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10/8/2012 9:41:35 AM
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What are they.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 9:44:28 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:41:35 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
What are they.

they are magazines printed and distributed freely to the public through voluntary donations made by Jehovahs Witnesses. They promote gods kingdom and help people to find answers to some of their questions.

visit www.jw.org to learn more.
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10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:41:35 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
What are they.

Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.
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10/8/2012 9:46:47 AM
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Next question: How do I reconcile these?

At 10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.

At 10/8/2012 9:44:28 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
they are magazines printed and distributed freely to the public through voluntary donations made by Jehovahs Witnesses. They promote gods kingdom and help people to find answers to some of their questions.

visit www.jw.org to learn more.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 9:47:51 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:41:35 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
What are they.

Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.

We are not a 'cult' we are like every other religion but dont believe certain things and believe others.
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10/8/2012 9:50:10 AM
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Question: How could the world have ended in 1914? As far as I can perceive, it exists today.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 9:50:11 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:46:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
Next question: How do I reconcile these?

At 10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.

At 10/8/2012 9:44:28 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
they are magazines printed and distributed freely to the public through voluntary donations made by Jehovahs Witnesses. They promote gods kingdom and help people to find answers to some of their questions.

visit www.jw.org to learn more.

what do you mean?
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10/8/2012 9:50:44 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:50:11 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
what do you mean?

Which one of you is right?
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 9:52:31 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:50:10 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
Question: How could the world have ended in 1914? As far as I can perceive, it exists today.

we didnt say the wirld ended in 1914 we predicted thats when Christ threw satan and his demons out of heaven to cleanse the heavens. thatt is when Christ inherited the throne.
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10/8/2012 9:52:51 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:46:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
Next question: How do I reconcile these?

At 10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.

At 10/8/2012 9:44:28 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
they are magazines printed and distributed freely to the public through voluntary donations made by Jehovahs Witnesses. They promote gods kingdom and help people to find answers to some of their questions.

visit www.jw.org to learn more.

Next question: How do I reconcile these?

Reconcile what? They have a sorry history of forecasting the world's end, among other things. Get yourself a copy of "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" from 1925. Get the original, if you can find it.
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10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 9:50:44 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:50:11 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
what do you mean?

Which one of you is right?

it just depends on who you will believe
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10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.
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10/8/2012 9:58:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 9:47:51 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:45:02 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:41:35 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
What are they.

Cultist propaganda that teach that the world ended in 1914, among other things. They specialize in taking OT prophesies - long-since fulfilled - and trying to tell ppl that they haven't occurred yet.

We are not a 'cult' we are like every other religion but dont believe certain things and believe others.

Same could be said for the Moonies, Hare Krishna's, and Jim Jones' cyanide-drinkers over in Guyana - they "dont believe certain things and believe others." I'll show you, alwaysmorethan:

1. Was Jesus Christ the literal Son of God?
2. Do people have an eternal Spirit?
3. Is/was Jesus actually Michael the Archangel?
4. Will Jesus eventually literally sit over there in Palestine, in Jerusalem, literally ruling on David's literal throne?
5. Are the wicked punished eternally in Hell?
6. Are the dead conscious in Spirit or are they like old Rover, dead all over?

Watch those answers, alwaysmorethanyou. You'll see some stuff I bet you never heard of.
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10/8/2012 10:02:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 9:58:59 AM, annanicole wrote:
Same could be said for the Moonies, Hare Krishna's, and Jim Jones' cyanide-drinkers over in Guyana - they "dont believe certain things and believe others." I'll show you, alwaysmorethanyou:

Your credibility with me has taken a nosedive. You left off the most important part of my name, nanicole.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 10:05:24 AM
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At 10/8/2012 10:02:44 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:58:59 AM, annanicole wrote:
Same could be said for the Moonies, Hare Krishna's, and Jim Jones' cyanide-drinkers over in Guyana - they "dont believe certain things and believe others." I'll show you, alwaysmorethanyou:

Your credibility with me has taken a nosedive. You left off the most important part of my name, nanicole.

Was lighting a cigarette and too busy to type it all. LOL
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10/8/2012 10:09:47 AM
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At 10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, v 4, p. 621). Christ returned 140 years ago, but nobody's seen Him?

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). That's why I said, "Order the original booklet."

Sure they have made many, many false predictions.
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10/8/2012 11:09:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 10:09:47 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, v 4, p. 621). Christ returned 140 years ago, but nobody's seen Him?

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). That's why I said, "Order the original booklet."

Sure they have made many, many false predictions.

what you are reffering to is the spritual war against the angles and the deamons in heaven. also the predictions you keep refering to is refering to the spirit creatures in heaves.
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10/8/2012 11:18:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 11:09:26 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:09:47 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, v 4, p. 621). Christ returned 140 years ago, but nobody's seen Him?

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). That's why I said, "Order the original booklet."

Sure they have made many, many false predictions.

what you are reffering to is the spritual war against the angles and the deamons in heaven. also the predictions you keep refering to is refering to the spirit creatures in heaves.

What's the deal with the earth's present rulership, then?
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 11:21:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 11:18:46 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:09:26 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:09:47 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, v 4, p. 621). Christ returned 140 years ago, but nobody's seen Him?

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). That's why I said, "Order the original booklet."

Sure they have made many, many false predictions.

what you are reffering to is the spritual war against the angles and the deamons in heaven. also the predictions you keep refering to is refering to the spirit creatures in heaves.

What's the deal with the earth's present rulership, then?

if i understand what your asking the in the bible when Jesus was born the astrologers asked where the king was. Jesus was appointed as a spiritual king to rule in heaven and not on earth because when he was on earth he was ' not to be ministered to but to minister'. i hope i have answered your question.
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10/8/2012 11:24:25 AM
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At 10/8/2012 11:21:22 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
if i understand what your asking the in the bible when Jesus was born the astrologers asked where the king was. Jesus was appointed as a spiritual king to rule in heaven and not on earth because when he was on earth he was ' not to be ministered to but to minister'. i hope i have answered your question.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

I was wondering what happened to earth's present rulership if it was to be overthrown. What replaced it?
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 11:28:43 AM
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At 10/8/2012 11:24:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:21:22 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
if i understand what your asking the in the bible when Jesus was born the astrologers asked where the king was. Jesus was appointed as a spiritual king to rule in heaven and not on earth because when he was on earth he was ' not to be ministered to but to minister'. i hope i have answered your question.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

I was wondering what happened to earth's present rulership if it was to be overthrown. What replaced it?

earth 'is llying on the power of the wicked one' (Satan) God wanted to catch satan in a lie when he basically said 'i can turn anyone against god' so god being the wisest said that he would give the world to satan for him to prove his point. so in A.D 1914 satan was thrown into the earth to cleanse the heavens. before 1914 jehovah was ruling in heaven but when jesus threw satan out he inherited the throne.
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10/8/2012 11:35:20 AM
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At 10/8/2012 11:28:43 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
earth 'is llying on the power of the wicked one' (Satan) God wanted to catch satan in a lie when he basically said 'i can turn anyone against god' so god being the wisest said that he would give the world to satan for him to prove his point. so in A.D 1914 satan was thrown into the earth to cleanse the heavens. before 1914 jehovah was ruling in heaven but when jesus threw satan out he inherited the throne.

I'm afraid I don't understand. Satan is now in charge of the earth?

Also, why did Jehovah abdicate?
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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10/8/2012 11:45:33 AM
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AMTY.....Jehovah's Witnesses are a splinter group of Christianity that is best known for being annoying people in suits that try to convert people door-to-door, predicting the worlds end and being wrong about it several times, say that only 175,000 people or so can get to heaven, and for claiming to be Christian while generally rejecting all the doctrines that make on a Christian.
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10/8/2012 11:47:22 AM
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Why do Jehovah"s Witnesses say that God"s Kingdom was established in 1914?

Two lines of evidence point to that year: (1) Bible chronology and (2) the events since 1914 in fulfillment of prophecy. Here we will consider the chronology. For fulfillment of prophecy, see the main heading "Last Days."

Read Daniel 4:1-17. Da 4 Verses 20-37 show that this prophecy had a fulfillment upon Nebuchadnezzar. But it also has a larger fulfillment. How do we know that? Da 4 Verses 3 and 17 show that the dream that God gave to King Nebuchadnezzar deals with the Kingdom of God and God"s promise to give it "to the one whom he wants to . . . even the lowliest one of mankind." The entire Bible shows that Jehovah"s purpose is for his own Son, Jesus Christ, to rule as His representative over mankind. (Ps. 2:1-8; Dan. 7:13, 14; 1 Cor. 15:23-25; Rev. 11:15; 12:10) The Bible"s description of Jesus shows that he was indeed "the lowliest one of mankind." (Phil. 2:7, 8; Matt. 11:28-30) The prophetic dream, then, points to the time when Jehovah would give rulership over mankind to his own Son.
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What was to happen in the meantime? Rulership over mankind, as represented by the tree and its rootstock, would have "the heart of a beast." (Dan. 4:16) The history of mankind would be dominated by governments that displayed the characteristics of wild beasts. In modern times, the bear is commonly used to represent Russia; the eagle, the United States; the lion, Britain; the dragon, China. The Bible also uses wild beasts as symbols of world governments and of the entire global system of human rulership under the influence of Satan. (Dan. 7:2-8, 17, 23; 8:20-22; Rev. 13:1, 2) As Jesus showed in his prophecy pointing to the conclusion of the system of things, Jerusalem would be "trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations" were fulfilled. (Luke 21:24) "Jerusalem" represented the Kingdom of God because its kings were said to sit on "the throne of the kingship of Jehovah." (1 Chron. 28:4, 5; Matt. 5:34, 35) So, the Gentile governments, represented by wild beasts, would "trample" on the right of God"s Kingdom to direct human affairs and would themselves hold sway under Satan"s control."Compare Luke 4:5, 6.

For how long would such governments be permitted to exercise this control before Jehovah gave the Kingdom to Jesus Christ? Daniel 4:16 says "seven times" ("seven years," AT and Mo, also JB footnote on Da 4 verse 13). The Bible shows that in calculating prophetic time, a day is counted as a year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34) How many "days," then, are involved? Revelation 11:2, 3 clearly states that 42 months (3 1/2 years) in that prophecy are counted as 1,260 days. Seven years would be twice that, or 2,520 days. Applying the "day for a year" rule would result in 2,520 years.

When did the counting of the "seven times" begin? After Zedekiah, the last king in the typical Kingdom of God, was removed from the throne in Jerusalem by the Babylonians. (Ezek. 21:25-27) Finally, by early October of 607 B.C.E. the last vestige of Jewish sovereignty was gone. By that time the Jewish governor, Gedaliah, who had been left in charge by the Babylonians, had been assassinated, and the remaining Jews had fled to Egypt. (Jeremiah, chapters 40-43) Reliable Bible chronology indicates that this took place 70 years before 537 B.C.E., the year in which the Jews returned from captivity; that is, it took place by early October of 607 B.C.E. (Jer. 29:10; Dan. 9:2; for further details, see the book "Let Your Kingdom Come," pages 186-189.)

How, then, is the time calculated down to 1914? Counting 2,520 years from early October of 607 B.C.E. brings us to early October of 1914 C.E., as shown on the chart.

CALCULATING THE "SEVEN TIMES"

"Seven times" = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years

A Biblical "time," or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14)

In the fulfillment of the "seven times" each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34)

Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E.= 1/4 year

January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years

January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years

January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year

Total: 2,520 years

What happened at that time? Jehovah entrusted rulership over mankind to his own Son, Jesus Christ, glorified in the heavens."Dan. 7:13, 14.

Then why is there still so much wickedness on earth? After Christ was enthroned, Satan and his demons were hurled out of heaven and down to the earth. (Rev. 12:12) Christ as King did not immediately proceed to destroy all who refused to acknowledge Jehovah"s sovereignty and himself as the Messiah. Instead, as he had foretold, a global preaching work was to be done. (Matt. 24:14) As King he would direct a dividing of peoples of all nations, those proving to be righteous being granted the prospect of everlasting life, and the wicked being consigned to everlasting cutting-off in death. (Matt. 25:31-46) In the meantime, the very difficult conditions foretold for "the last days" would prevail. As shown under the heading "Last Days," those events have been clearly in evidence since 1914. Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the "great tribulation" in which the present wicked world will end."Matt. 24:21, 22, 34.

When will the end of this wicked world come?

Jesus answered: "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." However, he also stated: "Truly I say to you that this generation [that was alive when "the sign" of "the last days" began its fulfillment] will by no means pass away until all these things occur.""Matt. 24:36, 34.

Also, after telling of events that would follow the establishment of the Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ in 1914, Revelation 12:12 adds: "Be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time."
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10/8/2012 11:59:28 AM
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At 10/8/2012 11:28:43 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:24:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:21:22 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
if i understand what your asking the in the bible when Jesus was born the astrologers asked where the king was. Jesus was appointed as a spiritual king to rule in heaven and not on earth because when he was on earth he was ' not to be ministered to but to minister'. i hope i have answered your question.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

I was wondering what happened to earth's present rulership if it was to be overthrown. What replaced it?

earth 'is llying on the power of the wicked one' (Satan) God wanted to catch satan in a lie when he basically said 'i can turn anyone against god' so god being the wisest said that he would give the world to satan for him to prove his point. so in A.D 1914 satan was thrown into the earth to cleanse the heavens. before 1914 jehovah was ruling in heaven but when jesus threw satan out he inherited the throne.

Ain't that a fanciful assertion? Totally fabricated as a rather pathetic attempt to save face because the world in fact did not end in 1914. Nor did the other predictions concerning 1914 come true.
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10/8/2012 12:01:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 11:21:22 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:18:46 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 11:09:26 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 10:09:47 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:58:25 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:57:25 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 10/8/2012 9:53:04 AM, tylersch96 wrote:
it just depends on who you will believe

So, do you have a "sorry history" of predicting the end of the world?
we have never predicted the end of the world. no one knows when the end will come except Jehovah.

"...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908, p. 101). Did it happen?

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, v 4, p. 621). Christ returned 140 years ago, but nobody's seen Him?

"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). That's why I said, "Order the original booklet."

Sure they have made many, many false predictions.

what you are reffering to is the spritual war against the angles and the deamons in heaven. also the predictions you keep refering to is refering to the spirit creatures in heaves.

What's the deal with the earth's present rulership, then?

if i understand what your asking the in the bible when Jesus was born the astrologers asked where the king was. Jesus was appointed as a spiritual king to rule in heaven and not on earth because when he was on earth he was ' not to be ministered to but to minister'. i hope i have answered your question.

Answered it? You didn't even begin to make a shadow of a hint of a show on answering. I think JW's would much prefer to just forget about the failed predictions of their leaders, Russell and Rutherford.
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10/9/2012 8:43:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 11:45:33 AM, OberHerr wrote:
AMTY.....Jehovah's Witnesses are a splinter group of Christianity that is best known for being annoying people in suits that try to convert people door-to-door, predicting the worlds end and being wrong about it several times, say that only 175,000 people or so can get to heaven, and for claiming to be Christian while generally rejecting all the doctrines that make on a Christian.

177000 people
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