Total Posts:33|Showing Posts:1-30|Last Page
Jump to topic:

Theory of evolution-big bang is Hog-Wash

ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:18:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I believe in the Bible. I believe it cover to cover.

The evolutionary theory is based on two false assumptions:
1. Mutations make new species.
2. Natural selection makes the species survive and take over.

There are six types of evolution so lets see which ones are real:
1. Cosmic- No evidence for the origin of time, space, and matter.
2. Chemical- The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar planet- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic- Origin of organic life.
5. Macro- Changing from one animal to another.
6. Micro- is various changes.

A few questions:
1. How do we get all the elements?
2. How do we get synthetic elements?
3. How do chemical evolve?
4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?
5. With all the mutations has anyone ever seen a species evolve into another?
6. In the Big Bang what exploded?
7. Where the energy come from?
8. Where the matter come from?
9. Where are the intermidate fossils for woodpeckers?
10. How did woodpeckers evolve?

Most will claim that it is a debate between science and creation but it is not. Because the Big bang and evolution are not science at all.
TheAsylum
Illegalcombatant
Posts: 4,008
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 3:58:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:18:32 AM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
I believe in the Bible. I believe it cover to cover.

The evolutionary theory is based on two false assumptions:
1. Mutations make new species.

2. Natural selection makes the species survive and take over.

There are six types of evolution so lets see which ones are real:
1. Cosmic- No evidence for the origin of time, space, and matter.
2. Chemical- The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar planet- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic- Origin of organic life.
5. Macro- Changing from one animal to another.
6. Micro- is various changes.

A few questions:
1. How do we get all the elements?
2. How do we get synthetic elements?
3. How do chemical evolve?
4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?
5. With all the mutations has anyone ever seen a species evolve into another?
6. In the Big Bang what exploded?
7. Where the energy come from?
8. Where the matter come from?
9. Where are the intermidate fossils for woodpeckers?
10. How did woodpeckers evolve?

Most will claim that it is a debate between science and creation but it is not. Because the Big bang and evolution are not science at all.

My answer to every question you ask is I don't know. And if we don't know something that's how we prove God did it right ? through ignorance ? why isn't this inference to the the supernatural based on ignorance taught as a science ? damm atheists.

When will people learn we find God in the things we are ignorant about, the more things we are ignorant about the better, for the more opportunities we have to say God did it. Ignorance............its a good thing.

Say would you like to hear about how the tides goes in tide goes out and you can't explain that ?
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 5:52:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I can keep going with questions.
But I think these need answering before evolution or Big bang should ever be entertained by science. Just because you have a theory so broad that any evidence against it is supressed. Im pretty sure you or whoever has the burden of answering these questions that are important. But somehow because no one in science answer them that they are not important to their theory.

I stick by my statement: It is Hog-wash.
TheAsylum
Illegalcombatant
Posts: 4,008
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 6:45:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
You miss the point, or maybe you do get the point and don't want to acknowledge it. Around here we were not born yesterday. We know how certain religious folk love to point out the mysterious, and thus imply God did it. Suffice to say, if you can only find God in what we don't understand then so much the worse for your theology.

You also miss another point, you said evolution is hog wash. I don't anything said by you that proves evolution false. You just claim its hog wash cause it has unanswered questions ? Ok, two can play that game, can you explain why God made humans with 4 fingers and 1 thumb, why not 6 fingers ? oh you can't explain that therefore hog wash.

Before you start attacking evolution how about you read what evolution claims and the evidence that is used too support it, not how evolution is portrayed in certain christian realms. Evolution can't be true, we don't see apes give birth to humans herp derp.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 6:49:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:18:32 AM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
I believe in the Bible. I believe it cover to cover.

Even when it includes bats among a list of birds? (Leviticus 11:13-19; Deuteronomy 14:11-17)
Even when it says rabbits chew cud (they don't)? (Leviticus 11:6)
Even when it says the Earth doesn't move? (Psalms 93:1; 1 Chronicles 16:30; Psalms 104:5)


The evolutionary theory is based on two false assumptions:
1. Mutations make new species.
2. Natural selection makes the species survive and take over.

Wrong. Evolutionary theory is based upon observations. We have observed existing life and through those observations conclude that all living things are descedent from a common origin through the process of evolution (descent with modification).

Mutation and natural selection are posited as the mechanisms through which evolution happens, they are not prior assumptions.


There are six types of evolution so lets see which ones are real:
1. Cosmic- No evidence for the origin of time, space, and matter.
2. Chemical- The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar planet- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic- Origin of organic life.
5. Macro- Changing from one animal to another.
6. Micro- is various changes.

Bogus. "Evolution" as a general term can apply to a wide variety of things, not just six. Evolution as a specific scientific theory only pertains to the evolution of life from a common ancestor.


A few questions:
1. How do we get all the elements?

http://en.wikipedia.org...

2. How do we get synthetic elements?

Scientists make like Hulk and they SMASH! Also, fission.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

3. How do chemical evolve?

Chemicals aren't living beings, so they aren't subject to the theory of evolution.

4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?

We have.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

5. With all the mutations has anyone ever seen a species evolve into another?

Yes.
http://www.talkorigins.org...

6. In the Big Bang what exploded?

Nothing exploded. The Big Bang wasn't an explosion.

7. Where the energy come from?

Ultimately? We don't know.

8. Where the matter come from?

From the energy. E=MC^2

9. Where are the intermidate fossils for woodpeckers?

I don't know.

10. How did woodpeckers evolve?

The same way all other organisms evolved, presumably.


Most will claim that it is a debate between science and creation but it is not. Because the Big bang and evolution are not science at all.
stubs
Posts: 1,887
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 7:27:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why are we assuming the big bang and God are incompatible? I've seen a corny bumper sticker that said, "The big bang theory, God said Bang, and it happened" Although corny I do think it has some truth to it as I do not see a contradiction between the big bang and God.
phantom
Posts: 6,774
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 9:44:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 7:27:45 AM, stubs wrote:
Why are we assuming the big bang and God are incompatible? I've seen a corny bumper sticker that said, "The big bang theory, God said Bang, and it happened" Although corny I do think it has some truth to it as I do not see a contradiction between the big bang and God.

Not to mention evolution.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
Rusty
Posts: 2,109
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 11:22:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 7:27:45 AM, stubs wrote:
Why are we assuming the big bang and God are incompatible? I've seen a corny bumper sticker that said, "The big bang theory, God said Bang, and it happened" Although corny I do think it has some truth to it as I do not see a contradiction between the big bang and God.

I don't think that it's God that's incompatible with the BBT, I think that certain interpretations of religious passages can lead to some mildly incoherent beliefs about the beginning of the universe.
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.
TheAsylum
phantom
Posts: 6,774
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:19:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

You're gloating at the thought of someone spending eternity in agony and torment? That thoroughly disgusts me. But why do you refrain from responding to drafterman?
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

You see, when a Christian such as yourself (or at least the Christian persona you are portraying, in the likely event you are a Poe) comes here, spouting this nonsense, it is often under the guise of trying to "save" people. Spreading the "good" news.

Yet the tone is all wrong. Instead of acting out of genuine concern for souls that you genuinely believe are at risk for eternal punishment, your purpose here, simply put, is to gloat. You believe you are saved and we are not; you believe we deserve what we are going to get; and rather acting out of some concern you merely wish to taunt this belief. You're going to heaven, we're going to hell, na na na na boo boo.

Now, I say you are likely a Poe, and I stand by that, however, in practice I genereally give people the benefit of the doubt, so I am going to treat you as the genuine thing.

You are a despicable human being. Though the tangled, nonsensical mess that is the mythological book you call "The Bible" fails to present any sort of coherent message worth adhering to, the cognitive dissonance and selective reading of Christians today nevertheless has produced a general message of love for one another.

However, you are but one among many Christians who hide behind this message, acting in exact contrast to its intent while paradoxically claiming to be acting in accordance with it. The tone of your post, gleefully describing that we will suffer eternal torment, is sociopathic, deplorable, and abhorrent.

You, specifically, are: ignorant, stupid, petty, short-sighted, narrow-minded, cruel, oblivious, uninteresting, uncreative, and are an all around waste of space.

Good day sir.
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:21:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
No, It saddens me. But it does not sadden them is what the problem is. I keep it real! I am not playing ill use any tatic. You seem to think eternity is a game it is not. Sarcaism is fair game.
TheAsylum
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:36:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 6:49:41 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:18:32 AM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
I believe in the Bible. I believe it cover to cover.

Even when it includes bats among a list of birds? (Leviticus 11:13-19; Deuteronomy 14:11-17)
Even when it says rabbits chew cud (they don't)? (Leviticus 11:6)
Even when it says the Earth doesn't move? (Psalms 93:1; 1 Chronicles 16:30; Psalms 104:5)


The evolutionary theory is based on two false assumptions:
1. Mutations make new species.
2. Natural selection makes the species survive and take over.

Wrong. Evolutionary theory is based upon observations. We have observed existing life and through those observations conclude that all living things are descedent from a common origin through the process of evolution (descent with modification).

Mutation and natural selection are posited as the mechanisms through which evolution happens, they are not prior assumptions.


There are six types of evolution so lets see which ones are real:
1. Cosmic- No evidence for the origin of time, space, and matter.
2. Chemical- The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar planet- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic- Origin of organic life.
5. Macro- Changing from one animal to another.
6. Micro- is various changes.

Bogus. "Evolution" as a general term can apply to a wide variety of things, not just six. Evolution as a specific scientific theory only pertains to the evolution of life from a common ancestor.


A few questions:
1. How do we get all the elements?

http://en.wikipedia.org...

2. How do we get synthetic elements?

Scientists make like Hulk and they SMASH! Also, fission.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

3. How do chemical evolve?

Chemicals aren't living beings, so they aren't subject to the theory of evolution.

4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?

We have.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

5. With all the mutations has anyone ever seen a species evolve into another?

Yes.
http://www.talkorigins.org...

6. In the Big Bang what exploded?

Nothing exploded. The Big Bang wasn't an explosion.

7. Where the energy come from?

Ultimately? We don't know.

8. Where the matter come from?

From the energy. E=MC^2

9. Where are the intermidate fossils for woodpeckers?

I don't know.

10. How did woodpeckers evolve?

The same way all other organisms evolved, presumably.


Most will claim that it is a debate between science and creation but it is not. Because the Big bang and evolution are not science at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
I go here and right off the bat it says; 'It is thought', It starts off iffy. Few sentences down, it says, 'may have been.' Dont like that either, makes me skeptic. But ill keep going. Woah! It says,' This theoretically happened .' What? It sounds like belief and assumptions to me, IDK?

"Chemicals aren't living beings, so they aren't subject to the theory of evolution"
So we had all elements present at the Big Bang?

4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?

We have.
That was still very speculative.

Mutation and natural selection are posited as the mechanisms through which evolution happens, they are not prior assumptions.
Speak for yourself.

Bogus. "Evolution" as a general term can apply to a wide variety of things, not just six. Evolution as a specific scientific theory only pertains to the evolution of life from a common ancestor.
How did it form? and continue to form into what it did today?

Scientists make like Hulk and they SMASH! Also, fission.
This did not have nothing but more assuming. Im serious.

yes.
Tumors? and species interbreeding? If you interbreed of course you will become different.

Nothing exploded. The Big Bang wasn't an explosion.
What was it again. Im sorry?

From the energy. E=MC^2
How did time form and start?

The same way all other organisms evolved, presumably
Yeah presumeably
TheAsylum
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/30/2012 2:39:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

You see, when a Christian such as yourself (or at least the Christian persona you are portraying, in the likely event you are a Poe) comes here, spouting this nonsense, it is often under the guise of trying to "save" people. Spreading the "good" news.

Yet the tone is all wrong. Instead of acting out of genuine concern for souls that you genuinely believe are at risk for eternal punishment, your purpose here, simply put, is to gloat. You believe you are saved and we are not; you believe we deserve what we are going to get; and rather acting out of some concern you merely wish to taunt this belief. You're going to heaven, we're going to hell, na na na na boo boo.

Now, I say you are likely a Poe, and I stand by that, however, in practice I genereally give people the benefit of the doubt, so I am going to treat you as the genuine thing.

You are a despicable human being. Though the tangled, nonsensical mess that is the mythological book you call "The Bible" fails to present any sort of coherent message worth adhering to, the cognitive dissonance and selective reading of Christians today nevertheless has produced a general message of love for one another.

However, you are but one among many Christians who hide behind this message, acting in exact contrast to its intent while paradoxically claiming to be acting in accordance with it. The tone of your post, gleefully describing that we will suffer eternal torment, is sociopathic, deplorable, and abhorrent.

You, specifically, are: ignorant, stupid, petty, short-sighted, narrow-minded, cruel, oblivious, uninteresting, uncreative, and are an all around waste of space.

Good day sir.

Call me what you want. I simply said the truth.
Good day to you.
TheAsylum
PabloM
Posts: 2
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 6:36:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
ScottyDouglas, I wonder if you've even realised how dishonest your reasoning is here. You demand concrete answers on diverse and highly specialised fields, take honest acknowledgements of incomplete knowledge or data as a concession of failure, and decline to to even put forward a hypothesis of your own other than appeals to your mythology of choice.

Imagine a CSI team is examining a murder scene. They're experienced professionals, they know what they're doing. An arrogant teenager strides in and demands know what happened here. For the purposes of this illustration, they don't immediately send him packing but humour him. They explain their initial findings of the crime-scene: there are indications of a struggle etc; hair, blood, fingerprint and ballistics samples have been sent for analysis; neighbours are being questioned.
The kid then sneers. He mocks them for not having all the answers. He owns an old book that says that murders are always committed by the butler. The investigators glance at each other in bemusement. That's irrelevant in this instance, they explain. The victim lived in a small apartment in a poor part of town. He didn't have a butler. But the teen doesn't listen. I believe my book, he says. I believe it cover to cover. Even if the victim didn't have a butler, it must still be true. Maybe it was someone else's butler. In any case, he says, I know I'm right, but you can't even answer my questions about the specifics of the case.
That's true, they reply, but we're gathering data and analysing evidence. The entire investigation is driven by the evidence and what it can tell us. What connection does an old book have to this active investigation? What possible evidentiary link could there be?

Tell me, ScottyDouglas, is forensic investigation hogwash too...?
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 6:47:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:36:09 PM, PabloM wrote:
ScottyDouglas, I wonder if you've even realised how dishonest your reasoning is here. You demand concrete answers on diverse and highly specialised fields, take honest acknowledgements of incomplete knowledge or data as a concession of failure, and decline to to even put forward a hypothesis of your own other than appeals to your mythology of choice.

Imagine a CSI team is examining a murder scene. They're experienced professionals, they know what they're doing. An arrogant teenager strides in and demands know what happened here. For the purposes of this illustration, they don't immediately send him packing but humour him. They explain their initial findings of the crime-scene: there are indications of a struggle etc; hair, blood, fingerprint and ballistics samples have been sent for analysis; neighbours are being questioned.
The kid then sneers. He mocks them for not having all the answers. He owns an old book that says that murders are always committed by the butler. The investigators glance at each other in bemusement. That's irrelevant in this instance, they explain. The victim lived in a small apartment in a poor part of town. He didn't have a butler. But the teen doesn't listen. I believe my book, he says. I believe it cover to cover. Even if the victim didn't have a butler, it must still be true. Maybe it was someone else's butler. In any case, he says, I know I'm right, but you can't even answer my questions about the specifics of the case.
That's true, they reply, but we're gathering data and analysing evidence. The entire investigation is driven by the evidence and what it can tell us. What connection does an old book have to this active investigation? What possible evidentiary link could there be?

Tell me, ScottyDouglas, is forensic investigation hogwash too...?

What connection does an old book have to this active investigation? What possible evidentiary link could there be?
It has everything to do with it. Are you saying that because you are exsperts in a field that someone who is not cant come up with answers because you can not? Or are you saying that because a whole alot of scientist in many different fields converge a theory and accept it means it is real, true, and shoudl be accepted by all?
TheAsylum
DetectableNinja
Posts: 6,043
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 7:06:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
As Illegalcombat said, this is not our first rodeo.

Throwing out questions and saying "Ha! You don't know. Therefore, God," is VERY dangerous--both for what it endorses, and for the precedent it sets intellectually.

There's actual evidence of possible alternatives to the biblical Genesis, whereas there's practically NO evidence that says God exists--besides an ancient book which says that God turned a woman into salt for simply looking at the destruction He caused behind her.

I've said this before: it's not our job to answer every one of your silly questions--especially when they're all meant to catch an atheist offguard so you can tell a story at church about how you outsmarted the wicked atheist.

Also--I find you're revelling in the eternal suffering of others, even if it is fictional, to be absolutely sickening. For shame.
Think'st thou heaven is such a glorious thing?
I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

- Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus
stubs
Posts: 1,887
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 7:48:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:19:04 PM, phantom wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

You're gloating at the thought of someone spending eternity in agony and torment? That thoroughly disgusts me. But why do you refrain from responding to drafterman?

I agree that's disgusting.
SuburbiaSurvivor
Posts: 872
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 8:43:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

Well, if it's any consolation, drafterman, I don't really want you to go to hell.
"I'm going to tell you something that you're never going to forget, SuburbiaSurvivor. Women... Are just human beings"
Paradox_7
Posts: 1,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 8:47:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 3:58:06 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:18:32 AM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
I believe in the Bible. I believe it cover to cover.

The evolutionary theory is based on two false assumptions:
1. Mutations make new species.

2. Natural selection makes the species survive and take over.

There are six types of evolution so lets see which ones are real:
1. Cosmic- No evidence for the origin of time, space, and matter.
2. Chemical- The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar planet- Origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic- Origin of organic life.
5. Macro- Changing from one animal to another.
6. Micro- is various changes.

A few questions:
1. How do we get all the elements?
2. How do we get synthetic elements?
3. How do chemical evolve?
4. Why have went witnessed stars exploding and none forming?
5. With all the mutations has anyone ever seen a species evolve into another?
6. In the Big Bang what exploded?
7. Where the energy come from?
8. Where the matter come from?
9. Where are the intermidate fossils for woodpeckers?
10. How did woodpeckers evolve?

Most will claim that it is a debate between science and creation but it is not. Because the Big bang and evolution are not science at all.

My answer to every question you ask is I don't know. And if we don't know something that's how we prove God did it right ? through ignorance ? why isn't this inference to the the supernatural based on ignorance taught as a science ? damm atheists.

When will people learn we find God in the things we are ignorant about, the more things we are ignorant about the better, for the more opportunities we have to say God did it. Ignorance............its a good thing.

Say would you like to hear about how the tides goes in tide goes out and you can't explain that ?


So would you rather everyone renounce God, until he is proven by science or some other method.

you would rather all people risk eternal torment, just so that our human curiosity is satisfied.

Now, i do not believe we have a choice as to what we believe, but I'm assuming you do.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
Paradox_7
Posts: 1,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 8:54:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

You see, when a Christian such as yourself (or at least the Christian persona you are portraying, in the likely event you are a Poe) comes here, spouting this nonsense, it is often under the guise of trying to "save" people. Spreading the "good" news.

Yet the tone is all wrong. Instead of acting out of genuine concern for souls that you genuinely believe are at risk for eternal punishment, your purpose here, simply put, is to gloat. You believe you are saved and we are not; you believe we deserve what we are going to get; and rather acting out of some concern you merely wish to taunt this belief. You're going to heaven, we're going to hell, na na na na boo boo.

Now, I say you are likely a Poe, and I stand by that, however, in practice I genereally give people the benefit of the doubt, so I am going to treat you as the genuine thing.

You are a despicable human being. Though the tangled, nonsensical mess that is the mythological book you call "The Bible" fails to present any sort of coherent message worth adhering to, the cognitive dissonance and selective reading of Christians today nevertheless has produced a general message of love for one another.

However, you are but one among many Christians who hide behind this message, acting in exact contrast to its intent while paradoxically claiming to be acting in accordance with it. The tone of your post, gleefully describing that we will suffer eternal torment, is sociopathic, deplorable, and abhorrent.

You, specifically, are: ignorant, stupid, petty, short-sighted, narrow-minded, cruel, oblivious, uninteresting, uncreative, and are an all around waste of space.

Good day sir.


LMAO.. he's got a point if you still think you are saved by your effort to be so (Scotty).

On the other hand, you sir, are hilarious. You obviously, much like the rest of the smart-a$$ atheists on this sight, have no idea what is in the bible, and simply wish to establish your intellegence as some how superior to the theists.

nigguh plz..

the bible is very "coherent" easy to read and easy to understand; if you put in the effort to know it, and if you have the holy spirit to grant you understanding.

You might have it, you might not.. We preach the gospel, oh lawdy!, in hope's that some of you are saved and simly need to hear the good news in order to realize it and start living free ;)
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:04:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 8:43:12 PM, SuburbiaSurvivor wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

Well, if it's any consolation, drafterman, I don't really want you to go to hell.

Which is why I made sure to qualify my rant. Nevertheless, I've come across plenty of Christians that take positive glee in telling people that they are going to hell. Reason Alliance is another. This situation elicits nothing but humor to him.

Surely the Bible must say something about laughing at the misfortune of others.
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:11:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drafterman:
I apologize. I mean you know harm.
I do not want to burn in hell. I do not want anyone to. I find it tear-jerking, literally that someone will.
If you do not believe in God, you will.
I do not want that. But it is not my choice.
It is yours.
I saddens and at times angers me to see people just refuse it.
The rely on thier extravigant reasoning skills to justify that God does not exist. When they know history says something different.
Mayve one day you finally see. God Bless!
TheAsylum
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:13:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 9:04:40 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/31/2012 8:43:12 PM, SuburbiaSurvivor wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

Well, if it's any consolation, drafterman, I don't really want you to go to hell.

Which is why I made sure to qualify my rant. Nevertheless, I've come across plenty of Christians that take positive glee in telling people that they are going to hell. Reason Alliance is another. This situation elicits nothing but humor to him.

Surely the Bible must say something about laughing at the misfortune of others.

Not reason alliance, paradox 7. Sorry!
SuburbiaSurvivor
Posts: 872
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:14:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:06:08 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
As Illegalcombat said, this is not our first rodeo.

Throwing out questions and saying "Ha! You don't know. Therefore, God," is VERY dangerous--both for what it endorses, and for the precedent it sets intellectually.

There's actual evidence of possible alternatives to the biblical Genesis, whereas there's practically NO evidence that says God exists--besides an ancient book which says that God turned a woman into salt for simply looking at the destruction He caused behind her.

Well, evidence doesn't generally speak for itself, now does it? It takes one to interpret that evidence, huh? ;)
"I'm going to tell you something that you're never going to forget, SuburbiaSurvivor. Women... Are just human beings"
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:15:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I make no choice in which I believe the outcome will be Hell. Thus, to say I am choosing Hell is incorrect.

Also, you are either a Poe or a despicable waste of human filth. In either case I have no interest in holding conversation with you.
SuburbiaSurvivor
Posts: 872
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:16:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 9:04:40 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/31/2012 8:43:12 PM, SuburbiaSurvivor wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:19:12 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 5/30/2012 2:06:55 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
LaLaLa! And we are still spinning the bottle at one another. Science can answer all of your questions, Except the ones they do not know and admit they may never. Tell'em what they won, Eternity in Hell.

And here, you hint at the true intentions of some Christians.

Well, if it's any consolation, drafterman, I don't really want you to go to hell.

Which is why I made sure to qualify my rant. Nevertheless, I've come across plenty of Christians that take positive glee in telling people that they are going to hell. Reason Alliance is another. This situation elicits nothing but humor to him.

Surely the Bible must say something about laughing at the misfortune of others.

Oh, I know. I could tell by your addition of the word "some" that you were not referring to us all. I just wanted you to know that I don't feel that way. I may disagree with you on pretty much every issue, but I certainly don't derive much pleasure in the thought of you going to hell.
"I'm going to tell you something that you're never going to forget, SuburbiaSurvivor. Women... Are just human beings"
popculturepooka
Posts: 7,924
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:17:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I thought this said "Theory of evolution-big bang is Hog-Warts" at first and I got excited. :/
At 10/3/2016 11:49:13 PM, thett3 wrote:
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
ScottyDouglas
Posts: 2,350
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:18:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 9:15:34 PM, drafterman wrote:
I make no choice in which I believe the outcome will be Hell. Thus, to say I am choosing Hell is incorrect.

Also, you are either a Poe or a despicable waste of human filth. In either case I have no interest in holding conversation with you.

We see who is both the descriptions you posted. Not myself. I still say God Bless you.
TheAsylum
drafterman
Posts: 18,870
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
5/31/2012 9:20:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 9:17:41 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
I thought this said "Theory of evolution-big bang is Hog-Warts" at first and I got excited. :/

House Elves: Slaves or Servants? Teach the controversy.