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12/27/2012 12:25:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I've been arguing with Christians for a while now, but the vast majority of the time it's more philosophical related.

In those terms, I find myself fairly firm in my opposition to Christianity. However, I know that a lot of people are Christians primarily because of historical and archeological arguments. In those areas my knowledge is limited. Therefore, I want to see those arguments so if any one has a book recommendation, I would like to hear it.

Don't recommend Lee Strobels book, "The Case for Christ" though, I already have it and have read most of it. The mental gymnastics are entertaining but for the most part I'm not too impressed.
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12/27/2012 12:40:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Best book defending the historicity of the resurrection that I know of:

http://www.amazon.com...

Best book chapter on the same subject that I know of:

http://www.google.com...
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12/27/2012 12:56:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
If you don't mind reading a whole lot, I highly recommend N.T. Wright's series called Christian Origins and the Question of God. So far, there are three books in the series:

The New Testament and the People of God

http://www.amazon.com...

Jesus and the Victory of God

http://www.amazon.com...

The Resurrection of the Son of God

http://www.amazon.com...

N.T. Wright considers himself a historian and would object to being lumped in with apologists, but I recommend his books because do offer a good defense of the primary historical claims that Christians make about Jesus, namely, that he was the Messiah and that he was raised from the dead. Plus, it gives a lot of historical background information about the Jewish and Roman world of the first century, which sheds a lot of light on the New Testament.

Another good book on the resurrection that also has a detailed section on historical methodology:

The Resurrection of Jesus by Mike Licona

http://www.amazon.com...

All the books I've recommended so far have been 600+ pages. Here's some books that aren't nearly that long:

Jesus Under Fire, edited by J.P. Moreland and Michael J. Wilkins

http://www.amazon.com...

This is a collection of essays defending a conservative view of the historical Jesus mainly against the Jesus Seminar.

What Have They Done With Jesus?: Beyond Strange Theories and Bad History--Why We Can Trust the Bible by Ben Witherington III

http://www.amazon.com...

Reinventing Jesus: How Contemporary Skeptics Miss the Real jesus and Mislead Popular Culture by J. Ed Komoszewski, M. James Sawyer, and Daniel B. Wallace

http://www.amazon.com...

The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus by Gary R. Habermas and Michael R. Licona

http://www.amazon.com...

This last book is a shorter defense of the resurrection than the two above by Mike Licona and N.T. Wright, so if you're into shorter books, get this one.
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12/27/2012 4:33:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Thanks for the recommendations.
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12/27/2012 6:03:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
To be honest, it's one of the subjects where any book that doesn't have the title "Jesus wasn't real" is going to be a book promoting Jesus as the Messiah, due to the nature of the people who study it. If you want to discuss it at all, give me a message on here (as it's one of those topics which is just as good to discuss as it is to do anything else with).
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12/27/2012 6:42:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/27/2012 6:03:31 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
To be honest, it's one of the subjects where any book that doesn't have the title "Jesus wasn't real" is going to be a book promoting Jesus as the Messiah, due to the nature of the people who study it.

That's not true. Historical Jesus scholars rarely discuss the issue of whether Jesus was actually the Messiah or not. What they discuss, instead, is whether Jesus considered himself to be the messiah or not. And I have a few books on the historical Jesus that deny that he even considered himself to be the messiah. But none of these people deny his existence.
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12/27/2012 7:02:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/27/2012 12:56:30 PM, philochristos wrote:
If you don't mind reading a whole lot, I highly recommend N.T. Wright's series called Christian Origins and the Question of God. So far, there are three books in the series:

I now remember Antony Flew saying Wright's work was the best defense of Christianity out there. I couldn't recall who it was though till now. I'll definitely consider him.
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12/27/2012 7:12:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I find "The DaVinci code' extremely accurate regarding Christianity

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