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Alex Rosenberg vs. William Lane Craig LIVE

Nur-Ab-Sal
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2/1/2013 5:42:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hopefully, I'll be able to watch.
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:02:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 5:54:56 PM, stubs wrote:
i put in my email and everything but have not gotten an email from them yet. Should I have?

Nah, just go to that link and press watch now in the center there.
Nur-Ab-Sal
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2/1/2013 6:16:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:02:42 PM, Apeiron wrote:
At 2/1/2013 5:54:56 PM, stubs wrote:
i put in my email and everything but have not gotten an email from them yet. Should I have?

Nah, just go to that link and press watch now in the center there.

It keeps telling me to sign up, and I already did. Oh well.
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:18:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:16:28 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:02:42 PM, Apeiron wrote:
At 2/1/2013 5:54:56 PM, stubs wrote:
i put in my email and everything but have not gotten an email from them yet. Should I have?

Nah, just go to that link and press watch now in the center there.

It keeps telling me to sign up, and I already did. Oh well.

http://watch.biola.edu...
stubs
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2/1/2013 6:38:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
They're not really new arguments. He has just worded them differently. Craig made so many arguments the other dude won't have time to respond to all them and make his own... I think
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:46:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:38:18 PM, stubs wrote:
They're not really new arguments. He has just worded them differently. Craig made so many arguments the other dude won't have time to respond to all them and make his own... I think

Nah man, argument from mathematical description and consciousness.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:46:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:38:57 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Well WLC is far less annoying than Alex Rosenberg. And it's only been about 30 seconds!

Lol, uh, this is, uh, true, uh.
stubs
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2/1/2013 6:48:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:46:01 PM, Apeiron wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:38:18 PM, stubs wrote:
They're not really new arguments. He has just worded them differently. Craig made so many arguments the other dude won't have time to respond to all them and make his own... I think

Nah man, argument from mathematical description and consciousness.

I'm nearly positive they have been in his books but I could be wrong
Ramshutu
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2/1/2013 6:49:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:46:29 PM, Apeiron wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:38:57 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
Well WLC is far less annoying than Alex Rosenberg. And it's only been about 30 seconds!

Lol, uh, this is, uh, true, uh.

Yeah, um, I think you're right. Okay?
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:51:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:48:06 PM, stubs wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:46:01 PM, Apeiron wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:38:18 PM, stubs wrote:
They're not really new arguments. He has just worded them differently. Craig made so many arguments the other dude won't have time to respond to all them and make his own... I think

Nah man, argument from mathematical description and consciousness.

I'm nearly positive they have been in his books but I could be wrong

Definitely not in RF 3rd ed.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:52:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:51:33 PM, SovereignDream wrote:
So far, Rosenberg's opening has been vastly underwhelming, I think.

It's embarrassing.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:54:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:52:35 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
He's making reasonable points, but his delivery and manner is absolutely attrocious.

Only reasonable point I've heard so far was the denial of the PSR, but I have sympathy for the PSR anyhow.
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2/1/2013 6:55:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Not to distract from the debate at hand, but Edward Feser has a great and devastating round-up of blog posts critical of Rosenberg's The Atheist's Guide to Reality. And I understate the use of the word "devastating".
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2/1/2013 6:56:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:55:46 PM, SovereignDream wrote:
Not to distract from the debate at hand, but Edward Feser has a great and devastating round-up of blog posts critical of Rosenberg's The Atheist's Guide to Reality. And I understate the use of the word "devastating".

Forgot to link it:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com...
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 6:59:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:57:34 PM, SovereignDream wrote:
Annnnndddd Rosenberg swings with a Problem of Evil/emotional attack and misses...

Oh ya. And the EU dilemma has been answered to the death.
Nur-Ab-Sal
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2/1/2013 7:00:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:56:13 PM, SovereignDream wrote:
At 2/1/2013 6:55:46 PM, SovereignDream wrote:
Not to distract from the debate at hand, but Edward Feser has a great and devastating round-up of blog posts critical of Rosenberg's The Atheist's Guide to Reality. And I understate the use of the word "devastating".

Forgot to link it:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com...

Feser is a boss.
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
Apeiron
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2/1/2013 7:00:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 6:59:57 PM, Polaris wrote:
Too bad Hitchens is no longer with us, Rosenberg isn't a very effective debater.

Hitch dramatically last with Craig anyhow.
Nur-Ab-Sal
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2/1/2013 7:07:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 7:05:55 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
I am literally expecting naturalism to manifest itself to throw WLC off the stage right now....

Literally?

Seriously? You are literally expecting that?
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
Ramshutu
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2/1/2013 7:08:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/1/2013 7:07:21 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 2/1/2013 7:05:55 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
I am literally expecting naturalism to manifest itself to throw WLC off the stage right now....

Literally?

Seriously? You are literally expecting that?

Yes. Literally. I do not chose words by accident. Pudding.