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WCF CHAPTER II"Of God, and of the Holy Trinit

joneszj
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10/11/2012 5:47:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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1. There is but one only, (Deut. 6:4, 1 Cor. 8:4"6) living, and true God, (1 Thess. 1:9, Jer. 10:10) who is infinite in being and perfection, (Job 11:7"9, Job 26:14) a most pure spirit, (John 4:24) invisible, (1 Tim. 1:17) without body, parts, (Deut. 4:15"16, John 4:24, Luke 24:39) or passions; (Acts 14:11,15) immutable, (James 1:17, Mal. 3:6) immense, (1 Kings 8:27, Jer. 23:23"24) eternal, (Ps. 90:2, 1 Tim. 1:17) incomprehensible, (Ps. 145:3) almighty, (Gen. 17:1, Rev. 4:8) most wise, (Rom. 16:27) most holy, (Isa. 6:3, Rev. 4:8) most free, (Ps. 115:3) most absolute; (Exod. 3:14) working all things according to the counsel of His own immutable and most righteous will, (Eph. 1:11) for His own glory; (Prov. 16:4, Rom. 11:36) most loving, (1 John 4:8,16) gracious, merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin; (Exod. 34:6"7) the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him; (Heb. 11:6) and withal, most just, and terrible in His judgments, (Neh. 9:32"33) hating all sin, (Ps. 5:5"6) and who will by no means clear the guilty. (Nah. 1:2"3, Exod. 34:7)
2. God hath all life, (John 5:26) glory, (Acts 7:2) goodness, (Ps. 119:68) blessedness, (1 Tim. 6:15, Rom. 9:5) in and of Himself; and is alone in and unto Himself all-sufficient, not standing in need of any creatures which He hath made, (Acts 17:24"25) nor deriving any glory from them, (Job 22:2"3) but only manifesting His own glory in, by, unto, and upon them. He is the alone fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things (Rom. 11:36) and hath most sovereign dominion over them, to do by them, for them, or upon them whatsoever Himself pleaseth. (Rev. 4:11, 1 Tim. 6:15, Dan. 4:25, 35) In His sight all things are open and manifest, (Heb. 4:13) His knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature, (Rom. 11:33"34, Ps. 147:5) so as nothing is to Him contingent, or uncertain. (Acts 15:18, Ezek. 11:5) He is most holy in all His counsels, in all His works, and in all His commands. (Ps. 145:17, Rom. 7:12) To Him is due from angels and men, and every other creature, whatsoever worship, service, or obedience He is pleased to require of them. (Rev. 5:12"14)
3. In the unity of the Godhead there be three persons, of one substance, power, and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost: (1 John 5:7. Matt 3:16"17, Matt. 28:19, 2 Cor. 13:14) the Father is of none, neither begotten, not proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; (John 1:14, 18) the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son. (John 15:26, Gal. 4:6)

The Westminster confession of faith. 1996. Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
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10/11/2012 5:58:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Gnostics, Jehovahs (false) Witnesses, Mormons, oh my!!!

1 there is one God. He is infinity, perfect, pure spirit, invisible, w/o body or parts, without passion (ooh), immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, most wise holy free and absolute. God works all things to His glory according to His counsel. Most loving, gracious, long-suffering, abundant in truth & goodness, forgiving iniquity, transgression and sin. Rewarder of those who seek Him. Most just and terrible in His judgements, hates sin, and punishes all guilty.

2 All life, goodness, blessing, and glory are found in Him. He is self sufficient. He manifests His own glory in, by, unto, and upon creatures. He is the fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things. He is sovereign over everything and does what He pleases. He is omniscient. To Him all worship, service and obedience is required.

3 In the unity of the Godhead there be three persons, of one substance, power, and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. The Father is of none, neither begotten, not proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; (John 1:14, 18) the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son. (John 15:26, Gal. 4:6)

I basically copy & pasted this lolz.
AlwaysMoreThanYou
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10/11/2012 6:07:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I see nothing blatantly heretical here.

I wouldn't give it an imprimatur or anything, but it appears to be fine.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
joneszj
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10/11/2012 6:15:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/11/2012 6:07:16 PM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
I see nothing blatantly heretical here.

I wouldn't give it an imprimatur or anything, but it appears to be fine.

Yeah, besides theology that rejects Trinitarianism, and open theists I would think the only thing in dispute would be how God ordains everything according to the counsel of His will and perhaps the definitions of some terms.
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10/11/2012 6:27:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/11/2012 6:07:16 PM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
I see nothing blatantly heretical here.

I wouldn't give it an imprimatur or anything, but it appears to be fine.

Just wait until we get to chapter 11 on justification :)
Dogknox
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10/12/2012 3:11:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The TRINITY is God!!!

The Great Commission
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

The THEREFORE at the start of verse #19 tells us "The AUTHORITY Jesus has he gives to his CHURCH!

joneszj & Double_Helix46
All THEREFORE'S found in the scriptures.. PUT INTO CONTEXT all that came before the THEREFORE after the THEREFORE!
Whenever you find a "THEREFORE" in the scriptures you MUST STOP and ask: "That is the "Therefore" there for???!"
The "THEREFORE" in the Great Commission tells us IN CONTEXT Jesus has all the AUTHORITY of God AND Jesus gives all the AUTHORITY of God to his CHURCH!

THEREFORE GO.... With the authority of God!
Make disciples in the name of the FATHER, with all of the Father's authority, in the Father's NAME baptize all nations to make disciples!

THEREFORE GO.... With the authority of God!
Make disciples in the name of the Son, with all of the Son's authority, in the Son's NAME baptize all nations to make disciples!

THEREFORE GO.... With the authority of God!
Make disciples in the name of the Holy Spirit, with all of the Holy Spirit's authority, in the Holy Spirit's NAME baptize all nations to make disciples!

joneszj
All people who speak for other people, have the authority of the people they represent!
Ambassadors represent us!!
Ambassadors speak for us!!
Ambassadors represent our country, with all the country AUTHORITY they speak for us!!!

Peter holds Jesus' keys!
Peter raised the dead, As Jesus raised the dead. Peter' shadow heals all it falls on as Jesus heals all men! Peter is the Shepherd of Jesus' flock, until Jesus returns!

Look..
Peter judges others in Jesus' place...
Acts 5:3
Peter said to Ananias, "Why did you let Satan fill your heart? He made you lie to the Holy Spirit. You kept back part of the money you got from your land. 4 Was not the land yours before you sold it? After it was sold, you could have done what you wanted to do with the money. Why did you allow your heart to do this? You have lied to God, not to men."

Clearly (above) Peter represented the Holy Spirit/God in judgement between Ananias and Sapphira!

joneszj & Double_Helix46 Peter speaks for Jesus, Peter represents Jesus on earth!
Acts 10 Then Peter said,
47 "Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have."
48 So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.


joneszj & Double_Helix46 Clearly.. If Jesus did not want them "Baptized with WATER" Peter would not have ordered them baptized with water!!
Jesus wanted them "Baptized with WATER" so Peter speaking for Jesus>>"In Jesus' Name" representing Jesus, with all of Jesus' AUTHORITY Peter says.. "Get err done" I ORDER YOU in Jesus' Name "Baptizes them with water"!
48 So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

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10/13/2012 5:31:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/12/2012 3:11:25 PM, Dogknox wrote:
The TRINITY is God!!!

Me Composer the ongoing successful Cult buster: - catholics admit -

The Trinity "is not directly and immediately the Word of God" (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 304).

It is admitted therefore to be a Johnny Come Lately corruption of the Earliest & Original beliefs!

"The propositions constitutive of the dogma of the Trinity were not drawn from the New Testament and could not be expressed in New Testament terms. They were the products of reason speculating on a revelation to faith. . . they were only formed through centuries of effort, only elaborated by the aid of the conceptions and formulated in the terms of Greek and Roman metaphysics." (Source: Encyclopedia Britannica)

"At first the Christian faith was not Trinitarian"It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the New Testament
and other early Christian writings" (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, ed. James Hastings, 1922, Vol. 12, p. 461).
Dogknox
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10/13/2012 11:10:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Composer Clearly your source; James Hastings had it wrong!!!!

Jesus is GOD "the word" ... "The Word became flesh".. John 1!
Clearly Jesus is GOD!

Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

2 Corinthians 13:14
May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

AND..

Hebrews 9:14
How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

The Didache
"After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. . . . If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Didache 7:1 [A.D. 70]).

Do you see it?? 70 A.D.!!!

Ignatius of Antioch
"[T]o the Church at Ephesus in Asia . . . chosen through true suffering by the will of the Father in Jesus Christ our God" (Letter to the Ephesians 1 [A.D. 110]).
AND
"For our God, Jesus Christ, was conceived by Mary in accord with God"s plan: of the seed of David, it is true, but also of the Holy Spirit" (ibid., 18:2).

DO YOU SEE IT.. 110 A.D.!
the Father in Jesus Christ our God

Theophilus of Antioch is Catholic
He tells you...
"It is the attribute of God, of the most high and almighty and of the living God, not only to be everywhere, but also to see and hear all; for he can in no way be contained in a place. . . . The three days before the luminaries were created are types of the Trinity: God, his Word, and his Wisdom" (To Autolycus 2:15 [A.D. 181]).

The words "are types of the Trinity:" (above) imply's the idea was accepted before Theophilus of Antioch put it in writing in 181 A.D.!!
He writes as if his audience already accepted the idea of "TRINITY!"

Trinity was accepted as FACT...as far back as the first day the Gospel of Matthew was completed!
The word TRINITY was not used yet but "1 God in 3 persons was"!

Dogknox