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7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!
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7/6/2012 7:40:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

What is wrong with you? You are a sick human being. If you believe that hell is eternal and that bad of a place (which I totally agree with you) then how could you just go making jokes like the party has been cancelled due to the fire. No wonder people don't want to become Christians when they see post like this.
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7/6/2012 7:54:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

Why do you assume that all non-Christians lead a wicked lifestyle?
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7/6/2012 8:07:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 7:54:32 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

Why do you assume that all non-Christians lead a wicked lifestyle?


Moreover; why does he assume that Christians don't lead wicked lifestyles?

Matthew 7
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
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7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:24:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Mhm. So where does that sin come from again? Not giving an omnipotent being worship and gifts and such? Or are you gonna use original sin? Original sin is a wicked device.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:30:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:24:24 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Mhm. So where does that sin come from again? Not giving an omnipotent being worship and gifts and such? Or are you gonna use original sin? Original sin is a wicked device.


Our hearts. We desire things of the flesh, and all choose to do things our way. We all think we are right, and all think we are innocent.

2 commandments, if followed, would change the world (evil - gone):

Love God, with all our hearts, minds, and strength

Love our neighbors as ourselves

We do neither; hence-- the world is f*cked up.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
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7/6/2012 8:32:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:30:45 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:24:24 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Mhm. So where does that sin come from again? Not giving an omnipotent being worship and gifts and such? Or are you gonna use original sin? Original sin is a wicked device.


Our hearts. We desire things of the flesh, and all choose to do things our way. We all think we are right, and all think we are innocent.


2 commandments, if followed, would change the world (evil - gone):

Love God, with all our hearts, minds, and strength

Love our neighbors as ourselves

We do neither; hence-- the world is f*cked up.

So, won't it follow that you will go to hell regardless?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
acvavra
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7/6/2012 8:34:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 7:40:54 PM, stubs wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

What is wrong with you? You are a sick human being. If you believe that hell is eternal and that bad of a place (which I totally agree with you) then how could you just go making jokes like the party has been cancelled due to the fire. No wonder people don't want to become Christians when they see post like this.

It was not meant to be a joke. I am being serious. Besides it gets people to not mock about eternal matters such as Hell.
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7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.
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7/6/2012 8:38:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:07:44 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:54:32 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

Why do you assume that all non-Christians lead a wicked lifestyle?


Moreover; why does he assume that Christians don't lead wicked lifestyles?

Matthew 7
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Christians can live wicked lifestyles if they backslide but they arent going to Hell. God will punish His children like a father punishes his own kids, but no good father would kill his kids.
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7/6/2012 8:39:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 7:54:32 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

Why do you assume that all non-Christians lead a wicked lifestyle?

God considers you a "wicked" person if your not saved. Dont get mad at me, I didnt write the Bible. Thats what it says.
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7/6/2012 8:43:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.

Adam "chose" to get sin before he knew what sin was? Cool story bro.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:45:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.

Oh so it's Adams fault. I see. Oh wait, I'm going to suffer eternal torment because thousands of years ago, someone chose to take a bite out of a piece of fruit.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
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7/6/2012 8:46:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:38:13 PM, acvavra wrote:

Christians can live wicked lifestyles if they backslide but they arent going to Hell. God will punish His children like a father punishes his own kids, but no good father would kill his kids.

But a good father would kill other kids.
"Music is a zen-like ecstatic state where you become the new man of the future, the Nietzschean merger of Apollo and Dionysus." Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
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7/6/2012 8:47:22 PM
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NEW FLASH: HELL DOES NOT EXIST AMD NEITHER DOES YOUR FAIRY TALE SKY DADD YOU CALL GOD! (nac)
Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

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7/6/2012 8:48:26 PM
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#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:49:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:45:35 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.

Oh so it's Adams fault. I see. Oh wait, I'm going to suffer eternal torment because thousands of years ago, someone chose to take a bite out of a piece of fruit.

Babies are innocent. They have never sinned. However, as we get older, we rebel against God and choose to sin. This damns us to Hell. And yes, Adam knew it was wrong to eat a piece of fruit God told him not to eat. He just didnt know the consequences. You can debate me on the issue if you want.
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7/6/2012 8:50:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:46:25 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:38:13 PM, acvavra wrote:

Christians can live wicked lifestyles if they backslide but they arent going to Hell. God will punish His children like a father punishes his own kids, but no good father would kill his kids.

But a good father would kill other kids.

No, that is a bad father
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7/6/2012 8:51:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?


God made your soul/spirit.. your body(sinful nature) corrupted it.

God is only responsible for those he saves.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:52:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:49:28 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:45:35 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.

Oh so it's Adams fault. I see. Oh wait, I'm going to suffer eternal torment because thousands of years ago, someone chose to take a bite out of a piece of fruit.

Babies are innocent. They have never sinned.
Then it isn't original sin...
However, as we get older, we rebel against God and choose to sin.
Oh, we "choose" to go to hell?
This damns us to Hell. And yes, Adam knew it was wrong to eat a piece of fruit God told him not to eat. He just didnt know the consequences.
From my understanding, Adam & Eve had NO knowledge of Morality.
You can debate me on the issue if you want.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:52:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:32:22 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:30:45 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:24:24 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Mhm. So where does that sin come from again? Not giving an omnipotent being worship and gifts and such? Or are you gonna use original sin? Original sin is a wicked device.


Our hearts. We desire things of the flesh, and all choose to do things our way. We all think we are right, and all think we are innocent.


2 commandments, if followed, would change the world (evil - gone):

Love God, with all our hearts, minds, and strength

Love our neighbors as ourselves

We do neither; hence-- the world is f*cked up.

So, won't it follow that you will go to hell regardless?


Regardless of what we do? Yes.

Regardless of God's grace? No.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:52:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:51:12 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?


God made your soul/spirit.. your body(sinful nature) corrupted it.

God is only responsible for those he saves.

God MADE sin...
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:52:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:39:38 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:54:32 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 7:33:35 PM, acvavra wrote:
God will judge you for your wicked lifestyle. An eternity in Hell is not worth the party life now. Oh, by the way, the PARTY IN HELL HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE FIRE!

Why do you assume that all non-Christians lead a wicked lifestyle?

God considers you a "wicked" person if your not saved. Dont get mad at me, I didnt write the Bible. Thats what it says.

God can kiss my arse if it's true that belief in your particular brand of faith trumps actually being a good and moral person. That's marketing, not a belief system I would ever want to be a part of.

I'm also not getting mad at you, I just disagree with you.
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7/6/2012 8:53:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:36:26 PM, acvavra wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?

God didnt create man with a sinful nature. Adam chose to get one. Further you have the free will to sin or not sin.


No.. you don't.

You only have the will to sin.

please don't tell me your another: "accept Christ" "choose God" person.. are you?

It's pretty clear we do not have it in us to do that.
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.
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7/6/2012 8:54:15 PM
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You know, I have a totally different take on Heaven and Hell.

The way I see it, sin produces Hell itself. Through people's wickedness, strife and tumult manifests. Through righteousness and cooperation, we can achieve peace, enlightenment, and an ideal state of being -- or Heaven.

After all, we are the engineers of our own fates. We consider externalities like the weather as trivial as fleeting emotions until it becomes extreme. "Life" as we know it is but a figment of our imagination, and we're pretending not to see everything that matters, because once we do, the charade is over and there's no longer anything left to exploit.
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7/6/2012 8:55:07 PM
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You know, in the eyes of Horus you are sinning for driving a car. Oh, you didn't know that before you started? TOO BAD. Look what you made me do. Now all humanity is bound to sin and people can now rot in hell.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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7/6/2012 8:56:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/6/2012 8:52:54 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:51:12 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:31:51 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:21:20 PM, Paradox_7 wrote:
At 7/6/2012 8:16:42 PM, phantom wrote:
What exactly did I do to deserve eternal torture again?


Live every moment of your life in sin.

Seeing as it's an inescapable part of my nature and God made me, wouldn't it follow that it's God fault, and subsequently, the one who is responsible?


God made your soul/spirit.. your body(sinful nature) corrupted it.

God is only responsible for those he saves.

God MADE sin...


So, if I make a meal and it spoils and molds:

i made the mold too?

that's kinda dumb. =\
: At 10/23/2012 8:06:03 PM, tvellalott wrote:
: Don't be. The Catholic Church is ran by Darth Sidius for fvck sake. As far as I'm concerned, you're a bona fide member of the Sith.