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2nd verse of the Star Spangled Banner

GenesisCreation
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7/3/2012 7:18:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
How many people knew this existed?
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000ike
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7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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7/3/2012 7:54:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM, 000ike wrote:
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"

They're like riders on bills: tacked on the end on the notion that people are only ever going to notice the first part and tacitly agree to the whole thing.

For example, the last verse to the Star Spangled Banner is the recipe for KFC.
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7/3/2012 7:56:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song,
Shall retain in the world,
Their old lovely ring
To inspire us to noble deeds
Our whole life long.
German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song.

That's the 2nd verse of the original German anthem. After the war, only the 3rd verse is used as the official anthem.

Unity and law and freedom
For the German Fatherland
Let us all strive for that
In brotherhood with heart and hand!
Unity and law and freedom
Are the foundation for happiness
Bloom in the glow of happiness
Bloom, German Fatherland.
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7/3/2012 7:59:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 7:54:52 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM, 000ike wrote:
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"

They're like riders on bills: tacked on the end on the notion that people are only ever going to notice the first part and tacitly agree to the whole thing.

For example, the last verse to the Star Spangled Banner is the recipe for KFC.

I highly doubt that they where added like a "fine print" contractual clause. They where meant to be heard. It is far more likely that a secular, humanistic political system is treating them like fine print, in the hopes that we don't find cause to debate our roots and question our national direction.
Um....You've got a log in your eye.
"I would be suspicious of an argument without any concessions." - John Dickson
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7/3/2012 8:00:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 7:59:22 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:54:52 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM, 000ike wrote:
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"

They're like riders on bills: tacked on the end on the notion that people are only ever going to notice the first part and tacitly agree to the whole thing.

For example, the last verse to the Star Spangled Banner is the recipe for KFC.

I highly doubt that they where added like a "fine print" contractual clause. They where meant to be heard. It is far more likely that a secular, humanistic political system is treating them like fine print, in the hopes that we don't find cause to debate our roots and question our national direction.

You're right. My post was completely serious and not at all tongue-in-cheek.
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7/3/2012 8:10:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 8:00:43 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:59:22 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:54:52 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM, 000ike wrote:
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"

They're like riders on bills: tacked on the end on the notion that people are only ever going to notice the first part and tacitly agree to the whole thing.

For example, the last verse to the Star Spangled Banner is the recipe for KFC.

I highly doubt that they where added like a "fine print" contractual clause. They where meant to be heard. It is far more likely that a secular, humanistic political system is treating them like fine print, in the hopes that we don't find cause to debate our roots and question our national direction.

You're right. My post was completely serious and not at all tongue-in-cheek.

Ah, fluent in sarcasm, eh? Not I.
Um....You've got a log in your eye.
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7/3/2012 8:15:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 8:10:14 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
At 7/3/2012 8:00:43 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:59:22 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:54:52 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:40:30 AM, 000ike wrote:
Why are the 2nd verses always more militant? The 2nd verse of the UK National Anthem is the most brutal thing I've ever heard in song:

"O lord God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their knavish tricks,
Frustrate their politics,
On thee our hopes we fix,
God save the Queen"

They're like riders on bills: tacked on the end on the notion that people are only ever going to notice the first part and tacitly agree to the whole thing.

For example, the last verse to the Star Spangled Banner is the recipe for KFC.

I highly doubt that they where added like a "fine print" contractual clause. They where meant to be heard. It is far more likely that a secular, humanistic political system is treating them like fine print, in the hopes that we don't find cause to debate our roots and question our national direction.

You're right. My post was completely serious and not at all tongue-in-cheek.

Ah, fluent in sarcasm, eh? Not I.

So, you went and checked to see if last verse of the Star Spangled banner actually had the recipe for KFC?
GenesisCreation
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7/3/2012 8:53:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Yes. Yes I did....and it doesn't.
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7/3/2012 9:14:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 7:18:58 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
How many people knew this existed?



Well there's generally more than one verse to a song. I looked it up one day, and yes, I have heard it.
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7/3/2012 10:10:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/3/2012 9:14:19 AM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 7/3/2012 7:18:58 AM, GenesisCreation wrote:
How many people knew this existed?



Well there's generally more than one verse to a song. I looked it up one day, and yes, I have heard it.

But it mentions "God" in it so we MUST get rid of it!
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