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:49:57 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 6:53:02 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
At 5/29/2012 6:26:14 PM, jat93 wrote:
If supposed miracles were in fact not so miraculous, in the sense that they did not involve a temporary suspension of the natural order, and were just a part of nature that can be explained by science, doesn't that kind of negate the point of God doing miracles in the first place?

No. Couldn't God have used the volcano? God uses nature to so miraculous things.

Here are two definitions of "miracle" I found:

1) an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause (from http://dictionary.reference.com...)
2) A surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is considered to be divine.

If it is a natural event that happened within the laws of science without the suspension of the natural order, I'm not sure we can really call it a miracle at all.

My main reason for discrediting the "miracles".
The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of people's money."_Margaret Thatcher

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."_Thomas Jefferson

"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."_Thomas Jefferson

"It is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled."-Mark Twain