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Meatros
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5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?
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5/29/2012 8:49:04 AM
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Not marry them.............
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5/29/2012 10:34:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


This is why the Bible is so important to the believer, we can verify what is from God and what is not; it is an independent witness:

1Corinthians 7:13-14
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.


So I would quickly dismiss this as from the enemy as it disagrees with God's word.
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Meatros
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5/29/2012 10:44:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 10:34:23 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


This is why the Bible is so important to the believer, we can verify what is from God and what is not; it is an independent witness:

1Corinthians 7:13-14
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.


So I would quickly dismiss this as from the enemy as it disagrees with God's word.

I'm not sure how either of your quotes address what I was asking. The 1 Cor quote assumes that you would already be married. My hypothetical does not.

As to testing, in what way would the revelation have failed the test? Further, the presupposition is that it's a legitimate revelation.
Gileandos
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5/29/2012 10:59:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

I find this to be a great question and I post here a relevant religious experience that Homosexuals have had calling them to leave this lifestyle.
The Video involves the father raping his son at the age of five and then gang raping his son at the age of 10. (The lifestyle of gay relationships was later and due to the rape.)

The direct point is that God calls many people to leave the things of the world 'they love'.
Jesus uses references of even leaving family that they certainly love and Loving God more.
Luke Chapter 14:
25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. 27 And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

This experience is very common within Christianity. In my own life, I was called, by God, to leave my relationship with my adult siblings and parents whom I loved deeply. I had to break my deep blood familial commitment and relationship with my very parents and siblings.

After saving myself, through a very hard road, I am now able to aid my family in a way that I never could before. Now I can 'really' love them.

Even more focused on your post, imagine a deep relationship in any sinful concept that God may call you out of:
An adulterous loving relationship
An incestuous loving relationship
A loving relationship born of fornication

All of these billions throughout history have given up for God, so that they could love those people properly rather than improperly. There is a 'more perfect' love in God. As with the video, the gentleman was able to actually forgive such a monster.

Perfect Love.
cbrhawk1
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5/29/2012 11:25:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

Your best to abide by the words of God. Enough said. If God tells you to drop everything, then you just do it. There is no hesitation, no thinking, no questioning. It's the only way to do things the right way if you e absolutely sure that God is talking to you.
"All science is 'wrong.'" ~ drafterman
tBoonePickens
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5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!
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: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
westernmarch
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5/29/2012 1:12:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

lol man. What the he||?
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tBoonePickens
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5/29/2012 1:17:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:12:59 PM, westernmarch wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

lol man. What the he||?
It's the second forum you've derailed; "Are Bricks Atheists" being the first.
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
Rusty
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5/29/2012 1:22:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

How was that gay? o.O
westernmarch
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5/29/2012 1:23:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:22:05 PM, Rusty wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

How was that gay? o.O

Fingering God.
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Rusty
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5/29/2012 1:25:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:23:12 PM, westernmarch wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:22:05 PM, Rusty wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

How was that gay? o.O

Fingering God.

...I thought you meant flipping off... You know, that rude gesture with your hand?
tBoonePickens
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5/29/2012 1:27:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 1:25:54 PM, Rusty wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:23:12 PM, westernmarch wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:22:05 PM, Rusty wrote:
At 5/29/2012 1:11:48 PM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 5/29/2012 12:42:16 PM, westernmarch wrote:
I give God the finger.
Gay derailed, again!

How was that gay? o.O

Fingering God.

...I thought you meant flipping off... You know, that rude gesture with your hand?
Didn't think of it that way, but it was from the first thread he derailed in which westernmarch claims that a comment from another man about a brick made him hard.
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
ScottyDouglas
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5/29/2012 3:30:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This happens all the time in many different ways. God wishes man to behave a certain way and they do not. You always pray to God to show you the truth and lead you to His desires, not yours. Yours mean nothing.
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5/30/2012 6:36:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

Basically that is the exact situation I was in back in 1996. I had found an awesome girl and loved her. Then many many things happened...I received a revelation from God that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He was crucified for the sins of the world. Then I received revelation after that from God of which Church was His and which He wanted me to join. I did join that Church...my girlfriend did not understand, she had not received the same revelations that I had. Many other things happened (we even got married)... but ultimately the short story is that God made it known that we had to go our separate ways. It was actually the hardest thing I have had to do in my life - to divorce her. But I never regret following the commandments of God in this thing...even though to this very day I am still not married to anyone. Obedience to God is the most important thing...this life is just an eyeblink compared to eternity.
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5/30/2012 6:40:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 10:44:24 AM, Meatros wrote:
At 5/29/2012 10:34:23 AM, DATCMOTO wrote:
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


This is why the Bible is so important to the believer, we can verify what is from God and what is not; it is an independent witness:

1Corinthians 7:13-14
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.


So I would quickly dismiss this as from the enemy as it disagrees with God's word.

I'm not sure how either of your quotes address what I was asking. The 1 Cor quote assumes that you would already be married. My hypothetical does not.

As to testing, in what way would the revelation have failed the test? Further, the presupposition is that it's a legitimate revelation.

His quotes were to exemplify that according to the doctrine, we are to be skeptical.

So, if we had a supernatural experience that commanded something irrational of us, we should investigate the situation further rather than follow it blindly.
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5/30/2012 6:49:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?


ALTER2EGO -to- MEATROS:
If you had such an experience, I can guarantee it wasn't from God. It was most likely contact from the demon.

Counsel from Jehovah is found in his inspired Word, the Judeo-Christian Bible. God does not contact people in person to tell them who to marry or who not to marry. He has more important things to do--such as running the universe.
"That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." (Psalms 83:18)
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5/30/2012 7:36:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:52:39 AM, Meatros wrote:
Let us suppose that you are in a committed relationship. You love this person with all of your heart and you plan on taking that commitment to the next level (be it marriage, living together, etc). The day you are planning to announce your intentions to your significant other, you have an unquestionable experience from the God you believe in. This God states in a completely unambiguous way that you are not to continue seeing the love of your life. You are to cut contact with them without even saying good bye.

Before you can question your God, the experience is over. This experience is unmistakable, if any experience is an experience of God, this was it.

So, what do you do?

Well, I don't personally believe God contacts humans on a daily basis, or ever in fact, so if I got such a feeling, I would acredit it to me being nervous about such a commitment, and brush it off because I love that person, and want to make her happy. Why take a chance?
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