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Pwner
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2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.
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2/27/2013 5:04:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Nur-Ab-Sal.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 5:13:43 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Thanks, I should add that InquireTruth has already been suggested, but unfortunately had to forfeit the debate. I understand that life gets way too busy for these things sometimes.
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2/27/2013 6:16:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
If you're looking for the hardest de-conversion, try medic0506. As to the best theist debater here, I dunno, maybe 16kadams?
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2/27/2013 6:53:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 6:52:22 AM, Kinesis wrote:
inquiretruth and popculturepooka are the best. contradiction and krfournier too. Dunno if they're still active though.

Forgot about popculture. He is definitely up there. Iv never heard of iquiretruth before though.
"Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact." - Carl Sagan

This is the response of the defenders of Sparta to the Commander of the Roman Army: "If you are a god, you will not hurt those who have never injured you. If you are a man, advance - you will find men equal to yourself. And women.
Kinesis
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2/27/2013 6:57:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 6:53:41 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 2/27/2013 6:52:22 AM, Kinesis wrote:
inquiretruth and popculturepooka are the best. contradiction and krfournier too. Dunno if they're still active though.

Forgot about popculture. He is definitely up there. Iv never heard of iquiretruth before though.

I'd say he's the top religious debater on the entire site. Again, I don't think he's active anymore tho.
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2/27/2013 8:14:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 6:16:36 AM, muzebreak wrote:
If you're looking for the hardest de-conversion, try medic0506.

I take that as a compliment. Thank you.
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2/27/2013 8:55:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
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2/27/2013 9:20:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 8:14:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/27/2013 6:16:36 AM, muzebreak wrote:
If you're looking for the hardest de-conversion, try medic0506.

I take that as a compliment. Thank you.

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2/27/2013 9:36:16 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Christians are Christian because they believe Jesus is God and he rose from the dead, thus saving "US" from death!

Christians are Christian because they have a HISTORY going back two thousand years to Jesus! THEREFORE...
Acts 5:38
Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."
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2/27/2013 9:37:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:36:16 AM, Dogknox wrote:
Christians are Christian because they believe Jesus is God and he rose from the dead, thus saving "US" from death!

Christians are Christian because they have a HISTORY going back two thousand years to Jesus! THEREFORE...
Acts 5:38
Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."


Hahahahahahha. LOGIC.
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2/27/2013 9:47:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM, Pwner wrote:
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.

I'm your Huckleberry.
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2/27/2013 10:43:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:20:17 AM, Kinesis wrote:
At 2/27/2013 8:14:06 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/27/2013 6:16:36 AM, muzebreak wrote:
If you're looking for the hardest de-conversion, try medic0506.

I take that as a compliment. Thank you.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts."

-Bertrand Russell

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a man being confident in his ability to not be gullible and easily persuaded by popular arguments. If Mr. Russell wishes to call me a fool, from the grave, in spite of his views on religion making himself a fool, by his own quote, so be it.
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2/27/2013 10:57:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:22:37 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
https://alwaysquestionauthority.files.wordpress.com...

Sam Harris explaining why it's so hard to convert theists

I can't help but wonder who Mr. Harris is talking to that might give him such an argument. It is a brilliant soundbite though, if you're easily impressed with strawmen and can't pick out presuppositions.
medic0506
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2/27/2013 11:02:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM, Pwner wrote:
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.

Krfournier, Contradiction, Pooka, Keytar, Mestari, Reformedarsenal, Datcmoto, Logic_on_rails, are all very good debaters and would be a good challenge. I'm prolly missing a few.
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2/27/2013 11:03:54 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 11:02:23 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM, Pwner wrote:
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.

Krfournier, Contradiction, Pooka, Keytar, Mestari, Reformedarsenal, Datcmoto, Logic_on_rails, medic0506 are all very good debaters and would be a good challenge. I'm prolly missing a few.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 12:28:45 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Also Apeiron seems really smart and stuff too.

http://debate.org...
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 12:43:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 6:16:36 AM, muzebreak wrote:
If you're looking for the hardest de-conversion, try medic0506. As to the best theist debater here, I dunno, maybe 16kadams?

I don't debate religeon often.
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2/27/2013 12:44:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 6:54:58 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
Popculture and Mestari are the best.

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2/27/2013 2:15:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM, Pwner wrote:
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.

Me.
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Nur-Ab-Sal
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2/27/2013 2:34:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Contradiction doesn't come on here anymore, so probably popculturepooka, KRFournier, InquireTruth, Mestari, KeytarHero, ReformedArsenal, Apeiron, philochristos, etc.

Though I certainly appreciate AMTY's mentioning of me, I'm nowhere near their level.
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2/27/2013 2:36:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:37:38 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:36:16 AM, Dogknox wrote:
Christians are Christian because they believe Jesus is God and he rose from the dead, thus saving "US" from death!

Christians are Christian because they have a HISTORY going back two thousand years to Jesus! THEREFORE...
Acts 5:38
Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."


Hahahahahahha. LOGIC.

dylancatlow Thank you for your thoughtful reply ???????????????????????

Not logic but FACTS history can't lie! Hahahahahahha.

Dogknox
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2/27/2013 2:36:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
And let us not forget His Holiness St. Dogknox, who is the most formidable human to ever live on any topic worth competition.

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2/27/2013 6:02:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 2:36:21 PM, Dogknox wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:37:38 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:36:16 AM, Dogknox wrote:
Christians are Christian because they believe Jesus is God and he rose from the dead, thus saving "US" from death!

Christians are Christian because they have a HISTORY going back two thousand years to Jesus! THEREFORE...
Acts 5:38
Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."


Hahahahahahha. LOGIC.

dylancatlow Thank you for your thoughtful reply ???????????????????????

Not logic but FACTS history can't lie! Hahahahahahha.

Dogknox

*Smiles cautiously * Yeah.....
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2/27/2013 6:04:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 5:03:08 AM, Pwner wrote:
I've successfully deconverted two theists before. I wonder if you might share your opinion on who is the most formidable theist here, and we'll see if we can't make it three.

Popculturepooka.
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2/27/2013 9:10:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'd doubt you'd convert them (though goodluck) but I'd say, popculturepooka, inquiretruth, KRFournier, philochrstos, apeiron and Keytar.

(Based partially off who's active)
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2/27/2013 9:21:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm not sure why you'd be interested in persuading a "formidable" theist. As with any belief system, the least informed theist is probably the bigger threat.
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