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000ike
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7/5/2012 5:30:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If God is transcendent,....then you can't know anything about God. You can't know if his actions are logical, you can't know if he exists, you can't know anything. ...and God has to be transcendent, otherwise, he is not a God.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
Gileandos
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7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.
Gileandos
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7/5/2012 5:37:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:30:18 PM, 000ike wrote:
If God is transcendent,....then you can't know anything about God. You can't know if his actions are logical, you can't know if he exists, you can't know anything. ...and God has to be transcendent, otherwise, he is not a God.

I believe you are referencing an uninvolved God. To say God being transcendent thus means he cannot interact is a false dilemma.

Nothing precludes him from being both, unless you want to argue from definition to create a paradox which is pointless and absurd.
Aaronroy
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7/5/2012 6:04:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Personal experience?

http://memecrunch.com...
turn down for h'what
Paradox_7
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7/5/2012 6:32:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 6:04:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Personal experience?

http://memecrunch.com...

http://www.google.com...
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
Gileandos
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7/5/2012 7:03:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 6:04:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Personal experience?

http://memecrunch.com...

lol, thank you for validating the 'checkmate' part of that title.
Tnkissfan
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7/5/2012 11:25:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 6:32:27 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/5/2012 6:04:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Personal experience?

http://memecrunch.com...

http://www.google.com...

This is what you do when you don't have an answer??
Stephen_Hawkins
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7/6/2012 1:31:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Is it true that evangelical Christians, when they convert, must cut out from their uterus the ability do detect satire?
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to be Gay, he'll positively influence the GDP.

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Wallstreetatheist
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7/6/2012 1:53:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 7:03:39 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 6:04:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

That was a direct response to such foolish videos. The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

Personal experience?

http://memecrunch.com...

lol, thank you for validating the 'checkmate' part of that title.
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Kinesis
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7/6/2012 2:33:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
"He's livin on the inside, rollin' like a li-on"

Pretty nice beat. Not sure how the existence of moderately talented Christian bands constitutes checkmating atheists however.
Composer
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7/6/2012 2:42:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

. . . . . . . . The video I posted is NOT filled with strawman arguments. The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.
1. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thess. 5:21) KJV Story book

2. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry . {make...; or, fulfil} (2 Tim. 4:5) KJV Story book

You and those like you remain unambiguously defeated so get going asap with your proofs otherwise or else remain a liar and a self deluded fraud?
twocupcakes
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7/6/2012 7:07:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:35:44 PM, Gileandos wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:

The personal experience of God can never and will never be defeated.

There are personal experiences for hundreds or thousands of Gods. All these "personal experiences" cannot be God. If your personal experiences are of your God, it is by random chance.
Microsuck
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7/6/2012 9:06:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Are you aware that this guy is satire?
Wall of Fail

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tBoonePickens
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7/6/2012 9:59:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:


PrayerMax 5000 is $69.99...but if you turn that upside down it's $66.69 the number of the Beast (and 9)! It must be the work of the Devil! Let's all go get those Godless atheists!
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
Stephen_Hawkins
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7/6/2012 10:57:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/6/2012 9:59:08 AM, tBoonePickens wrote:
At 7/5/2012 5:31:09 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:


PrayerMax 5000 is $69.99...but if you turn that upside down it's $66.69 the number of the Beast (and 9)! It must be the work of the Devil! Let's all go get those Godless atheists!

Good golly! 666 AND nine?! I am convinced!
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to be Gay, he'll positively influence the GDP.

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tBoonePickens
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7/6/2012 4:50:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/6/2012 10:57:07 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 7/6/2012 9:59:08 AM, tBoonePickens wrote:
PrayerMax 5000 is $69.99...but if you turn that upside down it's $66.69 the number of the Beast (and 9)! It must be the work of the Devil! Let's all go get those Godless atheists!

Good golly! 666 AND nine?! I am convinced!
Yes! it must mean it's 9 times the Devil!
WOS
: At 10/3/2012 4:28:52 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
: Without nothing existing, you couldn't have something.
Dan4reason
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7/7/2012 12:27:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 7/5/2012 5:16:07 PM, Gileandos wrote:


I appreciate that finally there is a song about something intellectual for once. Although I disagreed with the video, I did find it enjoyable and funny although the band is not the best.

I will now seriously address its arguments. Here is what they claim atheists are saying:
1: God is a myth.
2: There is no evidence God exists.
3: Man is just another animal.
4: Everything came from nothing.
5: How can a good God allow evil?

Many atheists do argue #1 however some only go so far as to argue #2. Atheists generally argue #2. Atheists do argue something like #3 however while we are animals we are not just any animals, we are very amazing animals. Some atheists argue #4 but there are many who disagree including me. Most atheists argue #5 but I disagree with them.

The band's main arguments is that man created evil and that the complexity in life points to design.

While human did create evil, our genetics have a major influence on our actions, and God supposedly made our genes. Also much evil comes from nature.

The complexity in life points to evolution and there is a lot of evidence for it including the evidence for human evolution.