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3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.
2. a. Trashing the planet and it's inhabitants. Then it is easy to make people believe that God doesn't exist: The covert war against humanity
b. DARWINISM, and the belief we came out of the swamps through some ape.
c. Take over the main religions and weaken them with the likes of Billy Graham & Jesuits. If you read certain good books by religious people you can see what has been left out in most religious teachings. Eg any book by Catherine Ponder.
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed). While getting as many people addicted to Pharma drugs as possible. See: Drugs (suppress psychic ability) Psychiatry. At the last count (2006) about 1 million US kids were using Ritalin, and c.10 million adults, worldwide, are addicted to the Benzodiazepines. Also suppress anyone who is a good guide. Tim Leary spent 4 1/2 years in jail, and Shamanism is extinct or gone underground in Western societies.
e. Enforce the ludicrous belief that we are the only beings in the Universe. And suppress any knowledge of contact with any intelligent beings. "Unidentified" Flying Objects! The US Government has been dealing with aliens for decades, which is where they got their advanced mind control Tec and other hardware from. See: Aliens Michael and Stephanie Relfe
f. Enforce the use of man made Pharma medicine, which promotes the belief we are alone without effective medicine, as only one class of drug has cured disease--antibiotics. While suppressing herbs etc (see: Herbs for cancer) It wouldn't do to let people find out herbs like Cayenne Pepper cure heart disease, Garlic is more effective than any antibiotic, and Vitamin C is better than any drug anti-viral. It helps the belief if you put people through hell with cancer chemo drugs.
g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY
h. Keep all knowledge of the Internal reality secret. That is the doorway to Spiritual experience and knowledge, wouldn't want anyone to find that.

Learn the truth

http://whale.to...
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3/27/2013 11:52:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed).

Obviously the law has not stopped the flow of spiritual insights.
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3/27/2013 11:58:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:52:32 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed).

Obviously the law has not stopped the flow of spiritual insights.

Because they can't keep em all down!!
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3/27/2013 12:28:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.
2. a. Trashing the planet and it's inhabitants. Then it is easy to make people believe that God doesn't exist: The covert war against humanity
b. DARWINISM, and the belief we came out of the swamps through some ape.
c. Take over the main religions and weaken them with the likes of Billy Graham & Jesuits. If you read certain good books by religious people you can see what has been left out in most religious teachings. Eg any book by Catherine Ponder.
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed). While getting as many people addicted to Pharma drugs as possible. See: Drugs (suppress psychic ability) Psychiatry. At the last count (2006) about 1 million US kids were using Ritalin, and c.10 million adults, worldwide, are addicted to the Benzodiazepines. Also suppress anyone who is a good guide. Tim Leary spent 4 1/2 years in jail, and Shamanism is extinct or gone underground in Western societies.
e. Enforce the ludicrous belief that we are the only beings in the Universe. And suppress any knowledge of contact with any intelligent beings. "Unidentified" Flying Objects! The US Government has been dealing with aliens for decades, which is where they got their advanced mind control Tec and other hardware from. See: Aliens Michael and Stephanie Relfe
f. Enforce the use of man made Pharma medicine, which promotes the belief we are alone without effective medicine, as only one class of drug has cured disease--antibiotics. While suppressing herbs etc (see: Herbs for cancer) It wouldn't do to let people find out herbs like Cayenne Pepper cure heart disease, Garlic is more effective than any antibiotic, and Vitamin C is better than any drug anti-viral. It helps the belief if you put people through hell with cancer chemo drugs.
g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY
h. Keep all knowledge of the Internal reality secret. That is the doorway to Spiritual experience and knowledge, wouldn't want anyone to find that.

Learn the truth

http://whale.to...

A: See religion.
B: Sounds like a plan!
C: I will Ponder on this point for a bit.
D: I didn't know Heroin was a herb, that's my new thing I've learnt today.
E: See SETI program.
F: Yeah, antibiotics are the *only* method, for sure.
G: I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but the weather weapon technology was destroyed in a hurricane.
H: It's the destination that matters, not the path.

i: The imaginary number. This post is troll, just like yours.
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3/27/2013 1:01:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.
ummm...

The Abrahamic religions at least are pretty sexually repressive...
Ever hear of the Missionary position? It's like the most impractical arrangement possible :/ lol

Pretty sure enhancing sexual freedom is a step away from the dominant religions of the day, and more in line with the positions of more atheists than Religious people.

2. a. Trashing the planet and it's inhabitants. Then it is easy to make people believe that God doesn't exist: The covert war against humanity

the Atheist War against humanity... yeah.

b. DARWINISM, and the belief we came out of the swamps through some ape.

Yes, Coming to understand evolution definitely makes a lot of Religious people re-think what purpose their fairy tales serve.

c. Take over the main religions and weaken them with the likes of Billy Graham & Jesuits.
Dammit, you weren't supposed to figure it out...

General graham and the Atheist special-forces known as the Jesuits have long been on the front-line of the Atheist war against humanity :)

If you read certain good books by religious people you can see what has been left out in most religious teachings. Eg any book by Catherine Ponder.

d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed). While getting as many people addicted to Pharma drugs as possible. See: Drugs (suppress psychic ability) Psychiatry. At the last count (2006) about 1 million US kids were using Ritalin, and c.10 million adults, worldwide, are addicted to the Benzodiazepines. Also suppress anyone who is a good guide. Tim Leary spent 4 1/2 years in jail, and Shamanism is extinct or gone underground in Western societies.

Tim leary is Enemy #2, right behind Jesus.... and well, I think atheists Generally probably have more liberal stances on Drug policy than the religious (at least in the west)

e. Enforce the ludicrous belief that we are the only beings in the Universe.
I believe in Dog.

And suppress any knowledge of contact with any intelligent beings. "Unidentified" Flying Objects! The US Government has been dealing with aliens for decades, which is where they got their advanced mind control Tec and other hardware from. See: Aliens Michael and Stephanie Relfe
f.

Well, I wouldn't say it's only atheists who think the history channel's shows on Ancient Aliens seem like Bullsh*t :)
.. But, I can see how someone who buys the conspiracy theories of Religion would be potential suckers for other bull..

Enforce the use of man made Pharma medicine, which promotes the belief we are alone without effective medicine, as only one class of drug has cured disease--antibiotics. While suppressing herbs etc (see: Herbs for cancer) It wouldn't do to let people find out herbs like Cayenne Pepper cure heart disease, Garlic is more effective than any antibiotic, and Vitamin C is better than any drug anti-viral. It helps the belief if you put people through hell with cancer chemo drugs.

Yes, Doctors give cancer patients chemotherapy, Not to treat/suppress cancer.. But to make them suffer, so that they will become atheists.

g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY

You're a poe aren't you.. ? :)

h. Keep all knowledge of the Internal reality secret. That is the doorway to Spiritual experience and knowledge, wouldn't want anyone to find that.

Learn the truth

http://whale.to...
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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3/27/2013 1:01:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 12:28:24 PM, AlbinoBunny wrote:
C: I will Ponder on this point for a bit.

he he..

it was a Pondersome point :)
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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3/27/2013 7:16:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.
2. a. Trashing the planet and it's inhabitants. Then it is easy to make people believe that God doesn't exist: The covert war against humanity
b. DARWINISM, and the belief we came out of the swamps through some ape.
c. Take over the main religions and weaken them with the likes of Billy Graham & Jesuits. If you read certain good books by religious people you can see what has been left out in most religious teachings. Eg any book by Catherine Ponder.
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed). While getting as many people addicted to Pharma drugs as possible. See: Drugs (suppress psychic ability) Psychiatry. At the last count (2006) about 1 million US kids were using Ritalin, and c.10 million adults, worldwide, are addicted to the Benzodiazepines. Also suppress anyone who is a good guide. Tim Leary spent 4 1/2 years in jail, and Shamanism is extinct or gone underground in Western societies.
e. Enforce the ludicrous belief that we are the only beings in the Universe. And suppress any knowledge of contact with any intelligent beings. "Unidentified" Flying Objects! The US Government has been dealing with aliens for decades, which is where they got their advanced mind control Tec and other hardware from. See: Aliens Michael and Stephanie Relfe
f. Enforce the use of man made Pharma medicine, which promotes the belief we are alone without effective medicine, as only one class of drug has cured disease--antibiotics. While suppressing herbs etc (see: Herbs for cancer) It wouldn't do to let people find out herbs like Cayenne Pepper cure heart disease, Garlic is more effective than any antibiotic, and Vitamin C is better than any drug anti-viral. It helps the belief if you put people through hell with cancer chemo drugs.
g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY
h. Keep all knowledge of the Internal reality secret. That is the doorway to Spiritual experience and knowledge, wouldn't want anyone to find that.

Learn the truth

http://whale.to...

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9/25/2013 3:09:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?

Psychedelic mushrooms and DMT
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9/25/2013 4:01:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/25/2013 3:09:02 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?

Psychedelic mushrooms and DMT

Oh, you're a traditionalist.
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9/26/2013 1:27:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?

DMT, The so called spiritual molecule, Those who take it speak of a complete disassociation with reality, it's hallucination take instant effect, People claim to enter different worlds experiencing new colours and complex geometrical shapes, Not to mention the cases where they report back of speaking to higher intelligent beings.
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9/26/2013 1:47:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.
2. a. Trashing the planet and it's inhabitants. Then it is easy to make people believe that God doesn't exist: The covert war against humanity
b. DARWINISM, and the belief we came out of the swamps through some ape.
c. Take over the main religions and weaken them with the likes of Billy Graham & Jesuits. If you read certain good books by religious people you can see what has been left out in most religious teachings. Eg any book by Catherine Ponder.
d. Outlaw any herbs that can give spiritual insights like the psychedelics, while flooding the market with ones that don't (Dope Inc, Cocaine, heroin, speed). While getting as many people addicted to Pharma drugs as possible. See: Drugs (suppress psychic ability) Psychiatry. At the last count (2006) about 1 million US kids were using Ritalin, and c.10 million adults, worldwide, are addicted to the Benzodiazepines. Also suppress anyone who is a good guide. Tim Leary spent 4 1/2 years in jail, and Shamanism is extinct or gone underground in Western societies.
e. Enforce the ludicrous belief that we are the only beings in the Universe. And suppress any knowledge of contact with any intelligent beings. "Unidentified" Flying Objects! The US Government has been dealing with aliens for decades, which is where they got their advanced mind control Tec and other hardware from. See: Aliens Michael and Stephanie Relfe
f. Enforce the use of man made Pharma medicine, which promotes the belief we are alone without effective medicine, as only one class of drug has cured disease--antibiotics. While suppressing herbs etc (see: Herbs for cancer) It wouldn't do to let people find out herbs like Cayenne Pepper cure heart disease, Garlic is more effective than any antibiotic, and Vitamin C is better than any drug anti-viral. It helps the belief if you put people through hell with cancer chemo drugs.
g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY
h. Keep all knowledge of the Internal reality secret. That is the doorway to Spiritual experience and knowledge, wouldn't want anyone to find that.

Learn the truth

http://whale.to...

Atheism cannot be spread as you are insinuating. Atheism can only be abandoned. We are all born atheists because we have no belief in a God until we are exposed to the idea of God either by teaching, influence, etc. Moreover, even those who believe in "a God" remain atheists when it comes to all other Gods.
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9/26/2013 2:11:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/26/2013 1:27:22 PM, johnlubba wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?


DMT, The so called spiritual molecule, Those who take it speak of a complete disassociation with reality, it's hallucination take instant effect, People claim to enter different worlds experiencing new colours and complex geometrical shapes, Not to mention the cases where they report back of speaking to higher intelligent beings.

You may confuse illusions of having insights with having actual insights. A real insight is an understanding, and an understanding can be communicated. So if a person took drugs and then wrote a peer-reviewed article on "The problem of free will resolved" or something like that, then it would be good evidence that actual insights being gained.

It's not impossible. Some inventors claim to have gotten solutions in a drug haze. That seems to me to be easier, a result of random thinking.
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9/27/2013 12:14:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 11:40:47 AM, Anti-atheist wrote:
1. Suppressing sexuality: This is the main way to suppress spirituality.

You've argued for suppressing sexuality in your debate with defool
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g. Keep all of your high tec stuff secret eg Time travel Mind control machines WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY

You've argued that time travel is impossible in your debate with RT
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9/27/2013 12:51:29 PM
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At 9/26/2013 2:11:39 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
At 9/26/2013 1:27:22 PM, johnlubba wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?


DMT, The so called spiritual molecule, Those who take it speak of a complete disassociation with reality, it's hallucination take instant effect, People claim to enter different worlds experiencing new colours and complex geometrical shapes, Not to mention the cases where they report back of speaking to higher intelligent beings.

You may confuse illusions of having insights with having actual insights. A real insight is an understanding, and an understanding can be communicated. So if a person took drugs and then wrote a peer-reviewed article on "The problem of free will resolved" or something like that, then it would be good evidence that actual insights being gained.

It's not impossible. Some inventors claim to have gotten solutions in a drug haze. That seems to me to be easier, a result of random thinking.

It still takes you to another realm which nearly all those who experience DMT claim, even those who are under medical supervision and in the care of professionals who are supervising there dosage and intake, they too also claim to experience a total disassociation with reality and experience colurs and geometrical shapes not of this world and the most perculiar thing is how many report back of talking to higher intelligent beings.

You can brush it aside as mere hallucinations, but the drug itself has the power to take those who have had an experience with it, to what is called a completely different world. a complete disassociation with the reality we know and experience. and the reason why you haven't heard of many people write Beethoven symphony's whilst on DMT, is because the drug is strictly outlawed and even carries a death penalty is some countries, it is extremely hard to get hold of, therefore not many people have a chance.
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9/27/2013 1:31:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/26/2013 2:11:39 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
You may confuse illusions of having insights with having actual insights. A real insight is an understanding, and an understanding can be communicated. So if a person took drugs and then wrote a peer-reviewed article on "The problem of free will resolved" or something like that, then it would be good evidence that actual insights being gained.

It's not impossible. Some inventors claim to have gotten solutions in a drug haze. That seems to me to be easier, a result of random thinking.

While drug use without a doubt produces an awful lot of guff, I don't think it at all unreasonable to say it can be a great aid in finding insight. Much of the understanding that certain drugs can provide is simply a product of the fact they alter perception and thought processes so dramatically. And random thinking - i.e. thinking not constrained by the normal rules and patterns of 'sober' thought - can be a very, very powerful tool indeed.

That's not a loving eulogy to drugs, by the way. Just an observation.
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9/30/2013 11:43:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/27/2013 1:31:22 PM, Graincruncher wrote:
At 9/26/2013 2:11:39 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
You may confuse illusions of having insights with having actual insights. A real insight is an understanding, and an understanding can be communicated. So if a person took drugs and then wrote a peer-reviewed article on "The problem of free will resolved" or something like that, then it would be good evidence that actual insights being gained.

It's not impossible. Some inventors claim to have gotten solutions in a drug haze. That seems to me to be easier, a result of random thinking.

While drug use without a doubt produces an awful lot of guff, I don't think it at all unreasonable to say it can be a great aid in finding insight. Much of the understanding that certain drugs can provide is simply a product of the fact they alter perception and thought processes so dramatically. And random thinking - i.e. thinking not constrained by the normal rules and patterns of 'sober' thought - can be a very, very powerful tool indeed.

That's not a loving eulogy to drugs, by the way. Just an observation.

I agreed it is possible. What I'm questioning is the evidence that it in fact works. If the evidence is only that users believed they achieved insights, that's not nearly as good as a study that showed that drug users had some set of problems before using the drug and that afterwards they soon successfully resolved the problems due to the insights obtained. People have told me how wonderful alcohol is in helping them deal with life's problems. It's reasonable to be skeptical.

The theory that "disordered" thinking may be helpful to creative people has some support. 'A study of more than 700,000 adults showed that those who scored top grades at school were four times more likely to develop bipolar disorder than those with average grades.' http://www.independent.co.uk... The article goes on to claim a link between bipolar disorder and literary and artistic genius. Apparently it's not so helpful to scientists and the like.
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9/30/2013 11:48:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/30/2013 11:43:48 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
I agreed it is possible. What I'm questioning is the evidence that it in fact works. If the evidence is only that users believed they achieved insights, that's not nearly as good as a study that showed that drug users had some set of problems before using the drug and that afterwards they soon successfully resolved the problems due to the insights obtained. People have told me how wonderful alcohol is in helping them deal with life's problems. It's reasonable to be skeptical.

Ah, I think the confusion here is the directedness of the insights; something can reliably provide insight, without ever providing a specific insight. I would say it is not so much insight that can potentially be gained, but a perspective from which insight may be more easily and usefully had.

The theory that "disordered" thinking may be helpful to creative people has some support. 'A study of more than 700,000 adults showed that those who scored top grades at school were four times more likely to develop bipolar disorder than those with average grades.' http://www.independent.co.uk... The article goes on to claim a link between bipolar disorder and literary and artistic genius. Apparently it's not so helpful to scientists and the like.

As someone with bipolar disorder, I'm not going to dispute those findings. I also agree that it can be a hindrance, but only to the same degree that looking through reams and reams of data would be to creative writing or painting. But, if looked at outside of the ordered context, perhaps not.
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9/30/2013 12:51:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/30/2013 11:48:58 AM, Graincruncher wrote:
Ah, I think the confusion here is the directedness of the insights; something can reliably provide insight, without ever providing a specific insight. I would say it is not so much insight that can potentially be gained, but a perspective from which insight may be more easily and usefully had.

If it provides positive insights, there has to be some way to measure it. For example, maybe self-assessed happiness or lack of anxiety. But claiming a benefit that cannot be observed or measured is problematic. Again, I point to people who claim that binge drinking is good for them. It needs some evidence other than the person's opinion.

As someone with bipolar disorder, I'm not going to dispute those findings. I also agree that it can be a hindrance, but only to the same degree that looking through reams and reams of data would be to creative writing or painting. But, if looked at outside of the ordered context, perhaps not.

I've had experience working with extreme bipolar people on two occasions. They were really, really smart and nearly impossible to work with. They were extremely self centered. If you recognize that you have the disorder, then you probably don't have too bad a problem. The severe cases cannot recognize their problem.

One study said that 90% of the population has some kind of mental disability that would benefit from treatment. I used to think that was ridiculous. Now I don't doubt it.
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9/30/2013 1:02:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/30/2013 12:51:48 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
If it provides positive insights, there has to be some way to measure it.

Is this not loading the question, slightly? Not all insights are positive.

For example, maybe self-assessed happiness or lack of anxiety. But claiming a benefit that cannot be observed or measured is problematic. Again, I point to people who claim that binge drinking is good for them. It needs some evidence other than the person's opinion.

My initial reaction was to agree with this, but on reflection I am less sure. If the insight is about themselves, what other evidence could they offer than their opinion?

I've had experience working with extreme bipolar people on two occasions. They were really, really smart and nearly impossible to work with. They were extremely self centered. If you recognize that you have the disorder, then you probably don't have too bad a problem. The severe cases cannot recognize their problem.

I wouldn't describe myself as 'extreme' at all. Moderate at most. However, I suspect that most people who know me well enough would agree with at least the impossible to work with part of what you say. I'm also profoundly introspective to the point of self-centred, but it has take years to even realise it. I'm not a severe case by any means (nor do I think that the study you quoted means that all bipolar people show such an academic correspondence or that academic success directly correlates with actual intelligence), but what you say certainly sounds familiar. Although I could be catastrophically wrong and I'm a severe case who doesn't realise it.

One study said that 90% of the population has some kind of mental disability that would benefit from treatment. I used to think that was ridiculous. Now I don't doubt it.

Hah! Yes. I whole-heartedly agree. That said, I might be working from a self-selecting sample. Either way, mental illness (for the first time in my life I have made a face at the word 'disability' - oh how short I fall of my liberal ideals) certainly seems far more prevalent than most people are willing to accept, let alone dedicate the funds to deal with.
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10/2/2013 3:17:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 9/26/2013 1:27:22 PM, johnlubba wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:13:18 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
What drug do you recommend to get spiritual insights?


DMT, The so called spiritual molecule, Those who take it speak of a complete disassociation with reality, it's hallucination take instant effect, People claim to enter different worlds experiencing new colours and complex geometrical shapes, Not to mention the cases where they report back of speaking to higher intelligent beings.

We were created as wavelengths of energy that has to be processed according to God's plans to give us defined worlds to experience as visions and dreams. Hallucineric drugs will give a man different worlds ( visions and dreams ) to experience during this age.

In the next age, God has already planned and created an eternity of different worlds for His people in their new flesh to experience as real. I like to call these new experiences make-believe worlds because each experience we have will be different than the next ones in our unique visions and dreams.