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GreatestIam
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11/9/2012 8:13:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Atheist Church of the evolving Human God.

Atheist friends, should you elect a God and sacrifice to him or her?

By doing so, you would be acknowledging that mankind is the greatest force in the universe by symbolically taking the name of Human God and insuring that there is always a church that preaches the truth of what is known as a certainty of the supernatural God. That he probably does not exist and is a man-made mythical ideal perpetuated by the Noble Lie.

Please view the first clip.

If you believe what the research indicates in terms of hive behavior, then you might wonder as I do if it would not be in the best interest of the atheist movement to elect an atheist God and sacrifice to him or her?

This, if the research is true, would insure the longevity and cohesion of the atheist movement and give it power.

You may have some suggestion for the title that you would put on your leader and church. I do not except for my choice in the title above. Not being a full atheist, I would not have a vote on it; even as I support atheists and non-supernatural spirituality in people over supernatural religious notions and beliefs. I would also suggest a mantra for this church; that being, --- Faith without Facts is for Fools.

I believe in a strongly assertive type of atheism that preaches that truth is the highest principle. This preaching should be done with eloquence and good form and language; recognizing the trap of logical fallacies and the impossibility of atheists proving that there is no creator God; as well as the impossibility of believers to prove that there is a creator God.

Unfortunately I cannot call myself an atheist anymore because of having suffered an apotheosis. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, you will know that I think that creating an atheist church should be the next evolutionary step for the atheist movement. I believe the research shown above to be true and fear that without a church, atheism will not be affective and perhaps die out without it.

Creating an atheist church would be the ideal for both religionists and atheists. It would insure that atheists are always here to correct the imaginary thinking of those who believe in a mythical supernatural God. This would be a benevolent and altruistic expression of atheist"s social conscience and desire to bring all people to sane thinking. This atheist church would recognize the human attribute shown in the following clip and gently try to help those adults whose thinking is hampered by it.

Please view the second clip.

Atheists seem to already want to do more for society towards this end as they seem to be over-represented in religious forums even as statistics say that the atheist in the U. S. and Canada are only at about 5% of the population. This is a sacrifice for atheists that already adds some cohesion and longevity to the organization and appeases the hive nature that we seem to have. But I do not think it is enough based on the research shown above.

Should atheist elect themselves a Pope or God or someone with some other title and do whatever sacrifice is demanded of them to keep the movement alive for the long run?

Regards
DL
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11/9/2012 8:21:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 8:13:03 AM, GreatestIam wrote:
Atheist Church of the evolving Human God.

Atheist friends, should you elect a God and sacrifice to him or her?

No.


By doing so, you would be acknowledging that mankind is the greatest force in the universe

I do not recognize mankind as one of the four fundamental forces in the universe, let alone the "greatest" one.

by symbolically taking the name of Human God and insuring that there is always a church that preaches the truth of what is known as a certainty of the supernatural God. That he probably does not exist and is a man-made mythical ideal perpetuated by the Noble Lie.

Please view the first clip.


If you believe what the research indicates in terms of hive behavior, then you might wonder as I do if it would not be in the best interest of the atheist movement to elect an atheist God and sacrifice to him or her?

Sorry, but I consider one of the benefits of being an atheist is that I'm not subject to such hive behavior when it comes to religion.


This, if the research is true, would insure the longevity and cohesion of the atheist movement and give it power.

Maybe, but who says the path of least resistance is the best? For example, we could use such tactics to convince people to accept scientific theories, but such things can be undone. More lasting is the test of time.


You may have some suggestion for the title that you would put on your leader and church. I do not except for my choice in the title above. Not being a full atheist, I would not have a vote on it;

"full" atheist? What nonsense is this? Either you believe in a god or you don't.

even as I support atheists and non-supernatural spirituality in people over supernatural religious notions and beliefs. I would also suggest a mantra for this church; that being, --- Faith without Facts is for Fools.

I believe in a strongly assertive type of atheism that preaches that truth is the highest principle. This preaching should be done with eloquence and good form and language; recognizing the trap of logical fallacies and the impossibility of atheists proving that there is no creator God; as well as the impossibility of believers to prove that there is a creator God.

Unfortunately I cannot call myself an atheist anymore because of having suffered an apotheosis. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, you will know that I think that creating an atheist church should be the next evolutionary step for the atheist movement. I believe the research shown above to be true and fear that without a church, atheism will not be affective and perhaps die out without it.

Creating an atheist church would be the ideal for both religionists and atheists. It would insure that atheists are always here to correct the imaginary thinking of those who believe in a mythical supernatural God. This would be a benevolent and altruistic expression of atheist"s social conscience and desire to bring all people to sane thinking. This atheist church would recognize the human attribute shown in the following clip and gently try to help those adults whose thinking is hampered by it.

Please view the second clip.


Atheists seem to already want to do more for society towards this end as they seem to be over-represented in religious forums even as statistics say that the atheist in the U. S. and Canada are only at about 5% of the population. This is a sacrifice for atheists that already adds some cohesion and longevity to the organization and appeases the hive nature that we seem to have. But I do not think it is enough based on the research shown above.

Should atheist elect themselves a Pope or God or someone with some other title and do whatever sacrifice is demanded of them to keep the movement alive for the long run?

Regards
DL

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11/9/2012 9:06:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 8:21:59 AM, drafterman wrote:
"full" atheist? What nonsense is this? Either you believe in a god or you don't.

You should tell that to those atheists who say that if you only believe in one God, you're 99% atheist.
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11/9/2012 9:45:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 9:06:33 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 11/9/2012 8:21:59 AM, drafterman wrote:
"full" atheist? What nonsense is this? Either you believe in a god or you don't.

You should tell that to those atheists who say that if you only believe in one God, you're 99% atheist.

In such a context they aren't speaking literally.
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11/9/2012 9:51:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 8:13:03 AM, GreatestIam wrote:
Atheist Church of the evolving Human God.

This makes no sense.


Atheist friends, should you elect a God and sacrifice to him or her?

Simply put. No.


By doing so, you would be acknowledging that mankind is the greatest force in the universe by symbolically taking the name of Human God and insuring that there is always a church that preaches the truth of what is known as a certainty of the supernatural God. That he probably does not exist and is a man-made mythical ideal perpetuated by the Noble Lie.

Again, this makes no sense.


Please view the first clip.


If you believe what the research indicates in terms of hive behavior, then you might wonder as I do if it would not be in the best interest of the atheist movement to elect an atheist God and sacrifice to him or her?

Can you please stop talking about atheist god's. It is a self contradictory term. Also, hive behaviour is a horrible way to live. For examples of this please read the book "the wave" "a fictionalized account of the "Third Wave" teaching experiment by Ron Jones that took place in a Gordon High School history class in Palo Alto, California"- http://en.wikipedia.org...(novel)


This, if the research is true, would insure the longevity and cohesion of the atheist movement and give it power.

Ok..... sometimes its better to let something die out then to enforce it with unethical means, even if you think it is the right thing.


You may have some suggestion for the title that you would put on your leader and church. I do not except for my choice in the title above. Not being a full atheist,

What is a "full atheist"?

I would not have a vote on it; even as I support atheists and non-supernatural spirituality in people over supernatural religious notions and beliefs. I would also suggest a mantra for this church; that being, --- Faith without Facts is for Fools.

We must have different definitions of faith......


I believe in a strongly assertive type of atheism that preaches that truth is the highest principle. This preaching should be done with eloquence and good form and language; recognizing the trap of logical fallacies and the impossibility of atheists proving that there is no creator God; as well as the impossibility of believers to prove that there is a creator God.

What information do you have, that I don't, that gives you the idea that proving/disproving a creator is impossible?


Unfortunately I cannot call myself an atheist anymore because of having suffered an apotheosis. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, you will know that I think that creating an atheist church should be the next evolutionary step for the atheist movement. I believe the research shown above to be true and fear that without a church, atheism will not be affective and perhaps die out without it.

You do realise that church is a term used to refer to buildings used for the christian religion, or to refer to a certain body of the christian religion.


Creating an atheist church would be the ideal for both religionists and atheists. It would insure that atheists are always here to correct the imaginary thinking of those who believe in a mythical supernatural God. This would be a benevolent and altruistic expression of atheist"s social conscience and desire to bring all people to sane thinking. This atheist church would recognize the human attribute shown in the following clip and gently try to help those adults whose thinking is hampered by it.

Please view the second clip.


Atheists seem to already want to do more for society towards this end as they seem to be over-represented in religious forums even as statistics say that the atheist in the U. S. and Canada are only at about 5% of the population. This is a sacrifice for atheists that already adds some cohesion and longevity to the organization and appeases the hive nature that we seem to have. But I do not think it is enough based on the research shown above.

Should atheist elect themselves a Pope or God or someone with some other title and do whatever sacrifice is demanded of them to keep the movement alive for the long run?

Why does there have to be a sacrifice?


Regards
DL
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11/9/2012 6:51:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 8:21:59 AM, drafterman wrote:


Maybe, but who says the path of least resistance is the best? For example, we could use such tactics to convince people to accept scientific theories, but such things can be undone. More lasting is the test of time.



The thing is though that if your type of guy and your group die out in the time frame shown, you leave your children and grandchildren at the merci of a stonger right wing. You want them to be able to do as they please with them?

Do you have girls ------

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or boys?

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DL
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11/9/2012 7:01:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 9:51:23 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 11/9/2012 8:13:03 AM, GreatestIam wrote:
Atheist Church of the evolving Human God.

This makes no sense.


Atheist friends, should you elect a God and sacrifice to him or her?

Simply put. No.


By doing so, you would be acknowledging that mankind is the greatest force in the universe by symbolically taking the name of Human God and insuring that there is always a church that preaches the truth of what is known as a certainty of the supernatural God. That he probably does not exist and is a man-made mythical ideal perpetuated by the Noble Lie.

Again, this makes no sense.


Please view the first clip.


If you believe what the research indicates in terms of hive behavior, then you might wonder as I do if it would not be in the best interest of the atheist movement to elect an atheist God and sacrifice to him or her?

Can you please stop talking about atheist god's. It is a self contradictory term. Also, hive behaviour is a horrible way to live. For examples of this please read the book "the wave" "a fictionalized account of the "Third Wave" teaching experiment by Ron Jones that took place in a Gordon High School history class in Palo Alto, California"- http://en.wikipedia.org...(novel)


This, if the research is true, would insure the longevity and cohesion of the atheist movement and give it power.

Ok..... sometimes its better to let something die out then to enforce it with unethical means, even if you think it is the right thing.


You may have some suggestion for the title that you would put on your leader and church. I do not except for my choice in the title above. Not being a full atheist,

What is a "full atheist"?

I would not have a vote on it; even as I support atheists and non-supernatural spirituality in people over supernatural religious notions and beliefs. I would also suggest a mantra for this church; that being, --- Faith without Facts is for Fools.

We must have different definitions of faith......


I believe in a strongly assertive type of atheism that preaches that truth is the highest principle. This preaching should be done with eloquence and good form and language; recognizing the trap of logical fallacies and the impossibility of atheists proving that there is no creator God; as well as the impossibility of believers to prove that there is a creator God.

What information do you have, that I don't, that gives you the idea that proving/disproving a creator is impossible?


Unfortunately I cannot call myself an atheist anymore because of having suffered an apotheosis. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, you will know that I think that creating an atheist church should be the next evolutionary step for the atheist movement. I believe the research shown above to be true and fear that without a church, atheism will not be affective and perhaps die out without it.

You do realise that church is a term used to refer to buildings used for the christian religion, or to refer to a certain body of the christian religion.


Creating an atheist church would be the ideal for both religionists and atheists. It would insure that atheists are always here to correct the imaginary thinking of those who believe in a mythical supernatural God. This would be a benevolent and altruistic expression of atheist"s social conscience and desire to bring all people to sane thinking. This atheist church would recognize the human attribute shown in the following clip and gently try to help those adults whose thinking is hampered by it.

Please view the second clip.


Atheists seem to already want to do more for society towards this end as they seem to be over-represented in religious forums even as statistics say that the atheist in the U. S. and Canada are only at about 5% of the population. This is a sacrifice for atheists that already adds some cohesion and longevity to the organization and appeases the hive nature that we seem to have. But I do not think it is enough based on the research shown above.

Should atheist elect themselves a Pope or God or someone with some other title and do whatever sacrifice is demanded of them to keep the movement alive for the long run?

Why does there have to be a sacrifice?


Regards
DL

I guess that you did not quite get what the clip was saying or what is meant by hivishness in humans. I cannot say it any clearer I don't think. I guess you do not live in a city. As to my 95%. That is not important at present. It is you if you are 100%

What the hell did you mean with this my friend?

Ok..... sometimes its better to let something die out then to enforce it with unethical means, even if you think it is the right thing.

If the good dies, the evil wins.

What do you see as unethical?

Regards
DL
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11/10/2012 9:44:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/9/2012 8:19:02 PM, Ahmed.M wrote:
Did you ever forget to put "Regards DL" at the end of of your post? Ever?

He does, I've flustered him a few times..
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