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4/2/2013 5:27:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
(Beware! This topic has many grammatically errors. I'm apologizing. Im not perfect in English)

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The Bible says Jesus was crucified to save us from our sins. Do you think its fine, Instead of Apologizing to God (the father)? "1 Corinthians (8:5-6): "to us there is one God, the Father, of whom
are all things... and one Lord,
Jesus Christ, through whom are all things."

"You heard that I said to you, "I go away,
and I will come to you." If you loved Me, you
would have rejoiced, because I go to the
Father; for the Father is greater than
I,'" (John 14:28).

If God really care with infidels, then why there is Crucifixion to save us from our sins? Is apologizing to God Unneccessary? So then, Islam is the TRUE RELIGION. Why?

Sura At-Tawbah (9:5)

And when the sacred months have passed,
then kill the polytheists (in short, infidels/nonmuslims) wherever you find
them and capture them and besiege them and
sit in wait for them at every place of ambush.
But if they should repent, establish prayer,
and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


It is said that Jesus is God"s son, yet it is
also said that Jesus is God. How can one
being be both the father and son of itself.
And how did God have a human son, or a
son that could be seen by humans and
interact with humans?
So it means there are many Christian Gods. But the Bible tells that there is ONLY ONE GOD:

Please note that the King James Version
(used here) designates the Hebrew name
Jehovah (or Yahweh) with "LORD" spelled
with all letters capitalized; Adonai, meaning
"Lord" or "Master," is designated by "Lord;"
and "Elohim," is translated as "God." Thus, in Deut. 4:35, for example, the phrase "the
LORD he is God," would be literally
translated, "Jehovah, he is Elohim." (In
those instances were Adonai is used as a
compound with Jehovah, the latter term is
spelled GOD, so that the compound name "Lord GOD" designates the Hebrew, "Adonai

"2 Samuel 7:22
How great you are, Sovereign LORD! There is no one like you, and
there is no God but you, as we have
heard with our own ears.

"Deuteronomy 4:35,39 " Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he
is God in heaven above, and upon the earth
beneath: there is none else.

"Deuteronomy 6:4 " Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he
encountered understood this text.]

"Deuteronomy32:39 " See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal:
neither is there any that can deliver out of
my hand.

"1 Kings 8:60 " That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

"2 KINGS 5:15 " And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and
came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

"2 Kings 19:15 " And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of
Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

"1 Chronicles 17:20 " O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

"Nehemiah 9:6 " Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the
earth, and all things that are therein, the
seas, and all that is therein, and thou
preservest them all; and the host of heaven
worshippeth thee.

"Psalm 18:31 " For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

"Psalm 86:10 " For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

"Isaiah 37:16,20 " O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now
therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his
hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may
know that thou art the LORD, even thou

"Isaiah43:10,11 " Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have
chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

"Isaiah44:6,8 " Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee
from that time, and have declared it? ye are
even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me?
yea, there is no God; I know not any.

"Isaiah 45:21 " Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together:
who hath declared this from ancient time:
who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

"Isaiah 46:9 " For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

"Hosea 13:4 " Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

"Joel 2:27 " And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

"Zechariah 14:9 " And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall
there be one Lord, and his name one.

"Mark 12:29-34 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and
with all thy mind, and with all thy strength:
this is the first commandment. And the
second is like, namely this, thou shalt love
thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other
commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the
understanding, and with all the soul, and with
all the strength, and to love his neighbor as
himself, is more than all whole burnt
offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw
that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of
God. And no man after that durst ask him
any question.

"John 17:3 " And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

"Romans 3:30 " Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith,
and uncircumcision through faith.

"1 Corinthians 8:4-6 " As concerning therefore the eating of those things that
are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods,
whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus
Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

"Galatians 3:20 " Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

"Ephesians 4:6 " One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

"1 Timothy 1:17 " Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

"1 Timothy 2:5 " For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

"James 2:19 " Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and t
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4/2/2013 5:30:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"James 2:19 " Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Then, the Bible says there is only ONE GOD, But there are Bible verses tell that there are MANY GODS.

1 Corinthians 8:5

For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"),

Psalm 135:5

I know that the LORD is great, that our Lord is greater than all gods.

All Abrahamic Religions Claim that GOD IS NOT A HUMAN. But again, a Bible verse tells that God is human.

Genesis 1:26

Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Modern day Christian doctrine rests upon the premise that God preserved the Bible in an absolute infallible and pure state, in order that all men should know the (historical) truth and believe in the Son of God. Regardless of the truth and the facts, their dogmatic position is that if God permitted the Bible to have been altered, then the present day church could
not be genuine. They therefore promote the dogmatic presumption that the Christian Church must be maintained in order for man to be saved, and they reason that God would protect and not allow the written word of the scriptures to
be corrupted. Yet, the Bible itself declares this position by the Church to be fatally flawed.

"How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the Lord is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie" ( Jeremiah 8:8 )

An important truth is contained in the Epistle of Peter to James where it is stated: "Hear me, brethren and fellow- servants. If we should give the books to all
indiscriminately, and they should be corrupted by any daring men, or be perverted by interpretations, as you have heard that some have already done, it will remain even for those who really seek the truth, always to wander in error. Wherefore it is better that they should be with us, and that we should communicate them with all the fore- mentioned care to those who wish to live piously, and to save others."

Gospel of Basilides

The Gospel of Basilides is a "lost" text from the New Testament apocrypha by Basilides, mentioned by Origen, [1]Jerome, Ambrose,[2]Philip of Side, and the Venerable Bede.[3] It was composed in Egypt around
120 to 140 AD. In all likelihood,
this gospel was compiled of canonical gospels, the text being shortened and altered to suit
Basilides's Gnostic tenets, a diatessaron. or harmony, on Gnostic (Docetic) lines.[4]

One of the features of the
Gospel of Basilides is it objected
to the reality of the passion i.e. the suffering of Jesus Christ
leading up to and including the
crucifixion. His works were
rejected by later Christians as heretical and the text is classed as gnostic for it opposes the death of Jesus on the cross and
his divinity as accorded by
mainstream Christianity. To
Basilides, Christ seemed to men
to be a man and to have
performed miracles. It was not however, Christ, who suffered on
the cross but Simon of Cyrene who was constrained to carry the
cross and was mistakenly
crucified instead of Christ. Simon
having received Jesus's form,
Jesus returned Simon's and thus
stood by whilst Simon was crucified and Jesus returned to
God his father (Irenaeus, Adv.
Char., 1, xxiv). According to some apocrypha it was Judas who was thus substituted, not Simon the
Cyrenean. This is known as the
semblance theory in theological

It has similarities to the Islamic
belief of Jesus being raised to
heaven alive and not himself
being crucified as stated in the

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have
killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary,
the messenger of Allah ." And they did not
kill him, nor did they crucify him; but
[another] was made to resemble him to them.
And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it
except the following of assumption. And they
did not kill him, for certain. (Quran 4:157)


Then, what if the situation is FLIPPED? That Jesus is not the Son of God? Remember that the Trinity has 3, remember, T H R E E divine persons; Jesus, The Father, and The Holy Spirit like a Dove.

Matthew 3:16-17

And when Jesus was baptized, immediately
he went up from the water, and behold, the
heavens were opened to him, and he saw the
Spirit of God descending like a dove and
coming to rest on him; and behold, a voice
from heaven said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."

".......and he saw the SPIRIT OF GOD DESCENDING LIKE A DOVE...."This is my BELOVED SON...." ???

But the Bible prove that there is only 2 Divine persons. Then the Trinity is FALSE. Is this mean that Christianity is a FALSE Religion nor the Bible is CORRUPTED?


How Can God Have a Son if GOD IS NOT A HUMAN? Simple, Jesus is NOT THE SON OF GOD. God is ALONE. Neither Begets nor is born. Islam accepts the Virgin birth of Jesus. But it doesn't mean that God is the father of jesus. I can accept that God is the father of jesus if God commit an Adultery to Virgin Mary. But like what I said, God is not a Human. God is THE MOST MIRACULOUS.

Quran 112:3

He neither begets nor is born,

This verse also prove that God is Alone.

So, Christianity is NOT THE TRUE RELIGION and the Bible is DEFINITELY CORRUPTED.
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4/9/2013 2:58:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The bible is a human concept. I could write a book about god, spread the world and it would become a religion. Religious scriptures are fables not fact. We cannot base our lives around something that isn't true.There is no proof for god, at all (scriptures are NOT fact), and religion has certainly caused more harm than good. Lets support fact not fiction.
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4/10/2013 1:07:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/2/2013 5:27:58 PM, muizz99 wrote:
The Bible says Jesus was crucified to save us from our sins.
The bible is a load of 100% man made self-contradicting propaganda used by certain Cult ideologies!

e.g. Deut. 24:16 & Ezek. 18:20 refute the claim that ANY ONE else can substitute for the Story book alleged Sins of another!

xtianity is a fabricated lie condemned even by its own preferred Story book!

Your vindicated mentor, 50 nearly 51 year successful Cult busting personal successful literal Saviour, moi!
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4/10/2013 8:32:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/9/2013 2:30:10 PM, MaryCantHearYou wrote:
This is the craziest stuff i've heard even crazier than jehovah witnesses

^ ^ ^ ^ Most intelligent comment on this thread so far
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."