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1/13/2013 1:28:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Science & Religion.
Have we Philosophy of Physics?
Have we Philosophy of Religions?
1
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: God created woman from Adam"s rib,
using physical laws. So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and
product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable,
but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. "
/ Albert Einstein. /
=========.
2
Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
#
Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk...
#
The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk...
. . .. etc
Question: Where did Galaxies come from? We don"t have answer.
#
You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron.
/ Albert Einstein./
#
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
#
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
/ Richard Feynman /.
#
The Editor of the Australian magazine Cosmos asked,
" Is it time to call a spade a spade, and admit that theoretical
physics is heading down the wrong track? "
#
And somebody wrote:
The theoretical physics is a greatest joke in human history.
==.
So, what is Physics? Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
===== .
3
What to do?
I think, at first, we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn"t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
#
Now we have three ( 3) sources of the Universe:
Big bang , vacuum and God.
Which of them is correct ?

About big band and god my opinion is:
the action, when the God compressed all Universe
into his palm, physicists had named -a singular point
And action, when the God opened his palm,
physicists had named - the Big Bang
=.
And about vacuum Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can"t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
==========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/13/2013 4:10:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2013 1:28:41 AM, socratus wrote:
Science & Religion.
Have we Philosophy of Physics?
Have we Philosophy of Religions?
1
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: God created woman from Adam"s rib,
using physical laws. So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and
product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable,
but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. "
/ Albert Einstein. /
=========.
2
Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
#
Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk...
#
The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk...
. . .. etc
Question: Where did Galaxies come from? We don"t have answer.
#
You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron.
/ Albert Einstein./
#
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
#
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
/ Richard Feynman /.
#
The Editor of the Australian magazine Cosmos asked,
" Is it time to call a spade a spade, and admit that theoretical
physics is heading down the wrong track? "
#
And somebody wrote:
The theoretical physics is a greatest joke in human history.
==.
So, what is Physics? Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
===== .
3
What to do?
I think, at first, we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn"t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
#
Now we have three ( 3) sources of the Universe:
Big bang , vacuum and God.
Which of them is correct ?

About big band and god my opinion is:
the action, when the God compressed all Universe
into his palm, physicists had named -a singular point
And action, when the God opened his palm,
physicists had named - the Big Bang
=.
And about vacuum Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can"t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
==========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.

Your opinion is your opinion, man made. Not much to trust in now is it?
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1/13/2013 4:18:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/13/2013 1:28:41 AM, socratus wrote:
Science & Religion.
Have we Philosophy of Physics?
Have we Philosophy of Religions?
1
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: God created woman from Adam"s rib,
using physical laws. So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and
product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable,
but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. "
/ Albert Einstein. /
=========.
2
Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
#
Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk...
#
The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk...
. . .. etc
Question: Where did Galaxies come from? We don"t have answer.
#
You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron.
/ Albert Einstein./
#
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
#
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
/ Richard Feynman /.
#
The Editor of the Australian magazine Cosmos asked,
" Is it time to call a spade a spade, and admit that theoretical
physics is heading down the wrong track? "
#
And somebody wrote:
The theoretical physics is a greatest joke in human history.
==.
So, what is Physics? Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
===== .
3
What to do?
I think, at first, we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn"t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
#
Now we have three ( 3) sources of the Universe:
Big bang , vacuum and God.
Which of them is correct ?

About big band and god my opinion is:
the action, when the God compressed all Universe
into his palm, physicists had named -a singular point
And action, when the God opened his palm,
physicists had named - the Big Bang
=.
And about vacuum Paul Dirac wrote:
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can"t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
==========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.

Oh! I forgot to add, and now we have the philosophy of Socratus, nothing but Fables and fantsies! All aboard!
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1/13/2013 5:39:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
1
Religion:
Did God create woman from Adam"s rib according to physical laws ?
2
Science:
About " big bang" is written many thick (very thick) books.
But nobody knows the reason of the "Big Bang".
I know.
The action, when the God compresses all Universe
into his palm, we named " a singular point".
And action, when the God opens his palm,
we named the "big bang".
==.
And the Catholic Church adopted the theory of Big Bang
as a good proof of God existing. And Pope Pius XII
declared this in 1951.
http://discovermagazine.com...
=.
What is our intellect ?
We can see this practically :
after " big bang " all Galaxies run away from us.
============..

Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
=.
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/13/2013 9:33:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"The action, when the God compresses all Universe
into his palm, we named " a singular point".
And action, when the God opens his palm,
we named the "big bang"."

I like it.
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1/14/2013 4:39:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Laying out a choice between science or religion is the one of the worst false dillemas it is possible to make.

Also, I am perfectly willing to accept physics is philosophy (at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean) once you can point out a power station that was designed using other philosophical approaches, a Rover on Mars that was landed based on an application of Decartes, or an advanced microprocessor that uses a components based on existentialism rather than P-N silicon junctions.
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1/14/2013 4:48:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This thread is intellectually barren.

There actually is a philosophy of phyics and religion. Go to any big named school you like.
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1/14/2013 4:52:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2013 4:39:27 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Laying out a choice between science or religion is the one of the worst false dillemas it is possible to make.

Also, I am perfectly willing to accept physics is philosophy (at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean) once you can point out a power station that was designed using other philosophical approaches, a Rover on Mars that was landed based on an application of Decartes, or an advanced microprocessor that uses a components based on existentialism rather than P-N silicon junctions.

I'm sure you were referring to the Cartesian Plane and geometry and all, but interesting choice to go with DeCartes on that one - Cogito ergo sum.

He really was a philosopher in the truest sense, as well as a scientist. (or, maybe that was on purpose. either way, bravo)
War is over, if you want it.

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1/14/2013 4:59:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2013 4:52:48 PM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 1/14/2013 4:39:27 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Laying out a choice between science or religion is the one of the worst false dillemas it is possible to make.

Also, I am perfectly willing to accept physics is philosophy (at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean) once you can point out a power station that was designed using other philosophical approaches, a Rover on Mars that was landed based on an application of Decartes, or an advanced microprocessor that uses a components based on existentialism rather than P-N silicon junctions.

I'm sure you were referring to the Cartesian Plane and geometry and all, but interesting choice to go with DeCartes on that one - Cogito ergo sum.

He really was a philosopher in the truest sense, as well as a scientist. (or, maybe that was on purpose. either way, bravo)

I could only think of two philosophers that everyone would know were philosphers, I could have gone with Sartre. Either way, I purposefully added the statement "(at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean)", as we all know what the original argument is trying to say, even though we could beat him up with the semantics.
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1/14/2013 5:14:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/14/2013 4:59:33 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 1/14/2013 4:52:48 PM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 1/14/2013 4:39:27 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Laying out a choice between science or religion is the one of the worst false dillemas it is possible to make.

Also, I am perfectly willing to accept physics is philosophy (at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean) once you can point out a power station that was designed using other philosophical approaches, a Rover on Mars that was landed based on an application of Decartes, or an advanced microprocessor that uses a components based on existentialism rather than P-N silicon junctions.

I'm sure you were referring to the Cartesian Plane and geometry and all, but interesting choice to go with DeCartes on that one - Cogito ergo sum.

He really was a philosopher in the truest sense, as well as a scientist. (or, maybe that was on purpose. either way, bravo)

I could only think of two philosophers that everyone would know were philosphers, I could have gone with Sartre. Either way, I purposefully added the statement "(at least in the way you are insinuating it to mean)", as we all know what the original argument is trying to say, even though we could beat him up with the semantics.

Bacon, Locke, Socrates, Kant, Kierkegaard, Confucius, Neitze, Camus...

I just thought it was a cool, apropos choice - intentional or not.
War is over, if you want it.

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1/15/2013 11:55:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Book " Quantum theory".
/ By John Polkinghorne /
http://en.wikipedia.org...
=== .

John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book " Quantum theory"
the Feynman"s thought : " I think I can safely say that
nobody understands quantum mechanics. "
Why?
Because, he wrote:
" ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should.
We shall see in what follows that important interpretative
issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their
eventual settlement not only physical insight but also
metaphysical decision ".
/ preface/
" Serious interpretative problems remain unresolved,
and these are the subject of continuing dispute"
/ page 40/
" If the study of quantum physics teaches one anything,
it is that the world is full of surprises"
/ page 87 /
" Metaphysical criteria that the scientific community take
very seriously in assessing the weight to put on a theory
include: . . . ."
/ page 88 /
"Quantum theory is certainly strange and surprising, . . ."
/ page92 /
" Wave / particle duality is a highly surprising and
instructive phenomenon, . ."
/ page 92 /
==.
In my opinion John Polkinghorne was right writing
what to understand and to solve the problems of the Universe:
" They will demand for their eventual settlement not only
physical insight but also metaphysical decision ".
/ preface /
And, maybe, Aristotle was right separating the world and knowledge
on two parts: Physics and Metaphysics.
=== .
Somebody wrote:
The science will purify the religion of the "dross".
I agree.
===========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
===.
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/16/2013 8:47:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Theology and Physics
=.
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God
/ John 1:1 /
#
In the beginning was the Word
And the Word was written by formula: T = 0K
T = 0K is an Absolute Reference frame
Scientists call this Absolute Reference frame " Vacuum"
But if in the beginning was the Absolute Infinite T = 0K,
can the T=0K take the functions of God?
Can T = 0K be an Absolute God?
To answer to this question we need to ask:
Which kind of particles can exist in this
Absolute Reference frame: T=0K?
#
And then " God said, "Let there be light," and there was light"
/ Genesis 1:3 /
It means:
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the " Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta "
=.
Best wishes
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
===.
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/24/2013 4:46:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Belief . . . from history of physics.
=.
Many years Max Planck was attracted with the
absolutely black body problem.
If quantum of light moving with speed c=1 falls in the area of
absolutely black body and does not radiate back, then " terminal
dead " will come. In order to save the quantum of light from "death "
Planck decided that it is possible that quantum of light
will radiate back with quantum unit (h ), (h=Et )
This unit does not come on formulas or equations.
Planck introduced this unit from heaven, from ceiling.
Sorry. Sorry.
Scientists say: Planck introduced this unit intuitively.
They say: Planck introduced unit (h) phenomenologically
===..
Phenomenology.
1.
the movement founded by Husserl that concentrates on the
detailed description of conscious experience, without recourse
to explanation, metaphysical assumptions, and traditional
philosophical questions
http://www.collinsdictionary.com...
==="
So. Planck discovered the quantum of energy / action
"without recourse to explanation, metaphysical assumptions,
and traditional philosophical questions".
Many years Planck tried to find rational explanation for his unit
but without success.
We can read that unit (h) is an "inner" impulse (spin) of particle.
But what "inner impulse" means? We have no answer.
==.
There are 1000 books and millions articles about
"philosophy of science" but how can I believe them
if they didn"t explain me "what quantum particle is".
Our today"s belief in science is similar to the past belief
in religion: " I believe because it is absurd."
/ Tertullian. (ca.160 " ca.220 AD) /
( in science " big bang,
in religion - God create woman from Adam"s rib.)
==..
The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/24/2013 6:31:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 11:55:06 AM, socratus wrote:
Book " Quantum theory".
/ By John Polkinghorne /
http://en.wikipedia.org...
=== .

John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book " Quantum theory"
the Feynman"s thought : " I think I can safely say that
nobody understands quantum mechanics. "
Why?
Because, he wrote:
" ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should.
We shall see in what follows that important interpretative
issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their
eventual settlement not only physical insight but also
metaphysical decision ".
/ preface/
" Serious interpretative problems remain unresolved,
and these are the subject of continuing dispute"
/ page 40/
" If the study of quantum physics teaches one anything,
it is that the world is full of surprises"
/ page 87 /
" Metaphysical criteria that the scientific community take
very seriously in assessing the weight to put on a theory
include: . . . ."
/ page 88 /
"Quantum theory is certainly strange and surprising, . . ."
/ page92 /
" Wave / particle duality is a highly surprising and
instructive phenomenon, . ."
/ page 92 /
==.
In my opinion John Polkinghorne was right writing
what to understand and to solve the problems of the Universe:
" They will demand for their eventual settlement not only
physical insight but also metaphysical decision ".
/ preface /
And, maybe, Aristotle was right separating the world and knowledge
on two parts: Physics and Metaphysics.
=== .
Somebody wrote:
The science will purify the religion of the "dross".
I agree.
===========.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
===.

Polkinghorne can't be right AND maybe Aristotle was right because they expressed diametrically opposed positions in this regard.

"In the end, there must be a unified account combining the two aspects, there are not two physical worlds but one world encountered at these two different levels." - John Polkinghorne
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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1/24/2013 8:15:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/24/2013 4:46:23 AM, socratus wrote:
Belief . . . from history of physics.
=.
Many years Max Planck was attracted with the
absolutely black body problem.
If quantum of light moving with speed c=1 falls in the area of
absolutely black body and does not radiate back, then " terminal
dead " will come. In order to save the quantum of light from "death "
Planck decided that it is possible that quantum of light
will radiate back with quantum unit (h ), (h=Et )
This unit does not come on formulas or equations.
Planck introduced this unit from heaven, from ceiling.
Sorry. Sorry.
Scientists say: Planck introduced this unit intuitively.
They say: Planck introduced unit (h) phenomenologically
===..
Phenomenology.
1.
the movement founded by Husserl that concentrates on the
detailed description of conscious experience, without recourse
to explanation, metaphysical assumptions, and traditional
philosophical questions
http://www.collinsdictionary.com...
==="
So. Planck discovered the quantum of energy / action
"without recourse to explanation, metaphysical assumptions,
and traditional philosophical questions".
Many years Planck tried to find rational explanation for his unit
but without success.
We can read that unit (h) is an "inner" impulse (spin) of particle.
But what "inner impulse" means? We have no answer.
==.
There are 1000 books and millions articles about
"philosophy of science" but how can I believe them
if they didn"t explain me "what quantum particle is".
Our today"s belief in science is similar to the past belief
in religion: " I believe because it is absurd."
/ Tertullian. (ca.160 " ca.220 AD) /
( in science " big bang,
in religion - God create woman from Adam"s rib.)
==..

I see the conjunction of lot of disparate ideas here but it is still unclear what the point is that you are trying to make, nevertheless, I can in fact explain what a quantum particle is.

Einstein said "It is the theory that allows us to see the facts",. A quantum particle is a theoretical construct that, according to quantum theory can never be observed directly, its existence depends on not being contradicted by experiment. Quantum particles are hypothetical particles acting according to theory, interacting with other hypothetical particles, whose existence is built on a very long chain of inferences. We know the particles exist because they were verified by experiment; and we know the experiment was designed correctly because it found the particles.

So there you go, I've pitched a slow one right into what I suspect is your strike zone, now it's time to take a swing and reveal to us what you are trying to say.

Do you have a theory?
"It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive." " C. W. Leadbeater
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1/24/2013 2:51:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.

Gravity hate forum is that way --------->
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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1/25/2013 12:21:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Belief . . . and string theory.
==.
But your question really is "what does a physical particle look like?"
My answer is that they look like strings. But I have to admit that
strings are still concepts in the regime of metaphysics..
. . .
So string theory IS my religion.
/ Richard Ruquist /
======..
1
Book " The trouble with Physics" / by Lee Smolin /
Part 8. The first superstring revolution.
Page 126 " 127.
". . . the growing catalog of string theories meant that
we weren"t actually studying a fundamental theory." . . .
" . . . but the many versions of string theory opened up
the possibility that it was true of essentially all the
properties of the elementary particles and forces. This would
mean that properties of the elementary particles were
environmental and could change in time. If so, it would mean
that physics would be more like biology, in that the
properties of the elementary particles would depend on the
history of our universe. "
#
" . . . at least one big idea is missing.
How do we find that missing idea?"
/ Page 308. Lee Smolin. /

2
String theory . . . . " Type IIA strings as one-dimensional
objects, having only lengths but no thickness, . . . . . "

/ page 311. Book: The elegant Universe. By Brian Greene /

3.
We don't know what we are talking about"
/ - Nobel laureate David Gross referring
to the current state of string theory ./

4.
How did the idea of many dimensions arise?
==..
It began in 1907 when Minkowski tried to understand
SRT and invented 4-D negative spacetime continuum
Nobody knows what Minkowski 4-D really is.
#.
Poor young Einstein, reading Minkowski interpretation,
said that now he couldn"t understand his own theory.
Th. Kaluza agreed with Einstein and in 1921 tried
to explain SRT using 5D space.
This theory was tested and found insufficient.
"Well", said physicists and mathematicians,
" maybe 6D, 7D, 8D, 9D, 11D or 27D spaces will explain it".
And they had done it.
But""". But there is one problem.
To create new D space, they must add a new parameter.
Because it is impossible to create new D space without
a new force, a new parameter.
And they take this parameter arbitrarily
( it fixed according to they opinion, not by objective rules).
The physicist R. Lipin explained this situation in such way:
"Give me three parameters and I can fit an elephant.
With four I can make him wiggle his trunk""
To this Lipin"s opinion it is possible to add:
"with one more parameter the elephant will fly."
The mathematicians sell and we buy these theories.
Where are our brains? Where is the logic?
#
If we don't know what 1+1 = 2
how can we know what 5+4 = 9 ?
And if we don't know what is negative Mincowski 4-D
how can we understand 11-D, 27-D and string theory ?
=========.
If I were a king, I would publish a law:
every physicist who takes part in the creation
of 4D space and higher must be awarded a medal
"To the winner over common sense" because they have
won us using the abstract ideas of Minkowski and Kaluza.
==.
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/26/2013 12:49:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Physicists Find Evidence That The Universe Is A 'Giant Brain'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk... ... 96346.html

http://www.space.com... ... brain.html

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1/26/2013 3:21:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Me Conductor the ongoing failed cult perpetuator: You have no credible point!

Science & religion are both man made creations! Story book science & religion's legitimate evidence = constant zero!

Scientology is the ONLY non-story book belief!

Your student & generic unsuccessful figurative Saviour, moi!
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1/28/2013 2:14:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 3:21:31 AM, Conductor wrote:

You have no credible point!
Science & religion are both man made creations!
Story book science & religion's legitimate evidence = constant zero!

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I have very good credible point.
What is name of this credible point ?
Albert Einstein said:
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. "
What is the name of this tree ?
The name of this tree is Absolute Vacuum.
My credible point is Absolute Vacuum: T=0K.
In the Absolute Vacuum: T=0K is hidden the primary conditions of Existence.
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About vacuum:
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" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can"t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
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The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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Wikipedia :
" Unfortunately neither the concept of space nor of time is well defined,
resulting in a dilemma. If we don't know the character of time nor of space,
how can we characterize either? "
http://en.wikipedia.org...
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"Now we know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects
over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the cosmic,"
said Peter Milonni
from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
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Although we are used to thinking of empty space as containing
nothing at all, and therefore having zero energy, the quantum
rules say that there is some uncertainty about this. Perhaps each
tiny bit of the vacuum actually contains rather a lot of energy.
If the vacuum contained enough energy, it could convert this
into particles, in line with E-Mc^2.
/ Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 147-148.
By Michael White and John Gribbin. /
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Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned into
particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.
/ University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb./
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Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness "
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions.
http://www.aip.org...
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing"the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com...
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The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .
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1/29/2013 1:38:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
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There were people who said "God " and thought about Zeus.
There are people who say "God " and think about Holly Cow.
If physicists made a God they would give Him concrete physical parameters.
Can God create a Universe which physicists could not understand ?
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The secret of God and Existence is hidden
in the ' Theory of Vacuum and Light Quanta' .