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2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.
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2/27/2013 9:56:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

How interesting,
And where did you read "sin and you will go to hell"?
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2/27/2013 9:58:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:56:33 AM, Angry_Bird wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

How interesting,
And where did you read "sin and you will go to hell"?

So then wouldn't it be the ultimate sacrifice?
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2/27/2013 10:01:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell?

Too late.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:01:52 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell?

Too late.

Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.
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2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 10:05:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

You're disgusting.
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2/27/2013 10:06:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:05:50 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

You're disgusting.

Thanks :')
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 10:12:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:06:18 AM, Angry_Bird wrote:
Did you read it or make it up and then decide to try pass it off as christianity?

I didn't claim it's what Christians believe. I claimed according to Christian doctrine, killing an infant before they can sin is a favor.
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2/27/2013 10:13:51 AM
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And if original sin has got you caught up: it would be a favor to kill anyone who is, as of that moment, going to heaven.
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2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM
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At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.
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2/27/2013 12:13:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

Do you really believe this stuff, or do you just need attention??
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2/27/2013 12:32:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:05:50 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

You're disgusting.

LOL.
He's trolling you.
Cause your op is ignorant.
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2/27/2013 12:34:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

What the hell?!
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2/27/2013 12:34:53 PM
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At 2/27/2013 12:32:10 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:05:50 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

You're disgusting.

LOL.
He's trolling you.
Cause your op is ignorant.

Hope so.
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2/27/2013 12:39:55 PM
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At 2/27/2013 12:34:31 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

What the hell?!

Exactly.
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 12:44:00 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

That would only be true if you believed all babies went to heaven automatically. Some Christians do believe this but it is not overall a doctrine of Christianity and can be found nowhere in the Bible.
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2/27/2013 12:48:53 PM
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At 2/27/2013 12:39:55 PM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 12:34:31 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

What the hell?!

Exactly.

Can I have your real opinion here.

And I meant it as a pun ;)
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2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?
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2/27/2013 1:32:03 PM
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At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?

We don't know, any answer given could only be speculative. Some could go to heaven while others hell. Even inside the womb they are capable of having faith.
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2/27/2013 1:32:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 12:48:53 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/27/2013 12:39:55 PM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 12:34:31 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:04:47 AM, AlwaysMoreThanYou wrote:
At 2/27/2013 10:02:56 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
Lol, original sin? So are you saying babies who die shortly after birth go to hell? Makes sense.

Yup. Miscarriages and abortions too.

What the hell?!

Exactly.

Can I have your real opinion here.

Limbo.

And I meant it as a pun ;)

lol
'When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.' - John 16:13
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2/27/2013 1:36:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 1:32:03 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?

We don't know, any answer given could only be speculative. Some could go to heaven while others hell. Even inside the womb they are capable of having faith.

But wouldnt it be unfair for a baby to end up in hell?

Also, how could a baby have faith if it cant even properly think or have a logical construct? I mean, we all know that babies are necessarily amoral.
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2/27/2013 1:37:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 1:32:03 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?

We don't know, any answer given could only be speculative. Some could go to heaven while others hell. Even inside the womb they are capable of having faith.

Wait what? No.
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2/27/2013 1:53:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.:

All are born into sin, even babies. The difference is that a baby hasn't developed the understanding of sin and its consequences yet. So, yes a baby would benefit from you killing it because it would never know about sin and therefore be responsible for it. But isn't murdering or killing a baby also be against Christian doctrine?

You are yet to even show any absurdities in Christianity.
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2/27/2013 1:56:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 9:58:05 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:56:33 AM, Angry_Bird wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

How interesting,
And where did you read "sin and you will go to hell"?

So then wouldn't it be the ultimate sacrifice?:

What is the sacrifice for? To receive eternal life? You can receive eternal life as a baby or grown. Never read that human sacrifice is the Christian doctrine.
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2/27/2013 1:58:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 10:13:51 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
And if original sin has got you caught up: it would be a favor to kill anyone who is, as of that moment, going to heaven.:

Nope. You deny them of doing God's will with there lives that you took from them and therefore you deny God's will.
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2/27/2013 2:00:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?:

If the baby is incapable of understanding things such as 'sin' then yes the baby goes to heaven.
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2/27/2013 2:18:07 PM
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At 2/27/2013 2:00:19 PM, Pennington wrote:
At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?:

If the baby is incapable of understanding things such as 'sin' then yes the baby goes to heaven.

So is it selfless to commit an act of infanticide so that your child is gaurunteed to go to heaven?
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2/27/2013 2:25:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/27/2013 2:18:07 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 2:00:19 PM, Pennington wrote:
At 2/27/2013 1:03:24 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 2/27/2013 11:32:04 AM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/27/2013 9:30:18 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
According to Christian doctrine, wouldn't it be in an infant's best interest if it was killed before it could get a chance to sin and go to hell? I know it's absurd, but so is the logic of Christianity.

The logic of Christianity is not absurd, your flawed understanding of Christianity is absurd.

If i kill a baby, does he/she go to hell, or heaven?:

If the baby is incapable of understanding things such as 'sin' then yes the baby goes to heaven.

So is it selfless to commit an act of infanticide so that your child is gaurunteed to go to heaven?

No it's called murder. God gave man free will to choose, how does it make sense to take the choice away before the child even knows who God is??