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Worship & the Pagan catholic Idol Worshippers

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9/21/2012 9:58:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Claim: Story book jesus accepts Worship, and we know that Story book god Alone is to be Worshipped, so does this make Story book jesus = Story book god?

(1) The only Greek word used for "worship" in relation to Story book jesus, is proskuneo. This word contains no inherent religious connotation. It implies reverence (as to a king or ruler) but never worship of a god.


The English word "worship" to a reader or the Bible _might_ lead them to think that that in itself is 'proof' that Jesus is God for only God should be "worshipped". They might consider when coming across "worship" toward Jesus(in any translation that does so)as "adoration paid to God."-The New Universal Dictionary. That is the first definition given. But not the only one. This same dictionary also defines the English word "worship" as "the quality of being worthy; honour, respect, reverence...submissive respect." Hence, even though a translator would choose to always translate PROSKYNEO as "worship" this would be no proof that Jesus is God and hence, consequently, the converse would also be true: That to render PROSKYNEO as "obeisance" when given to Jesus would not be "remov[ing] every reference to Jesus' being worshiped." What this means is that we must not read too much into translations that choose to translate PROSKYNEO as "worship" in reference to Jesus as if that then shows that Jesus, the Son, must be God. The Greek word itself does not show this. . . . .


At Matthew 2:11 the American Standard Version reads:

"And they[the 'magi']came into the house and saw the young child with Mary his mother: and they fell down and worshipped[Gk: PROSKYNEO]him;..."

In a footnote they add:

""The Greek word denotes an act of reverence whether paid to a creature (see ch. 4:19, 18, 26), or to the Creator(see ch. 4:10)."

Also at this place Weymouth's translation reads: "..they prostrated themselves and did Him homage...".

Again, in a footnote, we can read: "[vv]8, 11. Do him homage] Or perhaps 'worship' See John ix. 38.n." (Source:


What does the Catechism of the Catholic Church say veneration means.
In the glossary under veneration it says this.
"Veneration (of saints): Showing ****devotion**** and respect to Mary, the Apostles, and the martyrs, who were viewed as faithful witnesses to faith in Jesus Christ

****Note: DEVOTION

What the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language says WORSHIP means:

1. The reverent love accorded a diety, idol, or sacred object
2. A set of ceremonies or prayers by which this love is expressed.
***(NOVENA'S, PILGRIMAGES and PROCESSIONS that we do for Mary)***

Word Origin & History


early 15c., from M.Fr. veneration , from L. venerationem (nom. veneratio ) "reverence," from venerari "to worship, revere," from venus (gen. veneris ) "beauty, love, desire" (see Venus). (Source:

These Pagan e.g. Mary worshipping catholics also create idols of Mary & others which they also bow before and worship their imagined images through those Pagan idols!


I quote from my Hard Copy of the Catholic Edition RSV 1966 (My bolds) -

#1: " You shall make for yourselves no idols and erect no graven image or pillar, and you shall not set up a figured stone in your land, to bow down to them; for I am the Lord your God. " (Lev. 26:1) CE RSV 1966

7181 - carved image (Hebrew-Greek Key Study Bible NIV Version. 1996)

cf. #2: " You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5you shall not bow down to them ; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God . . . . . . . (Exod. 20:4, 5) CE RSV 1966

That includes your abominable catholic artwork depicting various alleged heavenly and earthly characters like Mary for example!

cf. #3: beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of any male or female, (Deut. 4:16) CE RSV 1966

Again your abominable & sinful statues and depictions (artwork) of your catholic saints and Mary!

cf. #4: " 'Cursed be the man who makes a graven or molton image, an abomination to the Lord, . . . . (Deut. 27:15) CE RSV 1966

Proofs that trinitarian catholics are sinful Pagan idol worshippers as well as Johnny Come Lately NON-Earliest & NON-Original believers!