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12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."
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12/1/2012 4:32:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:23:24 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:18:19 PM, drafterman wrote:
Meh. Just nuke it.

take meds.

I do. I don't know what that has to do with the topic at hand.

When my children fight over a toy, I take it away. I take it away to teach them that they need to learn how to share and take turns. You can't take a country away, nor is it feasible to deny them access, save for some sort of long-term irradiation.

Diplomacy is for adults. These people need a fvcking spanking.
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12/1/2012 4:39:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:32:08 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:23:24 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:18:19 PM, drafterman wrote:
Meh. Just nuke it.

take meds.

I do. I don't know what that has to do with the topic at hand.

When my children fight over a toy, I take it away. I take it away to teach them that they need to learn how to share and take turns. You can't take a country away, nor is it feasible to deny them access, save for some sort of long-term irradiation.

Diplomacy is for adults. These people need a fvcking spanking.

are you a stand up comic or what ;i'm laughing ,i guess that's good.
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12/1/2012 4:49:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

What is perhaps most ironic about this situation is that a major cause of settlement expansion is the fact that Israel is a representative democracy.

Consider two Presidential candidates in America who could not care less about foreign policy.

The people, however, care quite a bit about how China effects them domestically. Assume that, in this world, China's military and currency manipulation is the chief economic and safety concern of the people. On the side, Chinese militants will occasionally lob cruise missiles at America for sh!ts and giggles.

Imagine one candidate says in public "I don't really mind that China is a currency manipulator, we really need to be fair and respect their autonomy, even if its on land used to shoot rockets at your children."

The other says "Screw that, AMERICA! AMERICA! AMERICA!" By jingoism, appeals to nationality security, and exceptionalism, the politician not only wins over economic interests (who want China stopped) but also social interests.

Then assume one day all the biggest businesses in America say "Alright, stop accepting Chinese currency, or we know you're bluffing." Of course, their motive is just economic expansion.

Inaction is seen by the rest as a danger to social and national security interests.

Take these dynamics and instead of saying "stop accepting Chinese currency" they say "let us build a settlement on land owned by Palestinians."

In this light, Israel's elected politicians apparent lack of concern for the rest of the world is not only unsurprising, but would be expected for the party in power. It helps to consider the lack of empathy many Americans showed for the world's rejection of the Iraqi invasion which dissipated only after an apparent restoration of national security (i.e. no more 9/11s).

It should be emphasized though that to say "Israeli politicians are doing bad" is not to say "Israel is doing bad."
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12/1/2012 4:54:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:49:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

What is perhaps most ironic about this situation is that a major cause of settlement expansion is the fact that Israel is a representative democracy.

Consider two Presidential candidates in America who could not care less about foreign policy.

The people, however, care quite a bit about how China effects them domestically. Assume that, in this world, China's military and currency manipulation is the chief economic and safety concern of the people. On the side, Chinese militants will occasionally lob cruise missiles at America for sh!ts and giggles.

Imagine one candidate says in public "I don't really mind that China is a currency manipulator, we really need to be fair and respect their autonomy, even if its on land used to shoot rockets at your children."

The other says "Screw that, AMERICA! AMERICA! AMERICA!" By jingoism, appeals to nationality security, and exceptionalism, the politician not only wins over economic interests (who want China stopped) but also social interests.

Then assume one day all the biggest businesses in America say "Alright, stop accepting Chinese currency, or we know you're bluffing." Of course, their motive is just economic expansion.

Inaction is seen by the rest as a danger to social and national security interests.

Take these dynamics and instead of saying "stop accepting Chinese currency" they say "let us build a settlement on land owned by Palestinians."

In this light, Israel's elected politicians apparent lack of concern for the rest of the world is not only unsurprising, but would be expected for the party in power. It helps to consider the lack of empathy many Americans showed for the world's rejection of the Iraqi invasion which dissipated only after an apparent restoration of national security (i.e. no more 9/11s).

It should be emphasized though that to say "Israeli politicians are doing bad" is not to say "Israel is doing bad."

yep, you are either suffering from a dissociative disorder or you are having a good time. try someone else please. let someone with an honest opinion respond ,thanks!
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12/1/2012 5:04:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 5:01:26 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:57:43 PM, drafterman wrote:
I was being honest.

can a jew b honest?

I see no reason why not
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12/1/2012 5:23:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:54:44 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:49:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

What is perhaps most ironic about this situation is that a major cause of settlement expansion is the fact that Israel is a representative democracy.

Consider two Presidential candidates in America who could not care less about foreign policy.

The people, however, care quite a bit about how China effects them domestically. Assume that, in this world, China's military and currency manipulation is the chief economic and safety concern of the people. On the side, Chinese militants will occasionally lob cruise missiles at America for sh!ts and giggles.

Imagine one candidate says in public "I don't really mind that China is a currency manipulator, we really need to be fair and respect their autonomy, even if its on land used to shoot rockets at your children."

The other says "Screw that, AMERICA! AMERICA! AMERICA!" By jingoism, appeals to nationality security, and exceptionalism, the politician not only wins over economic interests (who want China stopped) but also social interests.

Then assume one day all the biggest businesses in America say "Alright, stop accepting Chinese currency, or we know you're bluffing." Of course, their motive is just economic expansion.

Inaction is seen by the rest as a danger to social and national security interests.

Take these dynamics and instead of saying "stop accepting Chinese currency" they say "let us build a settlement on land owned by Palestinians."

In this light, Israel's elected politicians apparent lack of concern for the rest of the world is not only unsurprising, but would be expected for the party in power. It helps to consider the lack of empathy many Americans showed for the world's rejection of the Iraqi invasion which dissipated only after an apparent restoration of national security (i.e. no more 9/11s).

It should be emphasized though that to say "Israeli politicians are doing bad" is not to say "Israel is doing bad."

yep, you are either suffering from a dissociative disorder or you are having a good time. try someone else please. let someone with an honest opinion respond ,thanks!

How many Israelis do you talk to about their domestic politics?
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12/1/2012 8:29:52 PM
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Why don't we just give the Palestinians a small piece of Afghanistan?? I don't think we'd be very comfortable if there was a terrorist organization elected as head of a nation that existed in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. I don't understand why anyone would expect the Israelis to be content with that arrangement. Maybe the Russians or Chinese could take them in.
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12/1/2012 10:02:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 5:27:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Wnope, don't bother. Falcon is Jimtimmy.

Daytona was also Jimtimmy...

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12/2/2012 1:56:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 8:29:52 PM, medic0506 wrote:
Why don't we just give the Palestinians a small piece of Afghanistan??

I dont think that Afghanistan holds any particular value or attractiveness to the jewish people compared to Israel....

I don't think we'd be very comfortable if there was a terrorist organization elected as head of a nation that existed in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. I don't understand why anyone would expect the Israelis to be content with that arrangement. Maybe the Russians or Chinese could take them in.

Russians have a bit of a bad history in dealing with Jews and Im not sure if the Chinese would be a much better host...
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12/2/2012 3:11:20 PM
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Eh, screw middle eastern politics. Just make Palestine a goddamn state and get along, please.
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12/3/2012 11:51:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

It's Israel's land.

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12/3/2012 5:41:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 11:51:24 AM, DanielChristopherBlowes wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

It's Israel's land.

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12/3/2012 5:48:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Any land afforded to the Palestinians will and always will be an unlivable rat hole. Even if the whole world chipped in and built new everything it would be an unlivable rat hole again with in a year. Any land afforded to Israel will turn into a vibrant bustling oasis of freedom and commerce that would provide jobs for Palestinians.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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12/3/2012 5:52:46 PM
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Any land they do have is a waste of good land for development.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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12/3/2012 6:01:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 5:52:46 PM, sadolite wrote:
Any land they do have is a waste of good land for development.
why do you support the jewish land grab,can you answer honestly?
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12/3/2012 7:22:10 PM
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At 12/1/2012 5:27:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Wnope, don't bother. Falcon is Jimtimmy.

I don't know if he's JT. But he is irrational anti semite.

Was JT such an anti semite?

BTW. Why is this in the religion section
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12/3/2012 7:34:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 7:22:10 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/1/2012 5:27:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Wnope, don't bother. Falcon is Jimtimmy.

I don't know if he's JT. But he is irrational anti semite.

Was JT such an anti semite?

BTW. Why is this in the religion section

thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self and thou shalt steal his land as well. talmud.
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12/3/2012 7:57:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 7:34:08 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/3/2012 7:22:10 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 12/1/2012 5:27:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Wnope, don't bother. Falcon is Jimtimmy.

I don't know if he's JT. But he is irrational anti semite.

Was JT such an anti semite?

BTW. Why is this in the religion section

thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self and thou shalt steal his land as well. talmud.

Idiot don't pretend you know either the bible or the talmud.

Every time you quote from the talmud, when I look it up, it turns out to be wrong.

The bible itself says you can't steal land.

The state of Israel is a secular state.

& one more thing your "quoting" the bible/talmud, which say that god gave Israel to the jews.
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Koopin: LOL! I just imagine Royal sitting in here apartment at night, when suddenly she hears a man outside speaking Hebrew as sh
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12/3/2012 8:47:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/1/2012 8:29:52 PM, medic0506 wrote:
Why don't we just give the Palestinians a small piece of Afghanistan?? I don't think we'd be very comfortable if there was a terrorist organization elected as head of a nation that existed in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. I don't understand why anyone would expect the Israelis to be content with that arrangement. Maybe the Russians or Chinese could take them in.

And why don't Christians in the U.S. just pick up and leave a place they might have called home for generations and move to .... Israel? Come on, f*cking really???
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12/3/2012 8:48:38 PM
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At 12/3/2012 11:51:24 AM, DanielChristopherBlowes wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

It's Israel's land.

"Whoever blesses my people I will bless and whoever curses them I will curse."

And there's the problem. Religion ruins EVERYTHING.
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12/4/2012 2:02:43 AM
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At 12/2/2012 1:56:42 AM, imabench wrote:
At 12/1/2012 8:29:52 PM, medic0506 wrote:
Why don't we just give the Palestinians a small piece of Afghanistan??

I dont think that Afghanistan holds any particular value or attractiveness to the jewish people compared to Israel....

Well it's obvious that the current arrangement isn't going to work, so give Hamas, and those that support it as the governing body, a small piece of unused land away from Israel, that they can call their home and run as they like.

I don't think we'd be very comfortable if there was a terrorist organization elected as head of a nation that existed in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. I don't understand why anyone would expect the Israelis to be content with that arrangement. Maybe the Russians or Chinese could take them in.

Russians have a bit of a bad history in dealing with Jews and Im not sure if the Chinese would be a much better host...
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12/4/2012 2:41:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 8:48:38 PM, naturebeckles wrote:
At 12/3/2012 11:51:24 AM, DanielChristopherBlowes wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

It's Israel's land.

"Whoever blesses my people I will bless and whoever curses them I will curse."

And there's the problem. Religion ruins EVERYTHING.

Impossible. Region would ruin Religion, thus there would be no religion.

In the words of another man

"Only a Sith Lord Deals in absolutes.
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12/4/2012 2:42:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 8:47:44 PM, naturebeckles wrote:
At 12/1/2012 8:29:52 PM, medic0506 wrote:
Why don't we just give the Palestinians a small piece of Afghanistan?? I don't think we'd be very comfortable if there was a terrorist organization elected as head of a nation that existed in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. I don't understand why anyone would expect the Israelis to be content with that arrangement. Maybe the Russians or Chinese could take them in.

And why don't Christians in the U.S. just pick up and leave a place they might have called home for generations and move to .... Israel? Come on, f*cking really???

No need for language... And besides, I heard that there is some conflict at the border of Isreal this time of year.
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12/4/2012 2:43:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 5:41:21 PM, falconduler wrote:
At 12/3/2012 11:51:24 AM, DanielChristopherBlowes wrote:
At 12/1/2012 4:13:53 PM, falconduler wrote:
JERUSALEM (AP) " Israel responded swiftly Friday to U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, revealing it will build 3,000 more homes for Jews on Israeli-occupied lands that the world body overwhelmingly said belong to the Palestinians.

The plans also include future construction in a strategic area of the West Bank where critics have long warned that Jewish settlements would kill hopes for a viable Palestinian state.

Israel's moves served as a harsh reminder to Palestinians " euphoric over the U.N. upgrade " that while they now have a state on paper, most of it remains very much under Israeli control.

"This is a doomsday scenario," Daniel Seidemann of Ir Amim, a group that promotes coexistence in Jerusalem, said of the building plans.

Israel's decision was bound to embarrass the United States, which was among just nine countries in the 193-member General Assembly to vote against accepting Palestine as a nonmember observer state.

Accelerated settlement construction could also set a more confrontational tone as Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas weighs his next moves.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland criticized the Israeli announcement. "These actions are counterproductive and make it harder to resume direct negotiations or achieve a two-state solution," she said.

Friday's decision was taken by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and eight senior Cabinet ministers, according to the Israeli news website Ynet.

The plans include 3,000 new apartments in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, as well as preparations for new construction in other large West Bank settlements, including Maaleh Adumim, near east Jerusalem, said an Israeli government official.

Among the projects is an expansion of Maaleh Adumim, known as E-1, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the decision with reporters.

Successive U.S. administrations have pressured Israel not to build in E-1 because it would effectively cut off east Jerusalem from the West Bank, and split the northern part of the territory from the southern part. Israel has said in the past it envisions 3,500 apartments there.

"E-1 will be the death of the two-state solution," said Seidemann, referring to the establishment of a state of Palestine alongside Israel. "If the pronouncements are to be treated seriously, we are months away from the implementation of E-1. This is very serious and very problematic."

Tzipi Livni, Israel's former foreign minister and chief negotiator with the Palestinians, warned that "the decision to build thousands of housing units as punishment to the Palestinians only punishes Israel ... (and) only isolates Israel further."

It's Israel's land.

"Whoever blesses my people I will bless and whoever curses them I will curse."
enjoy the kool ade.

No, cursing Israel is suicidal..
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