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3/13/2013 3:16:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Did you know what is the Russian's gift to christianity? It is Russian scientist Ivan Panin. Ivan Panin found the numeric system that covers the whole Bible. The system is so sophisticated that by using it, it is possible to even check transliteration of the hebrew names to corresponing greek names. He spent rest of his life, about 50 years, to study these numeric phenomena in the Holy Bible and produced a manuscript of about 43000 pages whereto he had carefully and thoughtfully written millions of figures. More about Ivan Panin can be found on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...

Good example of the numeric system that Ivan Panin found is the first sentence of the Holy Bible: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." This simple sentence contain seven hebrew words. Amount of letters in these words is divisible by seven. Amount of letters in the three first words "in the beginnig God created" is divisible by seven and of course the last of the sentence, too. Sum of letters in the fourth and fifth words is divisible by seven as well as amount of letters in the sixth and seventh word. Sum of letters of the three nouns "God", "heaven" and "earth" is divisible by seven. If we sum up values of the letters of those nouns we find a value that is divisible by seven. Value of verb "created" is divisible by seven. Sum of letters of the fourth (an article) and the preceding word is seven as well as sum of letters of the fourth and the following word. Value of the first, the midst and the last letter of the sentence is divisible by seven. And so forth. Ivan Panin found from the sentence 50 different numerical phenomena. You can read more about these phenomena on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...
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3/13/2013 3:18:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/13/2013 3:16:07 AM, AutumnLeaf wrote:
Did you know what is the Russian's gift to christianity? It is Russian scientist Ivan Panin. Ivan Panin found the numeric system that covers the whole Bible. The system is so sophisticated that by using it, it is possible to even check transliteration of the hebrew names to corresponing greek names. He spent rest of his life, about 50 years, to study these numeric phenomena in the Holy Bible and produced a manuscript of about 43000 pages whereto he had carefully and thoughtfully written millions of figures. More about Ivan Panin can be found on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...

Good example of the numeric system that Ivan Panin found is the first sentence of the Holy Bible: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." This simple sentence contain seven hebrew words. Amount of letters in these words is divisible by seven. Amount of letters in the three first words "in the beginnig God created" is divisible by seven and of course the last of the sentence, too. Sum of letters in the fourth and fifth words is divisible by seven as well as amount of letters in the sixth and seventh word. Sum of letters of the three nouns "God", "heaven" and "earth" is divisible by seven. If we sum up values of the letters of those nouns we find a value that is divisible by seven. Value of verb "created" is divisible by seven. Sum of letters of the fourth (an article) and the preceding word is seven as well as sum of letters of the fourth and the following word. Value of the first, the midst and the last letter of the sentence is divisible by seven. And so forth. Ivan Panin found from the sentence 50 different numerical phenomena. You can read more about these phenomena on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...

Very interesting!
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3/13/2013 3:39:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Russia's gift to Christianity is the Orthodox Christian Church of Russia.
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3/13/2013 4:39:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/13/2013 3:16:07 AM, AutumnLeaf wrote:
Did you know what is the Russian's gift to christianity? It is Russian scientist Ivan Panin. Ivan Panin found the numeric system that covers the whole Bible. The system is so sophisticated that by using it, it is possible to even check transliteration of the hebrew names to corresponing greek names. He spent rest of his life, about 50 years, to study these numeric phenomena in the Holy Bible and produced a manuscript of about 43000 pages whereto he had carefully and thoughtfully written millions of figures. More about Ivan Panin can be found on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...

Good example of the numeric system that Ivan Panin found is the first sentence of the Holy Bible: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." This simple sentence contain seven hebrew words. Amount of letters in these words is divisible by seven. Amount of letters in the three first words "in the beginnig God created" is divisible by seven and of course the last of the sentence, too. Sum of letters in the fourth and fifth words is divisible by seven as well as amount of letters in the sixth and seventh word. Sum of letters of the three nouns "God", "heaven" and "earth" is divisible by seven. If we sum up values of the letters of those nouns we find a value that is divisible by seven. Value of verb "created" is divisible by seven. Sum of letters of the fourth (an article) and the preceding word is seven as well as sum of letters of the fourth and the following word. Value of the first, the midst and the last letter of the sentence is divisible by seven. And so forth. Ivan Panin found from the sentence 50 different numerical phenomena. You can read more about these phenomena on page http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi...

First off, Mr Ivan Panin was by no means a scientist.

At a stretch, he could be reffered to as a mathematician. But a scientist, most certainly not.

Secondly, here is an excert from the wiki artivle on Panin.

"Critics of his work doubt the value of some of his findings and dismiss more evident numerical patterns as random chance. Panin's claims, that the existence of such statistical anomalies is proof of divine inspiration, are still sharply debated by skeptics of his work today. Panin used the edition of Westcott and Hort of the New Testament, as the basis for his work, but made selective use of alternative readings that those authors suggested. He even published his own version of the Greek text, claiming to have reconstructed the lost original version by his techniques; critics see this as circular reasoning, and state that it only shows that he was capable of producing patterns himself. Another criticism is that the same kind of numeric patterns can be found in any text."

While this by no means disproves his work, it does show the inconsitencies and critcisms of his work. And while your OP gushes on how the numerical system is a way of discerning the true words, the only argument that you can make for this is circular. Because the numerical system itself is based off of translations.
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