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So who has prayed for Lucifer?

Veridas
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8/26/2012 2:10:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Don't misunderstand, I am not asking who has prayed TO Luficer, no, that's Devil Worship apparantely. No, I am asking who here has prayed FOR Luficer?

You know, he's been in hell longer than any other human being, to the point where he's in charge of the place by default, and I imagine experiencing hell is a lot worse if you're used to an existence of peace and bliss like the one in heaven.

So really, the one being in exisence who needs prayer more than anything is Luficer himself. Also, let's be honest, what better way to piss the guy off than to pray for him?

So who here has prayed for Lucifer?
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ScottyDouglas
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8/26/2012 3:04:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 2:10:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Don't misunderstand, I am not asking who has prayed TO Luficer, no, that's Devil Worship apparantely. No, I am asking who here has prayed FOR Luficer?

You know, he's been in hell longer than any other human being, to the point where he's in charge of the place by default, and I imagine experiencing hell is a lot worse if you're used to an existence of peace and bliss like the one in heaven.

So really, the one being in exisence who needs prayer more than anything is Luficer himself. Also, let's be honest, what better way to piss the guy off than to pray for him?

So who here has prayed for Lucifer?

Considering his judgement has been set(yours hasnt)by no other cause of his own, it is pointless. But we can do such things not for pissing beings off just because we should.
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8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

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8/26/2012 4:20:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about Satan or demons being in hell or ruling over it. That's Catholic mythology.
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8/26/2012 4:24:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 4:20:16 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Nowhere in scripture does it say anything about Satan or demons being in hell or ruling over it. That's Catholic mythology.

Very true, They are ruling this earth as we speak.
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8/26/2012 4:25:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Inb4 scotty with incoherent reply about how I'm an idiot.

Thanks you said it yourself.
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Veridas
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8/26/2012 6:32:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

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twocupcakes
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8/26/2012 6:45:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I actually think the devil is a pretty good guy. He gave humans freewill and never caused a genocide. I think the devil probably prays for people. People blame stuff on the devil all the time without evidence, and always praise God. I think the devil is kinda like the Batman in that...

"he's the hero the world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."
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8/26/2012 7:15:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sure, assuming he's a discrete, individual, personal being - presumably he'd be included in the "all things" that are/will be reconciled to Christ.
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8/26/2012 7:15:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 6:32:31 PM, Veridas wrote:

Exposing inherent hypocrisy in christian dogma right here.


What inherent hypocrisy would that be?
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8/26/2012 7:17:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 2:10:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Don't misunderstand, I am not asking who has prayed TO Luficer, no, that's Devil Worship apparantely. No, I am asking who here has prayed FOR Luficer?

You know, he's been in hell longer than any other human being, to the point where he's in charge of the place by default, and I imagine experiencing hell is a lot worse if you're used to an existence of peace and bliss like the one in heaven.

So really, the one being in exisence who needs prayer more than anything is Luficer himself. Also, let's be honest, what better way to piss the guy off than to pray for him?

So who here has prayed for Lucifer?

Cool question, and the point that I think you're getting at seems valid. Honestly, in all these years I've never even given consideration to praying for Lucifer, the thought never crossed my mind.

.5 points to Veridas.
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8/26/2012 7:23:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Yes, he did free man from thoughtslavery and God's atrocities do heavily outweigh Lucifer's. What I think is really admirable about the guy is that God has billions of people convinced that Lucifer is the bad guy, and instead of speaking out against God and maybe delivering a message to mankind from his point of view, he doesn't seem to be trashing God at all.
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8/26/2012 7:40:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 7:23:38 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Yes, he did free man from thoughtslavery and God's atrocities do heavily outweigh Lucifer's. What I think is really admirable about the guy is that God has billions of people convinced that Lucifer is the bad guy, and instead of speaking out against God and maybe delivering a message to mankind from his point of view, he doesn't seem to be trashing God at all.

He can't hurt God by trashing Him himself, it's much more of an insult if he uses God's own creation to do it for him. It's a much more awesome display of his perceived power when he can convince people to do his dirty work for him.
ScottyDouglas
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8/26/2012 7:49:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 6:32:31 PM, Veridas wrote:
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Inb4 scotty with incoherent reply about how I'm an idiot.

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Hey

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Shut up.

Seriously.

Don't you get it?

Exposing inherent hypocrisy in christian dogma right here.

Seriously.

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You got your 2 minutes of attention let the next guy have his.
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8/26/2012 8:42:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 7:49:10 PM, ScottyDouglas wrote:
At 8/26/2012 6:32:31 PM, Veridas wrote:
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Inb4 scotty with incoherent reply about how I'm an idiot.

psst

pssst

hey

Hey, you!

Listen

Hey

Listen

Shut up

You're totally gonna ruin it.

Hey

Hey

Listen

Shut up.

Seriously.

Don't you get it?

Exposing inherent hypocrisy in christian dogma right here.

Seriously.

Ix Nay.

You got your 2 minutes of attention let the next guy have his.

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Lordknukle
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8/26/2012 9:00:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 7:23:38 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 8/26/2012 3:14:06 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
I pity the man. After all, he did free Adam and Eve from their thoughtslave status and gave humanity critical thinking, which is god's eyes is clearly bad because he's a petty and narcissistic jerk. As well, he only killed people who were bad, whereas god pretty much wiped out everybody.

Yes, he did free man from thoughtslavery and God's atrocities do heavily outweigh Lucifer's. What I think is really admirable about the guy is that God has billions of people convinced that Lucifer is the bad guy, and instead of speaking out against God and maybe delivering a message to mankind from his point of view, he doesn't seem to be trashing God at all.

Lucifer- the Jew of the Divine World.
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Veridas
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9/1/2012 3:44:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 7:15:57 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 8/26/2012 6:32:31 PM, Veridas wrote:

Exposing inherent hypocrisy in christian dogma right here.


What inherent hypocrisy would that be?

The idea of goodness and benevolence of being...except to the only creature labelled as evil by God.

I mean, people pray for friends and relatives in hospital all the time, and from my own days in church I recall several occasions where "friends of the church" had recently passed away, and Father John, the Bishop there, lead the congregation in prayer for the deceased's family.

Basically, prayer seems to be a theoretically multi-purpose thing, and you apparantely -can- pray to ease someone's suffering

So the most obvious creature in the universe, at least insofar as Christian dogma is concerned, to pray for would be Lucifer. Yet, the fact that this seems to be a new idea to this forum speaks volumes about it's absence in the theological world.

Benevolence and goodwill, unless we don't like you. Pretty soundly contradicts the whole "turn the other cheek" thang that the J-man preached like a boss pimp.
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9/3/2012 1:36:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 2:10:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Don't misunderstand, I am not asking who has prayed TO Luficer, no, that's Devil Worship apparantely. No, I am asking who here has prayed FOR Luficer?

You know, he's been in hell longer than any other human being, to the point where he's in charge of the place by default, and I imagine experiencing hell is a lot worse if you're used to an existence of peace and bliss like the one in heaven.

So really, the one being in exisence who needs prayer more than anything is Luficer himself. Also, let's be honest, what better way to piss the guy off than to pray for him?

So who here has prayed for Lucifer?

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9/4/2012 1:26:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/26/2012 2:10:51 PM, Veridas wrote:
Don't misunderstand, I am not asking who has prayed TO Luficer, no, that's Devil Worship apparantely. No, I am asking who here has prayed FOR Luficer?

You know, he's been in hell longer than any other human being, to the point where he's in charge of the place by default, and I imagine experiencing hell is a lot worse if you're used to an existence of peace and bliss like the one in heaven.

So really, the one being in exisence who needs prayer more than anything is Luficer himself. Also, let's be honest, what better way to piss the guy off than to pray for him?

So who here has prayed for Lucifer?
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